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March 5, 2012 3:32:00 PM

Hello TH LC forums! After long deliberation I've decided to take my First steps into a LC solution, but for cpu Only. My current specs:

Chase: Silverstone Ft02
Cooler- TT Frio CLP0564
CPU- Amd FX-8150
GPU- CF 6950's
Main Board- ASUS Sabertooth 990FX

First- I know that LC isn't really necessary for my setup, but I'v wanted to do it for a while and am able to right now, so I figure why the heck not.

I'm not interested in doing the whole custom loop thing for now, but looking for suggestions on systems from Like Corsair or Antec. Most FT02 setup's I've seen use a 120mm rad attached to the top of the case where the exhaust fan is, I figure that's the best place to start for my self.

I'd like to order in the next few days or so, and from Amazon or Newegg- newegg preferred. Also, I have read TH's LC stickies but it seemed that was for the more advanced LC user. There have been updates since TH's last LC review, and I wanted to know what the community thinks I should go with.

Thank you all!

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a b K Overclocking
March 5, 2012 4:07:38 PM

What direction you want to take is really up to you.

-If you want to start now and expand later -> read the stickies and buy quality parts
-If you only want to cool the CPU with little involvement -> buy a closed loop or stick with what you have

Very few of us will hold your hand and tell you what to buy for a custom solution without having you do your own research, so it's generally good to start with reading those stickies.

There's no easy way to really break into LCing, so the guide may seem overwhelming. However, you will learn a lot reading all of those links and then some. I can pretty safely say that those of us here who are very happy with our loops did 1-3 months dedicated and thorough research into our loops before assembling the entire thing.


If you need ideas for the FT02, take a look at my RV02 build (basically the same layout except the hard-drive cage): http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/267276-29-completed-1...
a c 324 K Overclocking
March 5, 2012 4:19:48 PM

Yeah, for a closed loop cooler, just pick one, snap it in, plug in and you are done. Really not much else to consider.
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March 5, 2012 4:25:45 PM

I see, so no real advantage to Corsair or Antec? say the Corsair h80 vs the antec 920 i think it is?
a b K Overclocking
March 5, 2012 4:46:46 PM

I think the Corsairs are more refined, but there are reviews that could better enumerate the differences.

Personally the only closed-loop cooler I'd ever consider would be the H100 because it has a 240mm rad. Just my preference based on knowing what I know.
March 5, 2012 4:52:07 PM

Yeah, I thought that too. The reason I'm not really trying to commit to a custom loop solution is because of the Case. the two closed loop setups I mention will fight right in the spot where the exhaust fan currently is on the FT02, and at a latter date I could include it into a wc loop, when I have more time to research which pump I'll need for a cpu/2xgpu/vram setup, what size resivor.. and making sure tube fitttings and tube's match
a b K Overclocking
March 5, 2012 4:56:02 PM

I had 2x6950s and my i5-2500K in my Raven at one point. There are many ways it could have been cleaner, but it worked well (45C max on both GPUs). I also would have bought different rads and blocks. It's possible in the FT02 :D 
March 5, 2012 5:10:46 PM

I know it is, and some of the setups look far better than those in inverted traditional chase's (psu at the bottom instead of top). I was choosing to go with the smaller 120radiators mainly because of the location I wanted to place it, would be a cleaner look to start with.
a c 76 K Overclocking
March 5, 2012 6:21:32 PM

ichy, welcome!

so you've decided on the LCS' ?
March 5, 2012 6:24:34 PM

I think so, will probably go Corsair for now, and when I get ready to plan out my custom loop for the 2 gpu's (i live in Flordia so the lower temps I can get, the better) and mobo vram I'll find a way to loop it in.
March 18, 2012 8:44:01 PM

Ok reviving this dead thread, decided to skip the closed loop Corsair option and dive strait in. The shopping list:


120 rad - http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8521/ex-rad-144/XSPC_...

180 rad - http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14196/ex-rad-287/Magi...

Res&pump - http://www.frozencpu.com/products/12675/ex-res-259/Dang...

CPUblck - http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14238/ex-blc-979/Heat...

GPU Blocks - http://www.frozencpu.com/products/12490/ex-blc-870/EK_R...

Xfire link - http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14822/ex-blc-1036/Hea...

tubing - http://www.frozencpu.com/products/12807/ex-tub-840/Prim...

kill Coil - http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11441/ex-tub-705/Iand...

CPU block fittings - http://www.frozencpu.com/products/12090/ex-tub-742/Bits...

Other Fittings - http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11110/ex-tub-703/Bits...

The build will be similar to this: http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1666270

1. I know I'll need 2 of the CPU fittings, but how many of the Others will I need?

2. I plan to use the 180mm fans that came with the FT02 in a push configuration

3. Do I need a 2nd fan for the 120 rad mounted to the top of the case , if so push/pull or pull/pull?

4. The ratings for the Danger Den res/pump looked fairly good, or should I avoid it and do to separate units?

5. I have mis match brands of 6950's, and Asus dcII and a Saphire Dirt3 Edition. Right now the DCII is primary, will the 2slot xfire connector work, or should I get the tripple? (same price).

6. Also, the GPU blocks are listed as for non-refrence (fairly certain that any 6950 bought with in the last 5 months- like mine- are non-refrence) 6970's, but should work for the 6950's as well right?

Thank for the help.
a b K Overclocking
March 18, 2012 10:10:11 PM


Just make sure this fits in the top. You might need to drill a few holes to attach it like I did.


I have this reservoir and I must say it was a complete PITA to assemble/hookup thanks to a lack of instructions. I also found my XSPC dual bay res/pump to be easier to live with. Personal preference I guess.


You could save about $40 with the XSPC Raystorm (~$50), which will also cool better according to a few reviews. Plus, the interior of the block is still copper...


I would pass on these blocks. I had one and although it didn't give me any problems, EK is basically saying that you shouldn't even use plain distilled water in your loop.




You have to use these with HeatKiller's blocks. EK makes their own sets if you want to use EK's GPU blocks. You could also get Swiftech universal blocks + Swiftech's SLI/XFire connectors.


This is cheaper on Amazon and it ships free: http://www.amazon.com/PrimoFlex-Tubing-2in-4in-10ft/dp/...


Just a note: if you buy universal GPU blocks, these won't fit.

Quote:
1. I know I'll need 2 of the CPU fittings, but how many of the Others will I need?

2 fittings per component (inlet and outlet)

Quote:
3. Do I need a 2nd fan for the 120 rad mounted to the top of the case , if so push/pull or pull/pull?

You could add a second if you wanted. I have 2 in push-pull.

Quote:
4. The ratings for the Danger Den res/pump looked fairly good, or should I avoid it and do to separate units?

You're best off getting a good pump to begin with. There are some XSPC kits with D5s preinstalled rather than XSPC's X2O pump.

Quote:
5. I have mis match brands of 6950's, and Asus dcII and a Saphire Dirt3 Edition. Right now the DCII is primary, will the 2slot xfire connector work, or should I get the tripple? (same price).

Just count the number of slots between where the blocks would be. Otherwise you could use fittings + tubing (what I did).

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6. Also, the GPU blocks are listed as for non-refrence (fairly certain that any 6950 bought with in the last 5 months- like mine- are non-refrence) 6970's, but should work for the 6950's as well right?

Since your GPUs have manufacturer-custom coolers, they are considered non-reference. You should check using EK's CoolingConfigurator.com to make sure the blocks will work with your GPUs. Not all non-reference cards have the same PCB layout.
a c 324 K Overclocking
March 19, 2012 12:09:26 AM

Your Boilermakers are playing my Jayhawks right now. Rock Chalk Jayhawk, go KU!



Otherwise, good info.
a b K Overclocking
March 19, 2012 2:22:30 AM

Heartbreaking loss. Was a real nail-biter though :( 

Watched like a true nerd!
a c 76 K Overclocking
March 19, 2012 4:23:25 AM

you know, that page/pic should go into the sticky for added info on those EK's.

okay i'll take a shot at giving some input:
1| stay away from EK's until you stop seeing corroded EK blocks.
2| if you have the DCII's i think they use no ref PCB's for the GPU. The Dirt3 however is the PCB used on a 6870 - so you can get the heatkiller 6870 GPU-X3 block - which'll go with the bridge you selected.
3| that res you chose, doesn't come with a pump so you're paying alot for only a res.
4| take a look at this: was also going for a chrome black theme for another WC'ing build but i'm sure you can get a general idea of what to change.

5| might also look at the XSPC extreme kit and slap on some XSPC compression fittings and GPU blocks.
a b K Overclocking
March 19, 2012 12:27:56 PM

Lutfij said:
you know, that page/pic should go into the sticky for added info on those EK's

We have one? Going to look for it now...
a c 324 K Overclocking
March 19, 2012 12:45:37 PM

boiler1990 said:
Heartbreaking loss. Was a real nail-biter though :( 

Watched like a true nerd!
http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l554/bravokiloromeo/IMG_20120318_220916.jpg



I'll be perfectly honest- Matt Painter took Thomas Robinson out of his game by triple teaming the paint and forcing the rest of the team to perform, which they didn't do. I've never seen us shoot so miserably like we did last night...holding KU to under 30% is a remarkable feat. I was pretty nervous once we got within 5 mins of the end of the game...usually we'll play a bad half and then come out completely on fire and pull away by 15-20..and we didn't do that last night. Kudos to your Boilermakers- they played very tough...they played like a 4-5 seed rather than a 10.

My pulse was racing- being ahead for the first time in the last 45 seconds of the game isn't something we do all that often. :) 

And yes we have a sticky....[:bilbat:3]

March 19, 2012 12:54:47 PM

Thanks for the Info Guys, I'll have a updated list here shortly
a c 76 K Overclocking
March 19, 2012 1:29:54 PM

:non:  boiler how could you trample on rubix's sweat drenched sticky...? :pfff: 
a b K Overclocking
March 19, 2012 1:40:12 PM

Lutfij said:
:non:  boiler how could you trample on rubix's sweat drenched sticky...? :pfff: 

There was an old thread around here that was discussing the issues with EK's blocks - I thought you guys were referring to that. I found it and updated it this morning ;) 
March 19, 2012 2:20:45 PM

boiler1990 said:

Just make sure this fits in the top. You might need to drill a few holes to attach it like I did.


I have this reservoir and I must say it was a complete PITA to assemble/hookup thanks to a lack of instructions. I also found my XSPC dual bay res/pump to be easier to live with. Personal preference I guess.


You could save about $40 with the XSPC Raystorm (~$50), which will also cool better according to a few reviews. Plus, the interior of the block is still copper...


I would pass on these blocks. I had one and although it didn't give me any problems, EK is basically saying that you shouldn't even use plain distilled water in your loop.

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l554/bravokiloromeo/IMG_20120203_190554.jpg


You have to use these with HeatKiller's blocks. EK makes their own sets if you want to use EK's GPU blocks. You could also get Swiftech universal blocks + Swiftech's SLI/XFire connectors.


This is cheaper on Amazon and it ships free: http://www.amazon.com/PrimoFlex-Tubing-2in-4in-10ft/dp/...


Just a note: if you buy universal GPU blocks, these won't fit.

Quote:
1. I know I'll need 2 of the CPU fittings, but how many of the Others will I need?

2 fittings per component (inlet and outlet)

Quote:
3. Do I need a 2nd fan for the 120 rad mounted to the top of the case , if so push/pull or pull/pull?

You could add a second if you wanted. I have 2 in push-pull.

Quote:
4. The ratings for the Danger Den res/pump looked fairly good, or should I avoid it and do to separate units?

You're best off getting a good pump to begin with. There are some XSPC kits with D5s preinstalled rather than XSPC's X2O pump.

Quote:
5. I have mis match brands of 6950's, and Asus dcII and a Saphire Dirt3 Edition. Right now the DCII is primary, will the 2slot xfire connector work, or should I get the tripple? (same price).

Just count the number of slots between where the blocks would be. Otherwise you could use fittings + tubing (what I did).

Quote:
6. Also, the GPU blocks are listed as for non-refrence (fairly certain that any 6950 bought with in the last 5 months- like mine- are non-refrence) 6970's, but should work for the 6950's as well right?

Since your GPUs have manufacturer-custom coolers, they are considered non-reference. You should check using EK's CoolingConfigurator.com to make sure the blocks will work with your GPUs. Not all non-reference cards have the same PCB layout.



I'm Fairly Certain it will fit with out modding. Several others with my case (FT02) have used it in their own WC loops from [H]ard Forums- I posted a link to one individuals build I liked and essentially used as a template.

so New List, and i'm using frozencpu.com right now as a kind of newegg thing, so all links are from the same place to make it easier for you guys, but I will order from other places.

120 Rad: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/ [...] iator.html
180 Rad: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/ [...] 180X3.html - no one commented on this btw.
res/pump: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/13884/ex-res-300/XSPC...

CPU Block: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14191/ex-blc-972/XSPC...

Cpu alt: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...

GPU Blocks: Saph 6950 drt3 ed: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...
Asus 6950 DCII ed: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...

Link: droped because it doesn't seem swiftech has one. and I probably can't use it either because of the refrence/non reference board set up.

Tubing: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10483/ex-tub-643/Tygo... - x5 (I think 10 bill be over kill here- tubing looks long as well)

Fightings: Need Help here now- not sure what to get. maybe stick to Alphacool for the GC's, and enzotech for the rest?- total of 6 fitings (2x rads- cpu block)

The rads didn't change because of how much research I put into them- I decided to go with what LutFij n the res/pump combo. On the CPU block(s)- was looking at it but didn't see anything to indicate it had a back plate. Where I need the most help is the Fittings, because of my tubing I know "ll need the 1/4, but other than that I'm at a loss.
a c 324 K Overclocking
March 19, 2012 2:28:03 PM

Quote:
boiler how could you trample on rubix's sweat drenched sticky...?


...was giving him a hard time more than anything else... :) 

Quote:
Where I need the most help is the Fittings, because of my tubing I know "ll need the 1/4, but other than that I'm at a loss.


I think you are confused in G1/4" vs. actual ID/OD of tubing and fitting sizes. This is covered in the sticky:

Quote:
Fittings are one that cause a lot of confusion for most newcomers. Here is a simple way to understand the terminology that accompanys each:



I.D. - Inside diameter, most commonly referring to the ID of the tubing to be used. 1/2"ID means that wall to wall, the inside of the tubing measures 1/2" (metric is also used and is measured in millimeters or mm)

O.D.- Outside diameter, similar to the ID, the OD simply is the measurement of the tubing through the cross-section from one side of the outer wall to the other.

G1/4" - This is the one that confuses the most people. This refers to the threaded fitting standard that is used by almost all waterblocks and radiators. It is the end of the fitting that gets screwed into the block or rad; the other end of this same fitting is measured with the I.D. standard for tubing size.


In short- just forget about the G1/4 for now...most watercooling gear uses G1/4 threaded fittings, so they are fairly universal. Just focus on ID/OD of fittings and tubing and you will be fine. There are some fittings that don't use G1/4, but once you stat to narrow down your choices, just make sure you are getting the correct thread type.
March 19, 2012 2:33:29 PM

Thanks rubix, looked at the toobings I was right- its 1/4 ID/ 3/8 Od- I'll look at fittings in the aspect. How about everything else- my especially the cpu back plate question- I currently use a custom one from TT because of the frio.. would I be able to re-use it or does iether of the blocks I selected come with it?
a c 324 K Overclocking
March 19, 2012 2:41:59 PM

Your block should come with correct mounting gear, so just make sure you get what you are supposed to get. Most blocks I've seen have some kind of backplate, but there are some that do not. For the ones that do not, you can also find some alternative mount kits by those manufacturers that have a backplate, so just check it out.

The Raystorm you have listed doesn't look like it comes with a backplate, so there might not be a need for one. However, if you have a backplate you are already using and can find the hardware to use to mount it, I don't see any reason why you couldn't use a different backplate to mount this block. It would just help maintain MB rigidity- just be sure not to short anything by touching metal to any MB traces. Also, you shouldn't have to put a lot of stress on a CPU when mounting a block; this is a common misconception.
March 19, 2012 3:45:04 PM

Ok check out the swift tech alternate cpu block, it comes with a back plate, but I updated to a newer one from frozencpu.

list changes:

CPU block: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14366/ex-blc-1001/Swi...

Fittings: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14597/ex-tub-1042/Enz... - thinking 10x- 4x for gpu, 4x for rads, 2x for cpu block - not a fan of the barb fittings. I used to paint ball a lot, and most of the pressure hose fittings were barbed- was a PITA to install.

Side question on tubing- would going with a larger tubing, say 1/2 Id 3/4 od be better for flow & cooling? Also having trouble finding a Kill Coil
a c 324 K Overclocking
March 19, 2012 3:56:21 PM

Barbs for watercooling aren't anything like paintball fittings- I also used to play paintball.
a c 76 K Overclocking
March 19, 2012 3:57:28 PM

ichy could you hold the thought on the heatkiller for a bit - will be popping out for some air. and yeah you'll need the backplate as the heatkillers don't come with the mobo backplate. only the hold down mounting mechanism is given.
a b K Overclocking
March 19, 2012 4:00:56 PM

Quote:
120 Rad: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/ [...] iator.html
180 Rad: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/ [...] 180X3.html - no one commented on this btw.

Not much to say on the rads - there aren't a ton of rads that use 180mm fans, so you'll have to go with that unless you want to drill a lot of holes.


Better choice IMO. I would have bought the XSPC bayres if Amazon had it (needed it quickly; only the Myriad had Prime shipping).

Quote:
CPU Block: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14191/ex-blc-972/XSPC...

On the CPU block(s)- was looking at it but didn't see anything to indicate it had a back plate.

Retail CPU blocks come with the mounting gear you need. If I were spending money on a block I'd still go with the XSPC. It's your call, but the Raystorm is one of the best blocks for the least $$$.

From your link:
"Supplied with mounting hardware
775, 1156/1155, and 1366 backplates
twin blue LED
allen key
K2 thermal paste"


Quote:
GPU Blocks: Saph 6950 drt3 ed: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...
Asus 6950 DCII ed: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...

Link: droped because it doesn't seem swiftech has one. and I probably can't use it either because of the refrence/non reference board set up.

I was referring to universal blocks before, like the MCW82. If you want matching blocks, you'll most likely have to go with universal blocks. I switched from full covers to the MCW82 and it does quite well - get 25-30C temps in winter, have yet to see what I get in summer.

If you manage to find 2 full cover blocks, they may be different brands and they may not match up, rendering any SLI/XFire links useless.


Quote:
Tubing: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10483/ex-tub-643/Tygo... - x5 (I think 10 bill be over kill here- tubing looks long as well)


There wasn't anything wrong with the tubing you had listed before. Rubix and I both use Primochill LRT. Why the change?

Quote:
Fittings: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/ [...] 0c409s1031 - thinking 10x- 4x for gpu, 4x for rads, 2x for cpu block - not a fan of the barb fittings. I used to paint ball a lot, and most of the pressure hose fittings were barbed- was a PITA to install.


Compression fittings still have a barb; they just come with a ring to clamp the tubing onto the barb instead of a clamp. In some instances a barb fitting is a bit more useful than a compression fitting (especially in places you can't reach easily).

Quote:
Side question on tubing- would going with a larger tubing, say 1/2 Id 3/4 od be better for flow & cooling? Also having trouble finding a Kill Coil


Yes - larger tubing = more flow = better cooling. Rubix and I both run 1/2 ID 3/4 OD in our builds. You could also run 3/8 ID 1/2 OD if your case is a bit smaller; it'll fit better if you're low on space, but cool quite adequately.

Kill coil
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11441/ex-tub-705/Iand...
a c 324 K Overclocking
March 19, 2012 4:11:37 PM

There isn't a lot of difference in flow or temps from 3/8"ID, 7/16"ID or 1/2"ID tubing...it's mainly preference and availability.

Also note, there are thin and thick walled versions of most tubing sizes as well. You can tell which is which as tubing is denoted by both ID and OD. Thin walled tubing has an ID/OD difference of 1/16" of an inch...thick walled tubing has a difference of 1/8" of an inch.
March 19, 2012 4:38:00 PM

Ok, I think I may have it this time! Switch back to the old tubing after reading your inputs-

rad 120: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8521/ex-rad-144/XSPC_...
rad 180: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14196/ex-rad-287/Magi...
pump/res: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/13884/ex-res-300/XSPC...

cpu block: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14366/ex-blc-1001/Swi... - Have to request the back plate for my AM3+ socket mobo from switch tech

gpu block: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14170/ex-blc-965/Swif... - I'll use for both, only problem is finding a VRM heat sink like the one on the Asus- if I switch to a Pull setup on the 180rad, It will help with cooling the vrm on both cards.

Fittings- Strait : http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11110/ex-tub-703/Bits...
fittings - 45 degree : http://www.frozencpu.com/products/12090/ex-tub-742/Bits...

Tubing: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/12806/ex-tub-841/Prim...

KillCoil: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11441/ex-tub-705/Iand...

Distilled water: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14874/ex-liq-202/Alph...

the last thing to find is bay adpaters, so I can hook my ssd raid and hdd up in the 5.25 bay area.
a c 76 K Overclocking
March 19, 2012 5:38:51 PM

ah, back :) 

ichy -

would you resort to getting triple 140 rads?

pump/res + gpu block - :) 

distilled water will be better and cheaper. You can find it at your pharmacy or at your grocery store. If not I'm using battery water which is demineralized.

fittings are up to you - what srt of a theme are you going for? black+white?

i reserve my thoughts about the HD block "but" you could get better with the raystorm. If you do get the raystorm in its vanilla flavor, you can get the alu holddown plate from xspc's site or i think its available for purchase on other sites and swap out the acrlyic holddown.

rest checks out fine :) 
March 19, 2012 6:08:22 PM

Lutfij said:
ah, back :) 

ichy -

would you resort to getting triple 140 rads?

pump/res + gpu block - :) 

distilled water will be better and cheaper. You can find it at your pharmacy or at your grocery store. If not I'm using battery water which is demineralized.

fittings are up to you - what srt of a theme are you going for? black+white?

i reserve my thoughts about the HD block "but" you could get better with the raystorm. If you do get the raystorm in its vanilla flavor, you can get the alu holddown plate from xspc's site or i think its available for purchase on other sites and swap out the acrlyic holddown.

rest checks out fine :) 


You mean this one right? If we could get a 2nd opinion agreeing then I'll be more than happy to switch.

If you could show me an example of someone using 3x140 rads- slim versions because I need 10.5 to 10.7 inches to fit my 2 6950's in the case with rad's and fans then sure, and I'll post build picks. Other wise i'm going to do something similar like

This but with the Magicooler. I also like his HDD setup and have decided to copy it, probably doin that mod first befor my WC setup.
March 19, 2012 6:30:03 PM

Ah, I see a potential problem with the 3x140 idea. One would need enough room for each set of inlets for the radiators which would take up to much room... unless you ment something from Here
a c 76 K Overclocking
March 19, 2012 6:43:44 PM

um i just remembered you have an AMD setup - but the raystorm also comes in an aluminium holddown bracket but i think its only intel for now - like this

yeah i mean the black ICE's/watercool (or the aquacomputer if you have the cash) :p 

ah, saw that link a few months back thanks to rubix. good going but you could add your own twist to a loop, no harm copying but no harm being original :p  :) 
March 19, 2012 6:58:26 PM

I'd like the black ICE very much so, cash won't be an issue, problem is it the same height as the magicooler? like I said it will be in issue because of the need of 10.5 to 10.7 inches for the 6950's length.

As for the cpu block, don't really like the looks of the the XSPC RayStorm for amd... thats a big as plate to hold it down. Any other suggestions?
a c 76 K Overclocking
March 19, 2012 7:08:14 PM
a b K Overclocking
March 19, 2012 7:08:48 PM

Ichy said:

As for the cpu block, don't really like the looks of the the XSPC RayStorm for amd... thats a big as plate to hold it down. Any other suggestions?


Most CPU blocks are going to mount like that since AMD's bracket spacing is very wide.
March 19, 2012 7:21:39 PM

Ok, so SR1 or GT extreme. Noticed the stealth too, looks quit a bit smaller... wonder how much performance loss would be.

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14238/ex-blc-979/Heat... - read the only review on it and the individual has the same CPU I do, so hopefully it will work.

I also thought about http://www.frozencpu.com/products/7357/ex-blc-477/EK_Su... has great reviews but If I remember correctly you guys suggested staying away from EK because of corrosion issues.
a c 76 K Overclocking
March 19, 2012 7:26:35 PM

we'd ask EK to go out of business cos of that corrosion hassle :p 

but yeah alot of people have been cussing EK for their corner cutting actions. Heatkiller also suffers from the same corrosion issue but haven't seen many with a problem.

or you could just get the copper version and get the AMD holddown black/chrome kit(if it exists).
March 19, 2012 7:33:48 PM

Copper version? Link plz, and if you had to choose SR1 or Gt extrem which would it be. I'm feeling the gt because its .2mm shorter (might make all the difference when cabeling)
a c 76 K Overclocking
March 19, 2012 7:43:51 PM

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if you had to choose SR1 or Gt extrem which would it be
none, would ask you to give yourself the question and churn out the answer - cos its all you baby. sorry got carried away there. Yeah its upto you. Personally i go for aesthetics - thus my Airplex Modular rad from aqwuacomputer.


ahem! this is what the AMD chrome version would look like:
http://www.overclock.net/t/528648/official-heatkiller-c...
a c 324 K Overclocking
March 19, 2012 7:53:35 PM

There are many more radiator choices out there than just Black Ice models.
March 19, 2012 7:59:47 PM

Rubix- I'm aware, but the black ice seems to fit in well with the black theme I was going for.. the asus dcII is black red, and my mobo is black green, but the rest is a dust black/light black.

lutfij- that looks like the Heatkiller I linked.. guess i'm going to go with it.
a c 324 K Overclocking
March 19, 2012 8:04:06 PM

Almost all radiators are painted black, unless they are explicitly a different color, or copper.
a b K Overclocking
March 19, 2012 8:05:25 PM

Note that the corrosion issues are only with EK's Nickel-plated products (which are copper on the inside). I have a Full Copper EK Supreme HF CPU block and it's great, but a bit pricey compared to some other blocks.
a c 76 K Overclocking
March 19, 2012 8:19:06 PM

yeah i just checked, no issue with the heatkillers nickel/chrome plating.

EK is also good but go no higher or lower than a full copper version. EN plating is horrible on them.
March 19, 2012 8:31:39 PM

Ok so for Copper blocks: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/7357/ex-blc-477/EK_Su... says its copper and looks copper, but a spec on the bottom mentions mounting in nickel.

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p... - amd specific

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p... - alpha

I like the Nickel heatkiller, but whats the performance diff between it and and a Copper EK?

As for the rad, I'm going to stick with my orginal http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l3/g30/c95/s1552/list/p1/L... - mainly to keep cost down and use the 180 fans that came with my tower. they had a good high-mid review on here some time back.
a b K Overclocking
March 19, 2012 9:04:50 PM

Quote:
Ok so for Copper blocks: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/7357/ex-blc-477/EK_Su... says its copper and looks copper, but a spec on the bottom mentions mounting in nickel.

EK has a new type of mount called Easy Mount, and they just have it in Nickel for this block. The block itself is copper, so there's no plating issues there.


I have this block. Works well. Not sure it works $80 well though.


Not sure about either of these.

Have a read through this: http://skinneelabs.com/2011-cpu-block-review-compilatio...

I think you're making this a little harder than it needs to be ;) 
March 19, 2012 9:37:43 PM

Your probably right on the harder part. So I'll make this the final build order list, however quantities for the fittings may very

XSPC RX 120 Rad x1
Migicooler Trip180 - only 180 on Frozen x1
XSPC Dual 5.25" bay Res /w Alphacool VPP655 x1
EK Supreme HF U. Block - because its in stock- x1
Swiftech MCW82 VGA CB - x2
Bitspower 1/2ID x 3/4OD Compression fitting- strait x6
Bitspower 1/2ID x 3/4OD 45 degree compression Fitting x4
PrimoChill 1/2IDx3/4OD 1/8 wall- 10ft toobing
Iandh Silver KillCoil x1
Promochill Deionized Water- 32 oz x2- just incase.
Artic COOLER m4 thermal compound x1- I may not need this because I have extra epoxy from when I might my TT frio (not used)-
Heatsink for the Saphire x1
Adhesive for the Heatsinksx1


Only thing I'm worried about after all this is the vrm on the saphire not having a heatsink.. I'd love to get one like the Asus dcII but that might be a little hard
a b K Overclocking
March 19, 2012 10:00:51 PM

You'll need these for the VRAM/VRMs on the GPUs (there are more options if you look elsewhere):
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/3885/vid-54/Swiftech_...
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/7191/vid-106/Enzotech...

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Artic Silver Preium Thermal Epoxy x1- I may not need this because I have extra epoxy from when I might my TT frio (not used)

You want thermal paste/TIM not epoxy. Your heatsink will glued to the CPU.

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Promochill Deionized Water- 32 oz x2- just incase.

Any normal grocery store should have the distilled water you need, and for like $1 per gallon. I use about a gallon filling my loop (128 oz). Never hurts to have more :) 
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