I have been researching a new computer for weeks now (mostly looking at Velocity Micro systems). I have never actually hand-built a system before, so I am a little timid. I am an electrician and I have tinkered with adding ram, and video & sound cards a few years ago. I don't know how to overclock or mess with Bios or anything...just plug-and-play type stuff. I don't mind spending some extra money now to not have to upgrade for a while. I hate having to buy a new rig every time a new game comes out that I want to be able to play in a great resolution (like Dragon Age: Origins).
Should I go for an i7? What would be the most future-proof, a 1156 socket cpu or a 1366. Any help would be apprecitated!
APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: This week (unless prices are getting ready to drop or a new updated technology is about to arrive)
BUDGET RANGE: $1,200 - $1,500 / After Rebates
SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming, internet, office
PARTS NOT REQUIRED: monitor, speakers
PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: would like to get everything at one or two places COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: USA
PARTS PREFERENCES: The most supported and most future proof
OVERCLOCKING:Maybe SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe
MONITOR RESOLUTION: I have an Acer P241w (1920x1200 WUXGA)
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: will need Windows 7 too. This will go on my desktop and the tower needs to be less than 21" tall. I need an integrated flash memory reader (8-in1?). I really want to play Dragon Age: Origins in the highest resolution if possible. I need a gaming keyboard and mouse too. I would like it to be relatively quiet, and maybe have a side window with the lights like the [url=Velocity Micro][/url].
To OP: Get a razer mouse, they are the best gaming mouse. Get a 5850 video card. Get an antec 900 case, better cooling and more space. Get this RAM instead it's 1333mhz 7-7-7-18 for $134.99. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231230 jbakerlent's RAM is 1600mhz 7-7-7-24 for $173.99 which is expensive. the performance between the two would be very similar anyways so go for the cheaper solution
The rest of jbakerlent's build looks good, so follow it.
To jbakerlent: you said "Welcome to the forum. 1366 is the most future proof (although that's about the only advantage it has)." really? that's the only advantage? what about x16 x16 performs better than x8 x8
Message edited by overshocks on 11-01-2009 at 03:13:34 AM
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Thanks for the catch on the RAM, I didn't notice the price just went up. If you go for the 5850 (which is a great option) then you'll need this PSU for crossfire (since you said maybe to crossfire). Antec TruePower New TP-750 750W Continuous Power http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817371025
Edit: @ overshocks: Really the x16/x16 does not provide much of a performance boost over x8/x8 even with crossfired 5870s (some, but not enough to justify it over the 1156). Here's my list of reasons why I prefer 1156
1. 860's frequency is higher 2. 860's turbo mode is far greater 3. 860's TDP is far lower 4. 860's intel specified supported ram frequency is higher 5. 860's overall price is far lower 6. Initial very high price of gulftown cpus 7. Lack of compelling need for 16x/16x crossfire 8. Limited benefit of triple channel ram
Message edited by jbakerlent on 11-01-2009 at 03:24:32 AM
x16 x16 does offer a little performance gain though, it'll offer more in the future when cards are faster, but not much at this moment.
Also, you don't need a 750W psu for 2x5850. 600W is enough, that's if you can find 4 x 6-pin connectors
Overall, good build for the OP.
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Can you please recommend me a 600W PSU with 4x 6-pin connectors? I do not want to use adapters/splitters to do the job. Cheers.
Google it.
Remember I said, "600W is enough, that's if you can find 4 x 6-pin connectors "
Nice try.
Message edited by overshocks on 11-01-2009 at 06:59:19 AM
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Kind of expensive, but it is excellent quality and modular as well.
Edit: @Daggs, you are correct about AM3, I just recommended the 1366 because the OP mentioned i7 in his post and it fit within his budget.
actually, he asked should he go i7, thought the i7 is better than any amd cpu, still don't throw away the competition, remember, without competition, cpu prices will sky rocket.
OK, so here is my "wish-list" for you to check out:
Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail $ 99.99 ASUS P6T SE LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail $209.99 ASUS EAH5850/G/2DIS/1GD5 Radeon HD 5850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express $289.99 Antec TruePower New TP-750 750W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.3 $114.95 Intel Core i7-920 Bloomfield 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor $288.99 G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Triple Channel Kit Memory $134.99 SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive $ 79.99 ****OUT OF STOCK**** SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive $ 49.99 SAMSUNG CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S223C - OEM $ 25.99 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM $106.99 Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM $ 6.99 COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7 compatible $ 29.88 ****OUT OF STOCK**** Rosewill RTK-001 Premium Anti-Static Wrist Strap - Retail $ 3.99
$1,442.82
Don't I need an audio card or something or is this integral with something else? Do I need any cables or do they come with the components? Is there another hard drive and cooler that are as good as the ones listed above (out of stock)? Or should I look at another retailer for this stuff? Are there any promo codes or coupon codes for Tom's? Anything else I might be forgetting?
Thanks for all of your help!
Message edited by dwane_16 on 11-01-2009 at 03:15:25 PM
Kind of expensive, but it is excellent quality and modular as well.
Edit: @Daggs, you are correct about AM3, I just recommended the 1366 because the OP mentioned i7 in his post and it fit within his budget.
great find man.
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3870x2, p5k/epu
750watts psu, antec 900
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------------------------------You can select me as Best Answer e6400 oc'd 3.2ghz,CCF cooler
3870x2, p5k/epu
750watts psu, antec 900
Reply to overshocks
------------------------------You can select me as Best Answer e6400 oc'd 3.2ghz,CCF cooler
3870x2, p5k/epu
750watts psu, antec 900
Reply to overshocks
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive $ 49.99"
^wrong price.
Overshocks, I can't find the price you are referring to. Are you sure you aren't thinking of a 500GB drive? Can you provide a link to your price? Thanks for the combo find too!
Also, should I wait a month for the 212 cooler, find a substitute or try to find it somewhere else?
It looks like the mobo has some very negative reviews. Any other suggestions that will work?
I also just realized that I will need an ethernet adapter card too, any suggestions (I have Verizon High Speed)?
Thanks!
Message edited by dwane_16 on 11-01-2009 at 06:36:59 PM
Mobo: the mobo you picked doesn't support sli. do you want a mobo that overclocks well or what features are you looking for?
by the way, don't trust newegg reviews, because most of them aren't pro builders and they complain about small things that they messed up on.
heatsink: just get the 212 cooler it's good at it's price beats many competitors, also you can wait for it or just buy it off from another site.
don't know about ethernet adapter. why you need one?
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Mobo: the mobo you picked doesn't support sli. do you want a mobo that overclocks well or what features are you looking for?
by the way, don't trust newegg reviews, because most of them aren't pro builders and they complain about small things that they messed up on.
heatsink: just get the 212 cooler it's good at it's price beats many competitors, also you can wait for it or just buy it off from another site.
don't know about ethernet adapter. why you need one?
Overshocks,
I thought I needed an ethernet adapter to connect to the internet, or do they come with the mobo or case?
I don't know what I need in a mobo. I picked the one that jbakerlent suggested. Overclocking sounds fine to me, but I don't know how to do it. What is another mobo that will work well with my set-up and be the most "future-proof"?
------------------------------You can select me as Best Answer e6400 oc'd 3.2ghz,CCF cooler
3870x2, p5k/epu
750watts psu, antec 900
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