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October 31, 2009 2:33:24 PM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE:When good Black Friday Deals come out

BUDGET RANGE:$2300.00

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: (gaming, sony vegas 9, browsing internet)

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: (Moniter, keyboard,mouse)

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: (newegg.com) USA

OVERCLOCKING: Yes OR CROSSFIRE: Yes

Chasis:LIAN LI Lancool PC-K62 Black 0.8 mm SECC, Plastic + Mesh ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$119.00

PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$109.99

RAM:Mushkin Enhanced Redline 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model 998691 - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo: GIGABYTE GA-EX58-UD5 LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$278.00

Optical Drive: PLEXTOR Black 8X BD-ROM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA Internal BD Combo Model PX-B320SA LightScribe Support
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$125.00

GPU: XFX HD-587A-ZNF9 Radeon HD 5870 (Cypress XT) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card w/ATI Eyefinity - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$389.99

HDD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$79.99

CPU: core i7 920 ........getting it from microcenter 15 mins from my house i never knew existed for 200.00!

Heatsink: Prolimatech Megahalem Rev. B for Intel 775 / 1156 / 1366
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/prmeforinso7.html
$61.95

Total come down to around 1600 only!

I was wondering how I could improve this because I am around 700 dollars under budget? Should I do anything at all and just be happy I saved money?

Thx for any and all help

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October 31, 2009 2:50:07 PM

I might look at dropping a 64GB SSD hard drive for your OS and Games and use the 1TB drive just for data storage. I'd also ask what size/resolution monitor you have currently.

-Wolf sends
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October 31, 2009 4:52:36 PM

Wolfshadw said:

-1 I might look at dropping a 64GB SSD hard drive for your OS and Games and use the 1TB drive just for data storage.
-2 I'd also ask what size/resolution monitor you have currently.

-Wolf sends


1.I'd really like to know what kind of increase in performance I would get by doing this?, every bodies been saying to get a ssd for my os but I just dont understand why. Maybe you could explain it to me

2.I have an old Envision EN-8500, I planned on upgrading just not yet but If you could make a good recommendation I might look in to it


blackhawk1928 said:

-1 Get this Ram instead: Muskin Enhanced Redline 6GB Tri-Channel 1600mhz, CL6.

-2 Use the HDD for storage and get a Solid State Drive for your OS/Apps.
Intel X-25M 80GB Solid State Drive

-3 Get a Full Tower Case also

-4 And get this motherboard MOBO !!! It has 4 Ram slots vs 6 on the one you gave, and supprts 16GB instead of 24GB, everything else is the same and you save 100bucks :) ))


-1 I just changed it

-2 Please see above

-3 Care to recommend one?

-4 Is the performance really the same? What if I wanted to upgrade the ram later?
October 31, 2009 5:00:03 PM

Ya i recommend the hdd drive be changed to a WD caviar black 1 tb they are the better choice ! only about 99 .00 dollars. Consider the HAF 932 for a case man that thing is like a wind tunnel. the mother board great choice however i like the ultra 120 heatsink. the xfx 5870 is great thing is a beast and get an hdmi cable if your monitor takes it if not get a new monitor and hell buy another 5870 GREAT BUILD THOUGH HAVE FUN!
October 31, 2009 5:03:57 PM

NO GO WITH THE UD5 mobo why do you wanna save money? GEEZ you had it right the first time and the ssd's are stupid the performance is NOT worth the price man!
October 31, 2009 5:37:36 PM

^Yes it is...what are you talking about...have you ever used an SSD? It gives a huge increase in performance, its like a nitro jet engine boost on the computer. I've used a Slow SSD with only a 160mbps read speed and it was still a massive increase from hard drives.
October 31, 2009 6:00:08 PM

FREERAVEN said:


1.Ya i recommend the hdd drive be changed to a WD caviar black 1 tb they are the better choice ! only about 99 .00 dollars.

2.Consider the HAF 932 for a case man that thing is like a wind tunnel.

3.the mother board great choice however i like the ultra 120 heatsink.

4.the xfx 5870 is great thing is a beast hell buy another 5870 GREAT BUILD THOUGH HAVE FUN!

5 get an hdmi cable if your monitor takes it if not get a new monitor



1.The wd caviar is actually slower

2.I like Lian Li cases due to easy setup factor with all thumb screws

3.http://www.frostytech.com/top5heatsinks.cfm

4.I actually haven't even gotten my first 5870 they are out of stock

5. Care to recommend? I was thinking DELL SP2208WFP
October 31, 2009 6:25:51 PM

Some ideas / considerations:

Full Tower Case - CM HAF 932 ($20) or Antec 1200 ($40)

Same memory but w/ Ascent Cooling ($20....were $204 last week)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Asus P6T Deluxe ($10) or Rampage II Extreme ($50 w/ rebate)

2nd ATI FX Card in XFire ($389)

3rd GFX card for PhysX ($100)
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/batman_arkham_asylu...
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-ATI-physx-patch...

Gonna need some CPU fans and maybe a better thermal paste ($7)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/7038/thr-41/Innovatio...
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8807/cpu-pro-01/Proli...

Need one of these ? ($35)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Stick w/ a 500 GB per platter HD.
October 31, 2009 7:58:41 PM

Dont get an open box motherboard. It wont come with any of the cables or connectors that you need, it is just the board itself, no manuals either.

Having an SSD for your OS would cut your boot time down significantly, but it wont have any impact once the machine is booted up, if you rarely restart your machine then there is no reason to get one.

The HAF932 is one of the best cases for good airflow, its large fans will be quite and move a ton of air, its probably the best choice.
October 31, 2009 8:16:12 PM

I want to weigh in on the case first. The Lian Li you chose is a nicely cooled case. It may not be the most popular but that doesn't need to be a factor in your decision. I frequently recommend the HAF but that does not mean I would use one in my own home. Too ugly.

I use a Silverstone TJ09:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
This was strictly an aesthetic decision and I would not recommend it for serious overclocking or even high end crossfire. It just doesn't have the air flow.
It does have a very thick front plate that goes thunk when you knock on it, and a removable motherboard tray, and some other nice features.

The CM stacker is a nice choice for larger budgets:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
October 31, 2009 8:40:57 PM

Get the modular psu (HX 750,850) and an SSD.
October 31, 2009 8:51:50 PM

**Need Monitor

Chasis:COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN1-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$140.00

PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$110.00

RAM:Mushkin Enhanced Redline 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model 998692 - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$225.00

Mobo: GIGABYTE GA-EX58-UD5 LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$280.00

Optical Drive: PLEXTOR Black 8X BD-ROM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA Internal BD Combo Model PX-B320SA LightScribe Support
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$125.00

GPU: XFX HD-587A-ZNF9 Radeon HD 5870 (Cypress XT) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card w/ATI Eyefinity - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$389.99

HDD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$79.99

CPU: core i7 920 ........getting it from microcenter 15 mins from my house i never knew existed for 200.00!

Heatsink: Prolimatech Megahalem Rev. B for Intel 775 / 1156 / 1366
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/prmeforinso7.html
$70.00+7.00 thermal paste

Card reader: AFT XM-35U BLACK USB 2.0 Kiosk Card Reader (3.5") - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$35.00


Now Approx $1750.00 I am pretty happy with price but very willing to make improvements

October 31, 2009 9:04:00 PM

Corssair HX750 modular psu will help
October 31, 2009 10:42:51 PM

I disagree. Crossfire 5870s on a good overclocked system is going to pull in excess of 600W:
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1107/7/

Factor in capacitor aging, transient load spikes, and efficiency and you will need a larger PSU.

Here are the three best 850W, in order of quality:

Seasonic
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Antec
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Corsair
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
November 1, 2009 12:03:06 AM

Proximon said:
I disagree. Crossfire 5870s on a good overclocked system is going to pull in excess of 600W:
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1107/7/

Factor in capacitor aging, transient load spikes, and efficiency and you will need a larger PSU.

Here are the three best 850W, in order of quality:

Seasonic
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Antec
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Corsair
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


I actually had 1000w corsair but I was told it was too much but any way

PSU:Antec Signature SG-850 850W Continuous Power ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC "compatible with Core i7/Core i5" Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
DONE!

Proximon said:
Really? That's an impressive deal.

Other than the hydraulic opening door I though it wasn't anything special
November 1, 2009 12:20:22 AM

you should go with the intel x25-m 80gb g2 ssd, and install os, games, and apps on it and have the media on the regular hdd. it will improve the performance REALLY much overall.
November 1, 2009 1:35:43 AM

Derbixrace said:
you should go with the intel x25-m 80gb g2 ssd, and install os, games, and apps on it and have the media on the regular hdd. it will improve the performance REALLY much overall.


I don't believe that
November 1, 2009 1:51:27 AM

budfut said:
I don't believe that


I meant, I really don't think it will be a significant improvement
November 1, 2009 1:22:17 AM

Boot times will be about half w/ an SSD....other than that whether you notice depends on what you do and how you do it. For example, if you arrive at work, push da button on ya PC, take of ya jacket, type in ya password, get a cup of java ..... it really don't mean a hill of coffee beans whether ya machine boots in 80 or 40 seconds.....you won't be back at ya desk for 3 minutes.
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