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November 7, 2009 5:41:12 PM

Well ive got a 5850 on backorder, as you all know the availability isnt very good. I know i should get mine in december. My question now is...if i should wait for the 5850 at $275 or buy 2x 5770's and run crossfirex with them. I know most of my problem here is waiting, i just put togther my new i7 system and its killing me just sitting there without me being able to use it. Here are my pros and cons.

Pros-
-I like the idea of crossfirex
-ive seen where 2x 5770s outperform a 5850
-no wait time

Cons-
-a little more expensive for 2x 5770s
-even though the 2x 5770s outperform the 5850, i can always save up and buy another in a few months which would dominate 2x5770s
-im more of an enthusiast/ oc'er i play games but none that really require a whole bunch of cpu poewr (then again ive never had a pc worth going and buying the higher end games)
- 1 to 2 month wait time for one 5850

My new monitors res. is 2048 x 1152, i dont know if the 2x 5770s can handle that high of a res well. Ive seen reviews where the 2x5770s were decent fps in different games, but 3x5770s were really good. The problem with 3x is the cost and the fact that usually the cpu will be the bottleneck and they wont perform like they should. Any ideas?

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November 7, 2009 5:43:08 PM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ETA of tomm!@!
Where is your backorder from, jabib?
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November 7, 2009 5:44:45 PM

2x HD 5770s would outperform an HD 5850, but I'd choose a single GPU solution, over two. In the future, if you need more power, just buy another HD 5850. Just be patient, there's a lot of us waiting for the HD 5850. It'll be worth it, though :D 
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November 7, 2009 5:52:07 PM

ok thanks, and wow im excited for tomorrow! Btw can anyone break down the different brands for me? pros and cons of em? i went with xfx and at amazon.com
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November 7, 2009 5:55:36 PM

admilitaryman said:
ok thanks, and wow im excited for tomorrow! Btw can anyone break down the different brands for me? pros and cons of em? i went with xfx and at amazon.com


At this point, there's hardly any difference at all between them(of course, I read somewhere that Sapphire was releasing a Vapor-X model. It's also listed on their site).

Edit: The only real differences are the warranties and bundles.
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November 7, 2009 6:03:28 PM

Blah, i wonder when amazon's gonna come through with the xfx 5850 :S
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November 7, 2009 6:10:05 PM

admilitaryman said:
Blah, i wonder when amazon's gonna come through with the xfx 5850 :S


I ordered one today on back-order on another site. The wait doesn't bother me, it would take two weeks to ship to where I live anyways :sweat:  .
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November 7, 2009 7:19:01 PM

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-im more of an enthusiast/ oc'er i play games but none that really require a whole bunch of cpu poewr (then again ive never had a pc worth going and buying the higher end games)
- 1 to 2 month wait time for one 5850


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My new monitors res. is 2048 x 1152
@ that rez i would get a HD 5870 now and xfire latter :)  http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?Product...


ewiz http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?p=AT-5870_1G&c=fr&pid=02...

anyways enthusiasts dont care about money they want the best of the best :)  @ that rez thats like a F-16 without a wing :p 
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November 8, 2009 12:00:48 AM

Anyone else think i should just go for the 5870 at a rest of 2048 x 1152?

Lol niklas, nice Air Force analogy with that :p  Really put it into perspective for me. My delimma is, pay the $100 more (which ive already went wayy over what i was wanting to) or have some more fun and o/c the hell out of my (future) 5850 to match if not beat the 5870.
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November 8, 2009 12:21:35 AM

Those 5850's jumped up in price awfully quick.
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November 8, 2009 12:36:23 AM

I know, i wonder if its worth it to just go for the 5870s now? :S I hate delimmas.
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November 8, 2009 1:25:32 AM

one of the good things about xfx is their warranty, if you melt it into a puddle, it is under warranty, which would be good for you if you are going to oc the hell out of it
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November 8, 2009 2:46:05 AM

wsupduck said:
one of the good things about xfx is their warranty, if you melt it into a puddle, it is under warranty, which would be good for you if you are going to oc the hell out of it


That's exactly right. To add to that thought. XFX will even allow you to replace the stock heat-sink with an aftermarket heat-sink and it'll still be under warranty. So, for what it's worth, I think you've made the right choice by choosing XFX.
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November 8, 2009 2:49:21 AM

hell i bet they would still warranty it if you ran it in a bowl of water because you thought it would run cooler
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November 8, 2009 2:55:39 AM

anyone think I'll bottleneck 2 hd4890's in crossfire with a amd 965x4
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November 8, 2009 3:01:17 AM

well, hmm. sounds like i am going to be waiting for a while then. I was thinking of picking up a sapphire for around $25 more tomorrow if i can get my hands on it. Idk though, btw terribleteee, make your own post man, you'll get alot more responses.
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November 8, 2009 3:42:45 AM

Well by all means, if waiting isn't your thing, get the sapphire. Because, like mentioned before by Lolzololz, the only difference between sub-vendors is basically warranties and bundles (I'm going to add aesthetics to that list).
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November 8, 2009 4:14:57 AM

You got a bogy on your back!!! Pull back on the yoke hit full thrust let him slide by, come in from the top. Engage and pull the trigger on the HD 5870 sapphire 

I will tell uncle Sam to rape me more in taxes to pay for it :p 
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November 8, 2009 9:24:33 AM

^Niklas, i had to read that twice and once i did i laughed and my wife looked at me like i was crazy.

Rock, thank you, i just decided to quit being a baby and wait it out. I cant afford to pay anymore or else i would(Niklas) so waiting on my 5850 is about the best i can do. And i know i can get my 5850 oc'ed to 5870 speeds :) 
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November 9, 2009 1:47:38 AM

i was supprised to see the 4870s in crossfirex do so well..made me think of getting them..idk though..2x 4870s vs a 5850? no dx11..the 2x5750s or 5770s would be nice but idk..theyre a little more expensive.
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November 10, 2009 3:01:27 PM

An interesting question.

I've got a new PC on order, but it's being delayed because of the 5850 shortage. I'm debating on just downgrading to a 5770 and saving the $125 bucks.

I'm not an enthusiast per say and I'm only running games at 1600x1200.

I'm thinking that I get the 5770 now and it will do more than enough for me for 2 years and I can upgrade to a 5850 for real cheap or whatever else is the next big thing is in 2 years.

The concern I have is if the 128 bit bus is a real drawback and worth the possible extra month wait to get a 256 bus 5850.

I spend most of my time playing WoW, but I'm getting back into FPS's like CoD:Modern Warfare and I've got Bioware's latest: Dragon Age: Origin.

I want these games to be beautiful, near max settings. But since I'm not an enthusiast, I honestly don't care if shadows are maxed and I know shadows kill WoW graphical settings. At least, on my current GForce 7800 GTX 256MB. Would it be nice to have beautiful shadows? Sure, but it's not noticeable for me. I'd rather see far off into the distance than have super accurate shadows (I'm rather happy with the round blob under my WoW characters feet).

So, for you far more informed and experienced enthusiasts, would you recommend to me that the 5770 will be more than satisfying for me or do you suggest just sitting tight and waiting?

My other concern is that I want to try and resell my current PC in the Holiday season. Waiting could put me at the end of the shopping period.

I am going from a:

WinXP,
Pentium D 3 GHZ,
2 GB DDR2 RAM
256 GeForce 7800 GTX

to a

Win7,
Core i7 920,
4 GB DDR3 1333
[Video card]

I'm sure the CPU and RAM upgrades alone will show a nice improvement and having DX10 and DX11 capabilities.

I know a 5850 will be top notch, but I'm starting to wonder if the 5770 won't be just as good for me?

Advice?
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November 10, 2009 7:00:42 PM

5770 will still be a GREAT card just the 5850 will run games at HIGH quality, where the 5770 will only do like med quality.
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November 10, 2009 11:52:31 PM

I have a 5770 and can run the COD modern warfare demo at max settings smoothly. I also play DDO (pretty comparable to WoW in graphics reqs) at ultra high with 4xAA (at 8xAA it got choppy sometimes). Im doing this with a mediochre dual core Athlon 64x2 at 3.2GHz, Vista 64 ultimate, 4GB DDR2-800 RAM computer and a 22inch 1380x1050 monitor.
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November 11, 2009 1:51:08 AM

sonic-boom said:
5770 will still be a GREAT card just the 5850 will run games at HIGH quality, where the 5770 will only do like med quality.


I don't think that is the case. The games that are currently on the market will easily be played by a 5770 at high settings (look at dndhatcher's post). The 5850 is currently, except with the selections of some titles (Crysis), overkill for most games. However, it is substantially more "future-proof" than the 5770 in regards to power.
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November 11, 2009 3:38:19 AM

+2^ somehow got lucky and clicked the link today on newegg.com got the sapphire 5850 before the auto-nofity feature even emailed me
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November 11, 2009 1:44:59 PM

rockrunner2011 said:
I don't think that is the case. The games that are currently on the market will easily be played by a 5770 at high settings (look at dndhatcher's post). The 5850 is currently, except with the selections of some titles (Crysis), overkill for most games. However, it is substantially more "future-proof" than the 5770 in regards to power.

Yes, this is what I was thinking and debating.

If the 5770 is (give or take a couple frames) on par with a 4870, was the 4870 considered "med quality" for graphics cards when it came out?

It really is just too bad ATI's 40nm chips are having the yield problems where they're not getting the production going.

The 5770 is an attractive offer with the really low power consumption and price point. I'm just really turned off by it's 128bit bus.

I do appreciate the advice!
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November 11, 2009 3:24:29 PM

I installed Crysis last night. The 5770 plays Crysis Warhead really smoothly at 1380x1050 at medium resolution (and looks really good). It got a bit choppy at that resolution at high settings, but played high at a lower resolution fine. I think the higher resolution at medium settings looks better than lower resolution with high settings, though.
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November 11, 2009 9:47:45 PM

I play crysis warhead sometimes @ 1680x1050 DX9 mode on high not very high with 2x AA 40 - 60 FPS this is with the HD 5850
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February 20, 2010 9:38:16 AM

I was gonna go with the 5770 for my upcoming build. but i recently bought a Optoma HD 20 1080p projector with a 106" screen that im gonna use as a monitor too. I have the ps3 on it now and Cod MW2 looks sick. But can't wait till i can play on the pc again.
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March 5, 2010 5:03:32 AM

fozzyuw said:
An interesting question.

I've got a new PC on order, but it's being delayed because of the 5850 shortage. I'm debating on just downgrading to a 5770 and saving the $125 bucks.

I'm not an enthusiast per say and I'm only running games at 1600x1200.

I'm thinking that I get the 5770 now and it will do more than enough for me for 2 years and I can upgrade to a 5850 for real cheap or whatever else is the next big thing is in 2 years.

The concern I have is if the 128 bit bus is a real drawback and worth the possible extra month wait to get a 256 bus 5850.

I spend most of my time playing WoW, but I'm getting back into FPS's like CoD:Modern Warfare and I've got Bioware's latest: Dragon Age: Origin.

I want these games to be beautiful, near max settings. But since I'm not an enthusiast, I honestly don't care if shadows are maxed and I know shadows kill WoW graphical settings. At least, on my current GForce 7800 GTX 256MB. Would it be nice to have beautiful shadows? Sure, but it's not noticeable for me. I'd rather see far off into the distance than have super accurate shadows (I'm rather happy with the round blob under my WoW characters feet).

So, for you far more informed and experienced enthusiasts, would you recommend to me that the 5770 will be more than satisfying for me or do you suggest just sitting tight and waiting?

My other concern is that I want to try and resell my current PC in the Holiday season. Waiting could put me at the end of the shopping period.

I am going from a:

WinXP,
Pentium D 3 GHZ,
2 GB DDR2 RAM
256 GeForce 7800 GTX

to a

Win7,
Core i7 920,
4 GB DDR3 1333
[Video card]

I'm sure the CPU and RAM upgrades alone will show a nice improvement and having DX10 and DX11 capabilities.

I know a 5850 will be top notch, but I'm starting to wonder if the 5770 won't be just as good for me?

Advice?



Way to jack his thread :pfff: 
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