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What card to get with a 300 watt power supply?

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November 12, 2009 5:53:49 PM

Hello, I am currently looking to upgrade my nVidia 8300 128 MB GS card. I am using a dell inspiron 530 d. not the slim kind either.

Dell recommends the nVidia 9500 GT, however other people say that the ATI Radeon 4670 is a better card and wouldn't blow the mother board and power supply either? :heink: 

So how in the world would I know which one to go with? The 4670 says it is recommended to have a 400 watt or better power supply while the 9500 GT is 350 watt.
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November 12, 2009 6:15:30 PM

Dell famously underrates their powersupplies, and the HD4670 merely sips power, you'll be totally, completely fine with one.
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November 12, 2009 6:19:53 PM

OK. I thought it was a 350 watt power supply, however I checked and it is a 300 watt (Just in case you didn't see my edit the post).

it is a Bestec 300 watt. (ATX-0300D ?)
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November 12, 2009 6:21:55 PM

BTW: (I guess it doesn't matter) I'm in the USA, it seems I was sent to the UK forums :o 
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November 12, 2009 6:22:22 PM

4670 does not require any extra power connectors. I think you will be ok with it. But that is probably the most GPU you can get for your system.
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November 12, 2009 6:24:15 PM

jay2tall said:
4670 does not require any extra power connectors. I think you will be ok with it. But that is probably the most GPU you can get for your system.


Would I be any "safer" in buying a 4650 instead of a 4670?
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November 12, 2009 6:31:02 PM

Right now I'd still say you're fine, as long as it's the PSU Dell supplied and not a replacement.
And yes, you'd be safer with the less demanding card, particularly if the system is several years old because the PSU tends to lose efficiency as it ages.
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November 12, 2009 6:36:35 PM

coozie7 said:
Right now I'd still say you're fine, as long as it's the PSU Dell supplied and not a replacement.
And yes, you'd be safer with the less demanding card, particularly if the system is several years old because the PSU tends to lose efficiency as it ages.


It's one they supplied 2 years ago now when I bought the system.

However, I returned the first system they sent me (it came broke) and got a replacement. So I am still assuming it was sent "new".
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November 12, 2009 6:44:23 PM

^ H*** yes! I could play both on my rig with a 7800GTX 256Mb card and it could do both at 1920X1200 no problems at all! Just be sure to get the GDDR3 version of the card, see here for why:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/best-graphics-card,review...
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November 12, 2009 6:56:45 PM

I thought you had the NON slim machine? That is a small form factor card.
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November 12, 2009 7:01:47 PM

jay2tall said:
I thought you had the NON slim machine? That is a small form factor card.


That's correct. Hm, can you recommend a card for me? The current card is about 7 inches.
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November 12, 2009 9:48:02 PM



OK. Tech for dell says I need a better wattage, sales for dell says I don't.. explain that lol.

Also it still says "System Requirements 400 Watt or greater power supply (550 Watt for ATI CrossFireX technology in dual mode) is recommended" :??: 
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November 12, 2009 10:46:12 PM

what are the ideas on a nVidia 9400 GT? is it crap too ?
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November 12, 2009 11:16:51 PM

jay2tall said:
In the intro thread you said that Dell recommends a 9500GT. A 4670 uses less power than a 9500gt at idle and roughly the same at load.

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3405&p=9



nvidia's "help me select" said for me to go with 9400 GT, GT 240 , GT 220 , 8500 GT , or the current card I already have with a 300 watt.
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November 12, 2009 11:44:54 PM

From what I know here is the order of performance 4650<9500GT<GT220<4670

I believe the GT220 does draw slightly under what the 4670 does. It would be an option if it made you feel better.
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November 13, 2009 4:11:41 AM

jay2tall said:
From what I know here is the order of performance 4650<9500GT<GT220<4670

I believe the GT220 does draw slightly under what the 4670 does. It would be an option if it made you feel better.


How about the Radeon 3650 ? It's only 300 Wattage recommended also? It seems it can run Half-Life2:Episode 2 good from what I took a look at.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or
http://www.buydig.com/shop/product.aspx?omid=125&utm_id... ?
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November 13, 2009 4:28:48 AM

i just bought a 4770 & it worked flawlessly with dell 305w psu
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November 13, 2009 4:56:11 AM

jay2tall said:
From what I know here is the order of performance 4650<9500GT<GT220<4670

I believe the GT220 does draw slightly under what the 4670 does. It would be an option if it made you feel better.


The 9500 GT is only better (and only marginally so) if it is a GDDR3 variant and the 4650 is a DDR2, otherwise the 4650 beats the 9500 GT (again, only marginally).

I recommend an HD 4670. Its the best performance for the money, and its low power so it'll work on your system.
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November 13, 2009 10:20:14 AM

pepperman said:
The 9500 GT is only better (and only marginally so) if it is a GDDR3 variant and the 4650 is a DDR2, otherwise the 4650 beats the 9500 GT (again, only marginally).

I recommend an HD 4670. Its the best performance for the money, and its low power so it'll work on your system.


if I was going to spend the extra money to upgrade the power supply, would i be looking at a 400 or 500 watt ?
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November 13, 2009 2:53:26 PM

Name141 said:
if I was going to spend the extra money to upgrade the power supply, would i be looking at a 400 or 500 watt ?


Depends on which card you want.
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November 13, 2009 3:15:04 PM

pepperman said:
Depends on which card you want.


4670.
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November 13, 2009 3:31:54 PM

You should be fine with your current psu; if you want to be absolutely sure, you can list your full system specs (cpu, RAM, # HDD's, etc.) and I can tell you for sure.
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November 13, 2009 4:13:29 PM

pepperman said:
You should be fine with your current psu; if you want to be absolutely sure, you can list your full system specs (cpu, RAM, # HDD's, etc.) and I can tell you for sure.


Dell has told me that putting in another PSU would be a big no no. That it is not recommended to install a higher wattage PSU on this system.

So with that said, they gave me the options of a 4350 HD, and the 4650.

Then they went on to say that http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/Gaming_Vide... would work, it is is a 400 watt recommended one..

How confusing this is getting :fou: 
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November 13, 2009 5:19:53 PM

^There trying to make you buy parts through the dell store. If a low power 9800 GT will work, I bet an HD 4670 would work too.

Edit: bet*
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November 13, 2009 6:12:07 PM

I have the 4670, and have no problem running fallout on high setting. I would strongly recommend it, you should have no problem with that power supply.
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November 20, 2009 3:15:33 AM

What is the wattage difference than what I have now ? The 8300 GS ? I think it pulls 19 watts is all.
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November 20, 2009 3:28:17 AM

The wattage difference is around 30 Watts; if Dell recommends a 9500 GT, your psu will support a 4670.
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