well u can find deals on em there gr8 i found a new OEM E8200 on ebay for 85.00 free shipping only thing is it dont come with heatsink and only has a 30 day warranty. But i suggest if u cant find an e8xxx for under 100 i wouldnt get it and honestly id go for the E8200 and overclock it its cheaper and u can overclock the crap out of em and will actully be faster then a stock E8500 cause FSB is higher