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October 29, 2009 5:22:39 PM

Hey everyone! here is the form:

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: would like to purchase parts next couple weeks, ill wait a month max. range is < $800 including monitor and keyboard

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: AVCHD (1080i video editing), modern gaming (crysis @med-high settings), internet, music, movies...

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: i need everything XD

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: no preference at this point, i hear a lot of good things about newegg, so i chose them to show my product list below.

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: the US of A

PARTS PREFERENCES: I dont know what brand would be best fore me (amd/intel). i want to be able to upgrade to better parts in the future, so good motherboard is important. i would like a monitor over 20" and a quiet keyboard with media keys.

OVERCLOCKING: im all for overclocking. i dont know how to do it yet, but bring it on!! i would like to add a second GPU of whatever i chose now to run in sli or crossfire down the road.

MONITOR RESOLUTION:1680x1050, 1920x1080, 1920x1200)
i currently use a 15.4" laptop with a 1680x1050 screen. its to small for me. i use windows 7 on it and turn up the dpi of text to medium in order to make it usable. i dont know what res for what size would fit in my budget well.


ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: pc case cannot have glossy plastic on it. i want a flat black color with good build and cooling qualities. (i woulding mind an led fan though, haha)
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EDIT***Updated with suggestions to Current build.

Antec Two Hundred Black ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail $54.95 -$10.00 Instant=$44.95
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MB + CPU COMBO:
ASUS M4A79XTD EVO AM3 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
AMD Phenom II X3 720 2.8GHz Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Black Processor Model HDZ720WFGIBOX -
Combo Discount: -$27.00
Combo Price: $211.99
$10.00 Mail-In Rebate Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...


G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL7D-4GBRH - Retail $89.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU + GPU COMBO:
Antec TruePower New TP-750 750W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.3 / EPS12V V2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE ... - Retail
SAPPHIRE 100283L Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
Combo Discount: -$40.00
Combo Price: $234.94
$20.00 Mail-In Rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...


SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive -- $54.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


SAMSUNG CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S223C - OEM -- $25.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Acer H213H bmid Black 21.5" 5ms HDMI Full HD 1080P Widescreen 16:9 LCD Monitor - Retail
$199.99 -$50.00 Instant =$149.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



Thanks shortstuff_mt !! everything still open to suggestions!!
October 29, 2009 7:59:58 PM

All your links are broken. It's pretty hard to put together a build that does all that you are wanting to do and come in under $800. You'll want a quad core for HD video editing. You also need a good GPU for Crysis. Wanting to leave the Crossfire option open is a good idea, but raises the price of the motherboard and PSU. Your expectations exceed your budget. Here's a build that goes slightly over budget, but would accomplish what you want:

Antec Two Hundred Black ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $44.95

AMD Athlon II X4 620 Propus 2.6GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS M4A79XTD EVO AM3 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $193.99 - $10.00 MIR (CPU + motherboard)

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-10600CL9D-4GBNT - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $69.99

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $54.99

POWERCOLOR AX5750 1GBD5-PDH Radeon HD 5750 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $129.99

SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA CD/DVD Burner - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $25.99

Acer H213H bmid Black 21.5" 5ms HDMI Full HD 1080P Widescreen 16:9 LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 ACM 20000:1 Built-in Speakers - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $139.99 (With promo code EMCMLNX44)

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Antec TruePower New TP-650 650W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.3 / EPS12V V2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $196.94 (OS + PSU combo)

Total - $856.83 - $10.00 MIR
October 29, 2009 8:51:27 PM

wow thanks for the reply. i like the case that you recomended. ive also decided to go for the monitor too. a budget friendly thing id like to mention is that i already have windows 7 x64 thanks to msdnaa!!! so that nixes a big chunk out.

couple questions about your suggestions though:

1. would the 5750 be a better solution that my linked 4890 or 5770? i want to run 2 in crossfire in the future.

2. the dvd burner you mentioned was oem, isnt that not for building as it doesnt come with cables?

3. the ram you suggested has pretty high timings, is the ram i linked to better value?

4. the cpu you listed only has 512k L2 cache, isnt that bad? its also an athlon, isnt that also the previous generation of cpu behind the phenom? would the x3 core phenom II i have linked be a better cpu for overclocking?

5. regarding the motherboard, what is the difference between am2 and am3. which one do i want for future performance upgrades?
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October 29, 2009 9:00:06 PM

OEM optical drives are fine because your motherboard will come with at least two SATA cables.

Yes, the 5850 is obviously the better GPU. Good luck finding one in stock, though. It also completely destroys your budget. The 5770 will game pretty good at 1920x1080.

The RAM you picked isn't compatible with your motherboard. The motherboard requires DDR3 RAM. I picked the RAM I picked to try to stay close to your budget. This RAM is CAS 7, but costs $20 more.

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL7D-4GBRH - Retail $89.99

The Athlon II X2, X3, and X4 chips are brand new. You should read the latest benchmarks on them.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=363...

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=366...

AM3 is the latest socket and what you should be looking for in a new build. AM3 boards require DDR3 RAM.
October 29, 2009 9:04:56 PM

so building an am3 board is my best bet if i want to upgrade in the future? would a p55 intel board and an i5 be an option for my budget?
October 29, 2009 9:08:57 PM

Getting an i5 build with a monitor under $800 is pretty difficult without cutting more corners than I'm willing to cut. Trying to make sure the system is Crossfire ready makes it even harder to squeeze it into an $800 budget.
October 29, 2009 9:32:29 PM

etragedy said:
so building an am3 board is my best bet if i want to upgrade in the future? would a p55 intel board and an i5 be an option for my budget?

Having done a lot of research on a new AM3 vs i5 build lately, I'd have to agree with shortstuff_mt here.

That ASUS M4A79XTD EVO mobo seems like a bit of an overkill, though. ASUS M4A78T-E should do everything you need and save you some money. See for more info about this board. BTW, I found that if I bought everything from ZipZoomFly, I could save quite a bit vs. NewEgg.
October 29, 2009 9:35:45 PM

lok said:
That ASUS M4A79XTD EVO mobo seems like a bit of an overkill, though. ASUS M4A78T-E should do everything you need and save you some money.

How do you figure? The EVO is actually $10 cheaper than the M4A78T-E. :) 
October 29, 2009 9:41:42 PM

alright, thank you guys for your help. im fine going with amd, as they will probably continue to offer the best performance for price ratio.

UPDATED OP WITH CURRENT BUILD!! im @ $849.88 without MIR (dont want to count on those anyway) you guys see any place worth cutting a corner?

im starting to get excited about this. :D 
October 29, 2009 9:52:50 PM

Don't forget to use the combo deal for the CPU and motherboard you picked.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

The OCZ 600W PSU doesn't have enough power connectors to power crossfire 5770's without using adapters. This PSU + GPU combo deal gives you a 750W PSU for $5 more.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

The Samsung F3 500GB drive is faster than the 750GB WD Black drive and saves you $15 if you don't need 750GB of storage.
October 29, 2009 10:15:24 PM

thanks for pointing out the Combo Deals and catching PSU! what makes the Samsung faster might i ask? Because the WD has more cache at same speed.

Current Subtotal: $812.84

Anything else you guys see? im ordering it all at once from newegg. is there some sort of deal i should be aware of to save some money with this huge order?
October 29, 2009 10:36:39 PM

i cam up with a couple questions.

Is the motherboard i have listed going to allow for overclocking of CPU/GPU? or is overclocking even an option with this setup al all?and with a 5770's in crossfire, the motherboard says it only has 1 x16 pcie, is 2x x8 PCIe good enough?

is this case going to cool well? is there other ones just a bit more expensive that will cool better?

i dont know if i need 1080p, wouldnt it be very small on that 21.5" screen? if i go for the 1680x1050 acer monitor instead, would that be better for gaming?

do either of you have a cheap keyboard/mouse set that you would recommend? i want the keys to be quiet, and the keyboard to have media keys. i dont care if they are cordless or not though.
haha, im starting to have doubts on if things will work out. i guess you could say im getting nervous.
October 30, 2009 1:51:25 AM

Im not too sure on the motherboard question but Antec cases work really well at cooling.
As for the monitor it really doesn't matter too much for gaming but it will be really good for your video editing.
Logitech makes very good mouse and keyboard combos in wired and wireless for a pretty good price.

And you might want to consider getting 8GB of RAM if you can manage to fit it into you budget. Not for the gaming because that would be overkill but for the video editing.
October 30, 2009 4:03:53 AM

yeah, 8gb would not be in the budget. ill check out logitechs offerings on mouse and keyboard though.
October 30, 2009 10:20:33 AM

The Samsung drive is faster because it uses a single 500GB platter. The higher the data density, the faster the drive.

Running Crossfire on dual 8x PCI-E slots is just fine. The latest benchmarks show very little speed difference between 16x Crossfire and 8x Crossfire.
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