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November 13, 2009 1:20:59 AM

I keep checking newegg and its always out of stock! I had my eyes on the Asus and Sapphire ones.... now both are DEACTIVATED! ..Why is that, now the only ones left are from brands that I've never heard of... weird. Anyone have some advice on how to get a good 5870 from a trusted site and brand?

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November 13, 2009 1:34:34 AM

ebay, just got my 2 about 1/2 hour ago and just testing them out now.
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November 13, 2009 1:41:33 AM

Fantasy Land.
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November 13, 2009 1:42:10 AM

I really don't like ebay. I just don't understand why all these cards are getting deactivated. First it says ETA: 11/16/09 and I get excited, then the next day... deactivated... The video card is the only part remaining for my build.. so im getting on edge here.
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November 13, 2009 1:56:44 AM

LIMITED SUPPLY.

you're gonna be waiting some time. Best thing to do is sign up for an auto notify, then buy the card as soon as you can before someone else does ^_^.
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November 13, 2009 2:14:53 AM

You gotta be persistent. I checked e-tailers about once every two hours while on the PC either at work or home for about 8 days.

I placed my order for a HD 5850 @ newegg at around 8pm on a Thursday night.
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November 13, 2009 2:15:10 AM

I had 2 opportunities in one week to get either a 5850 or a 5870. I passed them both up. I regretted it because they dried up quick. I set my sights on a 5850 and kept a bookmark right to the 5850's on newegg's site. I checked every 5 minutes for the length of time I was on the net that work didn't interfere. 2 weeks ago I hit the button and there was one there. I clicked on put in cart and ordered right away. Prior to this I had one in the cart on 2 different occasions and fiddled around to read reviews or to look at other stuff. When I went back it was no longer available. So I say know what you want, Select a couple of alternatives and when you see it buy it. Check very often. They've been showing up on a "more" regular basis that just a short while ago.... but still hard to find if you know what I mean.
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November 13, 2009 2:19:00 AM

heroofspirits said:
ebay, just got my 2 about 1/2 hour ago and just testing them out now.



For how much?? eBay prices on that card are insanely high.... :fou: 
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November 13, 2009 12:46:13 PM

I got the only VisionTek 5870 to be seen on Newegg. You'll need to refresh the actual item pages as the search results lag about 30-45 minutes behind actual stock. What this means is, it'll say Auto-Notify when it's actually there, or Add To Cart when it's already sold out. The item's page however will always be correct.

I got lucky with mine using an auto refresh firefox plugin and saw it pop up on the search. New item meant no one would've been refreshing its page.

In any event, it -really- doesn't matter what brand you buy aside from warranties. Practically every single 5800 card out there right now is going to be the ATI reference card. Maybe a cool sticker thrown on it, but no difference. (VisionTek doesn't put a gaudy sticker on, woot.) There are 2 5870s which have custom cooling, but those are the exceptions to the rule.

Best bet would be to have: Search pages, item pages, zipzoomfly, Amazon, and MWAVE on autorefresh from ~9am->2pm EST (Amazon could go on indefinitely, I had seen 5870s from less than reputable sites pop up at 4am).

An edit about auto-notify: I had seen a Power Color 5870 pop up once on its item page, and even added it to my cart. But I stupidly decided to contact Newegg chat to see if it was really available.(First time I encountered the search vs. item page lag) Before I even got to speak with the rep, it was gone. Never did I even receive an e-mail for the auto-notify. You may get one sometimes, but don't rely on it.
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November 15, 2009 8:40:59 AM

MARSOC_Operator said:
For how much?? eBay prices on that card are insanely high.... :fou: 

including postage and handling of 15 each card, bout 1000
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November 15, 2009 9:08:47 PM

It is better that you wait because the delay was caused by TSMC's 40nm GPU yield issue and TSMC is still trying to fix it. Getting it now then you risk to get the ones might still be affected by TSMC's 40nm yield issue...

This issue would delay both NVIDIA GT300 and ATI Radeon HD 5000 series...
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November 15, 2009 9:37:53 PM

Techno-boy said:
It is better that you wait because the delay was caused by TSMC's 40nm GPU yield issue and TSMC is still trying to fix it. Getting it now then you risk to get the ones might still be affected by TSMC's 40nm yield issue...

This issue would delay both NVIDIA GT300 and ATI Radeon HD 5000 series...

Woah... whats this all about? Theres a recall or defect with these cards?
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November 15, 2009 9:39:44 PM

No its not a recall. Check my new thread for more details. :) 
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November 15, 2009 9:57:29 PM

Kasceis said:
Woah... whats this all about? Theres a recall or defect with these cards?


From what I understood, the reason why ATI did released some Radeon HD 5000 series in September is because back in May/June 2009, TSMC, the Taiwanese semiconductor company that makes 40nm GPU for both NVIDIA and ATI did announced that they successfully fixed the 40nm yield issue but later, in October, this 40nm yield problem reappeared again or still persist so this is why ATI stop releasing more 40nm DX 11 video cards and there is the delayment. Maybe TSMC would successfully fix this problem by Christmas. :ouch: 

Old news, saying that TSMC already fixed this problem:
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2009/06/03/tsmc-4...

But later, this problem re-occured again:
http://pchardwareblips.dailyradar.com/story/tsmc-40nm-y...

http://www.congoo.com/news/2009October31/TSMC-Facing-Yi...


So maybe yes that these early 40nm GPU cards are already kinda defected to begin with...
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November 17, 2009 3:44:49 AM

jennyh said:
No its not a recall. Check my new thread for more details. :) 

Link for the thread?
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November 17, 2009 12:16:20 PM

This is all smoke and mirror, artifical shortage created to raise prices. If the first batch of 40nm were bad a recall would have been done allready.
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November 17, 2009 12:26:02 PM

maximiza said:
This is all smoke and mirror, artifical shortage created to raise prices. If the first batch of 40nm were bad a recall would have been done allready.


/facepalm

/tin foil hat


But you are right, what I learned in bussiness 101 was that the best way to make more money is to not let anyone buy your product for months at a time...
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November 17, 2009 12:34:24 PM

Unless they are selling the cards at a loss, in a dirty attempt to hurt Nvidia. in that case, selling more cards would only cost more money. Selling just enough to keep the gen-pop from freaking out would be in order, if that were the case.
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November 17, 2009 1:24:29 PM

heroofspirits said:
including postage and handling of 15 each card, bout 1000


WTF!!!! I think id rather wait for them to come out on ebuyer!
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November 17, 2009 8:13:15 PM

ATI could not have picked the worse time to release thier 5XXX series. If this TSMC issue is not resolved ASAP it will just keep hurting sales and the fact that it gives Nvidia more headroom for Fermi. More n more users are buying 4XXX and 2XX series due to the shortage. And I bet there won't be any 5850's or 5870's ready for black friday either :( 
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November 17, 2009 8:49:13 PM

if your mobo supports CF you can always pick up a pair of 5770's.... Basically the same as a 5870 performance wise....

btw, that Diamond 5870 didn't even last 30 seconds =)
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November 18, 2009 9:14:57 PM

Wow... I just got really excited.. I saw a Sapphire 5870 in stock at newegg just now, instantly added it to my cart and went to checkout, only to have it be removed due to limited stock being out... I was too late!!

I have ALL of my parts at home ready(all new including mouse/keyboard/speakers/monitor)... ALL I need now is a video card, this is driving me crazy!
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November 18, 2009 10:13:04 PM

Today I have seen a lot of availability on 5850, 5870, and 5970 cards at Newegg.

I had a 5970 on earlier and decided that I didn't want to mess with the issues of beta drivers (the Xfire/Eyefinity thing)

I had an order in for one 5870 and realized it was a waterblock and cancelled, then I was able to get a Sapphire 5850. Just now I was back on and was able to order the same XFX 5870 card that Kasc bought.

My Nec DP monitor came in today, so hopefully I will get the 5870 Friday and be good to go. Will end up with a spare 5850, but I can sell that easily enough.

The NEC ea231wmi is an awesome monitor and has a really nice stand. Not as cheap as the Samsung 2343s I am pairing with it though. Its definitely going to be the "main" monitor in the array.
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November 18, 2009 10:50:50 PM

Yep, everything is sold out now, man do I feel lucky! They did have a lot in stock today it seems, but sure how longs the shipments are gonna keep coming though, I'm just glad I got mine!

Btw, I just got my monitor. Samsung XL2370, its awesome! LED backlite!
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November 18, 2009 11:01:57 PM

Dang, price is keep going up for 5870, i am kinda glad i was able to get it when it was 399.
We definitely need Nvidia to come through with Fermi soon or price will keep heading north.
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November 18, 2009 11:06:34 PM

XFX is a great brand name they are one of a few companies that warrent overclocking and after market coolers in their stock warrenty and have a double lifetime warranty :o 
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November 18, 2009 11:14:35 PM

Kasceis said:
Yep, everything is sold out now, man do I feel lucky! They did have a lot in stock today it seems, but sure how longs the shipments are gonna keep coming though, I'm just glad I got mine!

Btw, I just got my monitor. Samsung XL2370, its awesome! LED backlite!


I was just back on site looking for a DP cable (the only cable that didn't come with the NEC) and found both a Diamond 5870 and a Sapphire 5970 back in stock -- I suspect some of these are failed orders being returned to inventory.

I suspect with patience and a bit of page refreshing you can get what you want right now. Its a lot better today than last weekend through yesterday, for sure.
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November 18, 2009 11:18:35 PM

JJLD said:
Dang, price is keep going up for 5870, i am kinda glad i was able to get it when it was 399.
We definitely need Nvidia to come through with Fermi soon or price will keep heading north.


Its not really something you can blame on ATI... there are some boards that are STILL priced at $399, they just sell out a lot faster. Usually the slightly higher card have tweaked speeds or inclue "free" software.

It looks like Newegg just added the Gigabyte and Diamond 5970s, as well at the MSRP of $599. (both in stock ATM)

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November 18, 2009 11:22:55 PM

redwolfexr said:
Its not really something you can blame on ATI... there are some boards that are STILL priced at $399, they just sell out a lot faster. Usually the slightly higher card have tweaked speeds or inclue "free" software.

It looks like Newegg just added the Gigabyte and Diamond 5970s, as well at the MSRP of $599. (both in stock ATM)


Well this is gonna be a hard round of "Convince the rents that this will be a well spent 600$" before I can manage to bag one of these bad boys
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November 18, 2009 11:24:56 PM

XFX will give you double lifetime warranty only if you are a customer living in North America but if you live in Europe or Asia then you would not get a double lifetime warranty so it depends on where you live.
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November 18, 2009 11:35:12 PM

Aloid said:
Well this is gonna be a hard round of "Convince the rents that this will be a well spent 600$" before I can manage to bag one of these bad boys

Too late, SOLD OUT already! :pt1cable: 
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November 19, 2009 12:26:36 AM

Kasceis said:
Too late, SOLD OUT already! :pt1cable: 


Ya I tried all day to convince them but no luck... :cry:  Mabye memory express will get a few and I can sneak one home... :whistle: 
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November 19, 2009 12:47:53 AM

it's crazy how many are trying to get their hands on a 5870 just to re-sell it on e-bay....
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November 19, 2009 1:09:31 AM

Quick question here. Should I run a HDMI cable from the video card to my monitor or should I use DVI? Which is better for gaming/movies on a monitor?

Here is my monitor: Samsung SyncMaster XL2370
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November 19, 2009 1:21:31 AM

Kasceis said:
Quick question here. Should I run a HDMI cable from the video card to my monitor or should I use DVI? Which is better for gaming/movies on a monitor?

Here is my monitor: Samsung SyncMaster XL2370


There isn't really any difference betwen HDMI and DVI, the only difference is that HDMI carries sound as part of the spec. There is a paper difference in whether HDMI can carry a DualLink signal (since HDMI technically is only rated to 1920x1200 or something like that.) In reality they both go higher since its very common to adapt them back and forth.

Actually I am somewhat surprised at how few of these are getting onto ebay. They sell very quick, but the history doesn't show that many compared to the demand. (was looking because I will have a spare 5850 in a few days since I scored a 5870 a few hours later)

There have been a pretty decent number of 5970s all day, so its probably not going to be in as short a supply. We know where all the 5870 chips were going...
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November 19, 2009 1:30:06 AM

So it doesn't matter which one I use, HDMI or DVI?

Also, why can't you just send the 5850 back to newegg unopened for a refund?
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November 19, 2009 1:58:26 AM

Math. I would be out shipping both ways.

If I sell it I can charge what I paid including shipping and then add shipping to the winner. (I will likely add $50 to invoice price and include "free" shipping in that -- which covers Paypal fees too)

:) 

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