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November 9, 2009 12:24:17 PM

For 3ds Max will my 9600GSO be able to take advantage of all the GPU accelerated features or must I buy a Quadtro or FireGL card?

I know they are the same basic GPUs as the gaming models.

If so, will the 192bit bus and 384MB VRAM bottleneck me at all?

I'm honestly a beginner when it comes to 3d rendering so don't except millions of polygons from me ;) 

Thanks alot...

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November 9, 2009 1:30:41 PM

U will be more than satisfied with ur current card....if ur worried about the hardware based rendering features then dont be....there are none for 3d software packages....the one renderer that used GPU was gelato from nvidia and has stopped development....I regularly use max for my production pipeline and my current gaming cards get the work done nicely......dont waste money on quadro....the only drawback is that quadro cards make for a slightly smooth navigation when polygon count hits a high....but when u work on such levels u will automatically learn to work by isolating specific layers of ur model.....JUst have good CPU for fast rendering....
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a c 147 U Graphics card
November 9, 2009 1:45:29 PM

Will your 9600GSO work? YES
Will your 9600GSO work better than a comparible Quatro card? NO

The workstation cards come with much better drivers for 3d modeling and such. Look at the link below when they tested a GTX280 VS a Quatro FX 4800, which is it's workstation counterpart. In 3dMax the performance on the workstation card was all but 400% better than the desktop card.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/quadro-fx-4800,2258...
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November 9, 2009 3:41:32 PM

Benchmarks aside there is no major reason warranting a quadro for personal use.....I used FX 3500 for 2 years which cost me thrice than my current 295 and what did i get.... a GPU which had minimal performance gain 3d apps at a much larger price margin....

I agree that quadro card enjoy a much greater muscle in graphics computing and superior drivers....But that is can only possibly harnessed in expert hands.....If a person has CUDA programming knowledge then quadro will be his super weapon....In my opinion quadro is best suited for VFX companies who spend R&D programming their cards for specific apps and work.....
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a c 147 U Graphics card
November 9, 2009 3:57:03 PM

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Like I said.. his card will work. I was just spitting information.
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November 9, 2009 4:02:03 PM

No problem....i appreciate it.....I was just voicing my opinion.....
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a c 147 U Graphics card
November 9, 2009 4:08:49 PM

^It is a very valid point though
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November 9, 2009 7:12:44 PM

jay2tall said:
Will your 9600GSO work? YES
Will your 9600GSO work better than a comparible Quatro card? NO

The workstation cards come with much better drivers for 3d modeling and such. Look at the link below when they tested a GTX280 VS a Quatro FX 4800, which is it's workstation counterpart. In 3dMax the performance on the workstation card was all but 400% better than the desktop card.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/quadro-fx-4800,2258...


But isn't the FX4800 a comparable card to the GTX 280?

Sure there are slight hardware differences, but I doubt it would have such a big impact...
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a c 147 U Graphics card
November 9, 2009 9:44:18 PM

I'm just saying whatever card you have, the Quadro equivilent will outperform in those types of apps. I think the 9600's card is like an FX1800 or something like that.
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November 10, 2009 12:00:50 AM

jay2tall said:
Will your 9600GSO work? YES
Will your 9600GSO work better than a comparible Quatro card? NO

The workstation cards come with much better drivers for 3d modeling and such. Look at the link below when they tested a GTX280 VS a Quatro FX 4800, which is it's workstation counterpart. In 3dMax the performance on the workstation card was all but 400% better than the desktop card.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/quadro-fx-4800,2258...


The benchamrk uses Max 9 (from 2006) with Open GL.

The current version (Max 2010) uses DirectX now.

Try those benchmarks again.
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a b U Graphics card
November 10, 2009 1:46:01 AM

I believe there are driver/software mods to trick normal desktop cards into thinking they are there workstation cards etc out there - search around!
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a b U Graphics card
November 10, 2009 2:15:08 AM

Well, from my experience in CAD programs (I know different, but one is from the same company) for basic models most everything will work fine, however, you often do lose some of the nicer touches and the program will complain a bit, but otherwise it is quite usable. However, this may vary from program to program, task to task. I'm not sure what your decision is though: if you already have the program, try it on your card and see if it is acceptable. If you don't, but are a student, you should be able to get the program for free (for at least 6 months) to try it out and see if it is acceptable. And the danger with the VC BIOS trickery is that if it doesn't work out, you could just end up with a brick.
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November 10, 2009 7:05:38 AM

jay2tall said:
I'm just saying whatever card you have, the Quadro equivilent will outperform in those types of apps. I think the 9600's card is like an FX1800 or something like that.


Oh well, I'm not fretting over anything. I don't want to soft-mod my graphics card just yet. I'm not willing to take the risk.

Whatever I have now I'll have to be happy with, I'm not in the position to buy anything at this point (3ds MAX costs alot, even student discount editions)
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a c 147 U Graphics card
November 10, 2009 9:57:33 AM

^Your card will be fine. I know the guys I had worked with wanted something decent. I don't recall what I bought, but they were like $700, which an entry level card. It would redraw everything much faster for them. But then again they worked with some HUGE drawings with tons of HVAC and electrical components. That was in CAD, btw.
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