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January 14, 2010 8:45:42 PM

Hey all ive just finished my pc build,

MOBO - Asus P5N-E Sli
CPU -Pentium Duel Core E5200 2.5ghz @ 2.8
Stock Cooler
PSU- 680 watt G7 Extreme PSU
HDD1 - 80Gb for OS Windows 7 proffesional 64bit
HDD2 -250Gb Storage
GPU - 2x 9600gso 385MB in SLI
RAM - 4gb of OCZ 800mhz Ram

i will upload some pictures as i its VERY messy for cable management and would like sum tips ! :) , also the GPU,s are HOT even idle like 70 degrees plus. i have read tho the 9600gso can handle high temps.

thanks

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a b ) Power supply
January 14, 2010 9:24:51 PM

Its hard to tell you exactly what to do with your cable management etc. but a good place to start is to get some zip-ties and think about how air should be flowing through your case. Air should generally flow in the front intake, over the HDs and then back, through the GPUs and over the RAM and CPU, and out the back through the rear vent. Remember the goal of cable management is to give air as free a path through your case and over the required components as possible, so you want to see if you can find ways to tuck your cables out of the way and zip-tie them there. It is also good to try and find creative ways to route your cables out of the way of your airflow(such as behind the motherboard tray, etc). See what you can do and post some pics and maybe we can help a little more.
a b ) Power supply
January 14, 2010 9:39:21 PM

Hard to tell how much room you have between the mobo and the side panel it sits against. See if you can re-route the cables in the HDD cage to the space between the cage and the mobo side panel - tuck-em in there.See if you can move the slack in the 24-pin cable up, towards the top. If you do not have DVD/CD writer in the top 5.25" bay, tuck the 24-pin cable in there (secure with ties after you like your work.

When you've hidden the excess cable to allow straight-thru airflow from the bottom front fan, start using nylon ties or bread wrapper ties to hold the cables in place and out of the way.

You should be able to re-route the front panel connectors behind the HDD cage, too, so they're not just scattered randomly in the case.

Add a 120mm exhaust fan (or some other size that fits) to that grill above your GPUs.
a c 154 ) Power supply
January 14, 2010 10:05:58 PM

Here's some links for you....

Sleeving - http://www.frozencpu.com/products/3726/slv-25/Ultra_Blu...

Heatshrink - http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1845/ele-196/14_Blue_...

Saddles - http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8045/tiw-110/ModSmart...

Tie Wraps - http://www.frozencpu.com/products/3792/tiw-07/7_Blue_Ti...

Tools - http://www.frozencpu.com/products/3835/too-05/Dual_Ende...
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/3836/too-07/FrozenCPU...

I sleeve all the PSU wires, USB cables, SATA cables, fan cables using the tools when necessary to remove connector ends and then put them back on after sleeving.
January 14, 2010 10:08:48 PM

thanks for the feedback and the links (jack), i was after those sleeve type things, makes it look cool aswell haha, i will took everything away tommorow morning and upload some new pics :)  !
a c 157 ) Power supply
January 14, 2010 10:11:13 PM

It looks to me like your case does not have good airflow capabilities.

Open up the case and direct a house fan at the innards. If that results in much improved temperatures, then you have a case cooling problem.

As stated above:

1) tuck the cables out of the airflow as much as possible.
2) A rear exhaust fan will also help airflow.
3) it looks like the front fan is smaller than the grille in front of it. A larger fan will push more air.
4) At the expense of more noise, faster rotating fans will push more air.

If all else fails, a better cooling case is not that expensive.
a b ) Power supply
January 14, 2010 10:56:14 PM

^Yes, get a case that gets good cable management behind the motherboard. The HAf 932 has about an 1-2'' of space behind the motherboard to keep wires out of the way completely. You can just see the heads of the wires where they connect to the motherboard or components. Less interference with your aircurrent, the better the airflow.
a c 144 ) Power supply
January 15, 2010 6:16:16 AM

treefrog07 said:
start using nylon ties or bread wrapper ties to hold the cables in place and out of the way.

Use nylon cable ties. I know the bread wrapper ties are free, but I like to minimize the amount of metal I need to put into a case.
January 15, 2010 2:00:45 PM

Done as much as i can with tie Wraps and that wasnt much, as my graphics card are both use molex to 6 pin so thats 4 molex cables i cant do anything with, the other cables are out of the way though at the top between the PSU and Cd-drive, looks like im gonna have to get some of that sleevin so it all a bit neater, also im gonna order a exhaust fan for the back, other then that once i get some money i think im gonna have to get a new case cus the "xblade" one im using is steel and from what ive read the aluminim ones are alot cooler my computer been on for about .... 10mins and my gpus are already at like 50 - 65 degrees idle :( .... is that too hot for 9600gso i have read they are quite hot somewhere though.
a c 243 ) Power supply
January 15, 2010 2:26:01 PM

adamomatic19 said:
as my graphics card are both use molex to 6 pin so thats 4 molex cables

Your 680 watt psu has no hardwired 6 pin pcie connectors ?
a b ) Power supply
January 15, 2010 2:54:08 PM

Man- no 6pin PCI connectors on a 680W PSU is rough.
a c 157 ) Power supply
January 15, 2010 4:14:57 PM

adamomatic19 said:
Done as much as i can with tie Wraps and that wasnt much, as my graphics card are both use molex to 6 pin so thats 4 molex cables i cant do anything with, the other cables are out of the way though at the top between the PSU and Cd-drive, looks like im gonna have to get some of that sleevin so it all a bit neater, also im gonna order a exhaust fan for the back, other then that once i get some money i think im gonna have to get a new case cus the "xblade" one im using is steel and from what ive read the aluminim ones are alot cooler my computer been on for about .... 10mins and my gpus are already at like 50 - 65 degrees idle :( .... is that too hot for 9600gso i have read they are quite hot somewhere though.


You can get sleeved molex to 6-pin adapters for not much:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU's, especially older ones run hot. But, they are designed to do so. Don't worry about it unless you get artifacts or other symptoms of gpu overheating.
January 15, 2010 4:18:06 PM

im a bit concered as im not even playing a game and my GPU 1 reports 69degrees and GPu 2 is on 85degrees !!! thats just IDLE !! when im on games it hits 105ish well about 90 but sumtimes goes over 100 :( 
a c 157 ) Power supply
January 15, 2010 4:48:02 PM

adamomatic19 said:
im a bit concered as im not even playing a game and my GPU 1 reports 69degrees and GPu 2 is on 85degrees !!! thats just IDLE !! when im on games it hits 105ish well about 90 but sumtimes goes over 100 :( 


That is hot, about the limit of the cards. If you are not having adverse symptoms, credit the quality of the XFX cards.

The fact that one gpu si much hotter, tells me that you have a case cooling problem. One gpu is heating up the other(and the cpu)
Your gpu cards are a single slot type where the hot gpu air is dumped into the case, counting on the case to get rid of it. That is why dual slot gpu coolers are preferred, because they send the hot air directly out the back of the case.

You really should have a better cooling case. I would suggest the Antec illusion case which currently has free shipping(a $20 value)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

In the mean time, take the side off your case. If you can, direct a house fan at the innards, and I expect to see your temps drop significantly.
January 15, 2010 5:09:34 PM

innards ??? .. the grpahic cards ect ?
a b ) Power supply
January 15, 2010 5:21:34 PM

Innards = whatever you have inside the case ;-)
a b ) Power supply
January 15, 2010 6:43:51 PM

Well i'd change your case Asap firstly
-If you cant then try replacing the fans you currently have with ones with higher cfm and rpm for more airflow. Next thing is either seal the bottom grill of the videocard or put a PCI-slot cooling fan there because some air goes out the back grill but some gets out through the bottom grill and stays inside the case which isn't good.
January 16, 2010 8:48:16 AM

i will get a better case when i have the money, but for now i will just have to run the house fan into the g-card area for the time beein :( , aslong the cards stay below 90~ im happy as anything over that scares me lol

thanks for all the comments btw people !!
a b ) Power supply
January 16, 2010 2:05:43 PM

^For me anything over 70C on my videocard scares me even though i have one of the really hotter running GPU's 8800GTS w/ factory overclock.
Hotter Hardware=Shorter Life :) 
a c 157 ) Power supply
January 16, 2010 2:16:46 PM

adamomatic19 said:
i will get a better case when i have the money, but for now i will just have to run the house fan into the g-card area for the time beein :( , aslong the cards stay below 90~ im happy as anything over that scares me lol

thanks for all the comments btw people !!


What are your temps before/after using the house fan? Was there significant help?
January 16, 2010 7:40:57 PM

Before house fan GPU 1 = 70 degrees GPU 2 = atleast 80 (idle)

now with house fan GPU 1 = 63 degrees GPU 2 = 69 degrees,

quite a bit drop tbh but still hot i assume :(  ... and since they are idle
a b ) Power supply
January 16, 2010 8:12:56 PM

i'd expect a much larger drop from a house fan...is it powerful?
January 16, 2010 8:50:08 PM

its a smallish one, a little desk fan
a b ) Power supply
January 18, 2010 1:28:56 PM

Yeah- thats still a little warm at idle... especially with a house fan on them... I guess the 9600 GSO' are known for running hot though. Clearly better air flow in your case DOES make a difference though.
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