I'm looking to build a quiet gaming system with longevity in mind. I have never build a computer from scratch, but I'm comfortable swapping out / adding components to existing machines. I clearly have a few days worth of reading to do to get up to speed on all the different options, but here is the game plan and questions I've got so far:
APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: asap, most likely within the week
BUDGET RANGE: Probably 1000-1500 after rebates (see question below)
SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming, movies / media center, work (I'm assuming any gaming rig will cover my work needs)
PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Keyboard, mouse, speakers, monitor (have a loaner 1680x1050 for a few months, then I might have to replace)
PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: anything reliable newegg, tigerdirect seem popular (no sales tax in NJ a definite plus)
COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: NJ-USA
PARTS PREFERENCES: none
OVERCLOCKING: Yes (if I'm going to relearn this stuff, might as well do it right)
SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Yes
MONITOR RESOLUTION: currently 1680x1050, will likely upgrade to a 1920x1080 or 1920x1200 in the near future
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: prefer quiet machine with a decent upgrade path in the future
PLAN:
x58 motherboard with a Intel core i7 (not sure which one) and a large RAM capacity. Hopefully, when this current build starts showing its age, I can upgrade to gulftown or whatever the best chip is for the platform, max out the ram, and update the video cards for a decent refresh that is relatively cheap once intel moves on to another architecture, DDR-4, etc.
Questions:
In terms of price, how much extra bang for the buck to get moving the price range around...ie sub-1k, 1-1.5k, 1.5-2k, etc. I'm definitely not going above $2,000 but if I can save a bit without much of a performance hit or if a few hundred bucks will get me a lot more longevity, I have some flexibility with price.
I will hopefully start posting parts later today once I get a bit more reading done.
Thanks in advance for any help, it is much appreciated.
If you are going with an x58/socket 1366 motherboard, go with the i7 920 CPU. The others are more expensive with no real benefit as they overclock about the same.
For gaming just get a 6GB (3x2GB) DDR3 low voltage (1.5-1.65) RAM kit with CL7 timing. More RAM will not make your gaming faster (might even slow it down).
The graphics cards you want to look at are the 5770, 5850 and 5870. The 5850 is the best performance/price option. Get a motherboard that has two x16 PCIE slots so that you can add a second in the future if you want a graphics power boost.
A good quality Antec or Corsair 750W PSU with four 6pin PCIE power cables is also necessary to run 2 graphics cards in the future.
For cases look at the Coolermaster HAF 922, Antec 900, Antec 902, Coolermaster CM690 and Antec 300 illusion. All have good airflow to keep your system cool.
Message edited by dndhatcher on 11-02-2009 at 07:54:49 PM
I know you think you'll be able to upgrade, but in reality I wouldn't count on anything you buy today to be worth upgrading in say 2 years. New things will come out that will make whatever technology you use today obsolete.
For example in about 18 months pcie-3.0 is supposed to come out, so in two years, you'll be able to buy motherboard\graphics combos that just because of pcie-3.0 will be twice as fast as anything out today. USB 3.0 and 6 GB/s SATA are other things.
I think about $1k is where you start to get diminished returns. I would look at the p55 chipset instead of the x58. You get more bang for the buck. x58 gives you tri-channel memory, but everything I read says you won't notice much difference. Also, newer p55 boards have 2 pcie 16x slots, so you can double up your graphics card the same as a x58 system. That being said, choosing x58 is a good choice also.
If you have access to a MicroCenter, I would get the processor from them. They're by far the cheapest for processors.
As I understand it, P55 motherboards cant possibly have two x16 PCIE slots. The 1156 socket CPUs dont have enough channels to support it.
That's true. A P55 motherboard would have to use a third-party chip to add support for two full-speed PCI-E 16x lanes. It's not a big deal, though, since the latest benchmarks show very little speed difference between 16x crossfire and 8x crossfire.
That's either a typo or they're using a third-party chip. The P55 does not have enough lanes to drive two 16x PCI-E slots on its own. It's a limitation of the actual chipset.
The board may have two PCIE 2.0 x16 slots, but they both run in x8 mode with two graphics cards installed. Ive seen that configuration on lots of motherboards.
The PCIE slots on that motherboard are 2 different colors, thats a cue that they are not going to both run at x16.