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a b K Overclocking
March 22, 2012 3:35:57 PM

anyone heard about them yet?

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a c 328 K Overclocking
March 22, 2012 3:47:22 PM

FrozenCPU has some EK's that are all out of stock- no one else seems to have any right now that I have found.

Maybe there are some from AquaComputer? Not sure.
a b K Overclocking
March 22, 2012 5:43:55 PM

The thing just came out today, so it might be a little while before blocks start appearing en masse. I want a 680 badly, and I'm glad I bought a uni block - only costs me $5 to upgrade my block :D 
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a c 78 K Overclocking
March 22, 2012 6:07:44 PM

hmm, i was thinking about the blocks on the nvidia cards...might just go for the hydrocopper evga cards when they come out - has a full cover block,you get compression fittings standard and ports on both sides. Plus its an all copper block from swiftech. so total, cost of GTX 680+waterblock=dunno, while an evga hydrocopper version costs equally the same.

:/  my opinion though.

and yeah - i want a GTX680 as well :) 
a b K Overclocking
March 22, 2012 6:46:55 PM

The Hydrocopper blocks have historically performed similarly to other blocks. They're not bad by any stretch of the imagination.
a c 328 K Overclocking
March 22, 2012 6:49:53 PM

They also pull a premium price.
a b K Overclocking
March 22, 2012 7:13:21 PM

rubix_1011 said:
They also pull a premium price.


True, but then again usually the hydrocoppers are single slot GPUs. The 680 isn't since it needs all 4 display connections.

I wonder how it's going to do in real tests with multiple displays. NVidia says you can game with 3 displays in Surround while running a 4th for internet/etc.
a c 328 K Overclocking
March 22, 2012 7:43:54 PM

A full load GPU often runs in excess of 70C or more. With watercooling, you can reduce this to around 40C. Watercooling isn't really a necessity- it's more of a hobby.
a b K Overclocking
March 22, 2012 9:13:42 PM



quite a bit of heat still.
a b K Overclocking
March 22, 2012 9:21:09 PM

I think it has some OC potential, but with temps like that you'd need water to keep them down enough to even try.

You'd also want LC in SLI - no way one of those cards won't overheat...
a c 328 K Overclocking
March 22, 2012 9:39:03 PM

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Moderating questionable language that is against forum rules (that a user chooses to agree upon when their account is created) is NOT a violation of freedom of speech. If you do not feel that the rules of the forum apply to you, then you can also choose not to post on these forums. This was discussed in a PM, but since you brought it out publicly, I will also publicly mention why it was edited. There was an instance of a disrespectful terminology used which could have just as simply have been replaced with different wording to achieve the exact same message.
a c 78 K Overclocking
March 22, 2012 9:57:17 PM

:pfff:  not again
a c 235 K Overclocking
March 23, 2012 12:28:03 PM

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Thing is why would you want to water cool the GTX 680 there is no point they are already cool and quite and water will not net anymore performance so ...


You will get more performance from any graphics card you water cool with a full coverage water block, load temperatures drop on an average of 40c leaving serious overclocking headroom.

The 480GTX in this review dropped 45c, from my own personal experience my 580GTX dropped 40C leaving plenty of safe overclocking headroom.

I may be the Black Sheep of water cooling here because I don't do it for looks, I do it for performance gains period, and you will get increased overclocking performance water cooling a 680GTX.
a c 235 K Overclocking
March 23, 2012 12:31:45 PM

robthatguyx said:
anyone heard about them yet?


The 680GTX just hit the market you need to allow the water block makers time to catch up, sometimes not always the first available will be the best performing block anyway.

There could be a certain amount of caution to see what EVGA does out of the gate, they did release the 580GTX reference cards in 2 flavors, with an integrated heat spreader and without an integrated heat spreader, so what will they do regarding the 680GTX?

My 2 cents! Ryan
a c 328 K Overclocking
March 23, 2012 12:34:06 PM

Graphics cards are one piece of hardware that benefit enormously from watercooling, especially if overclocking and/or volt modding to achieve even higher clocks. There is just something fascinating knowing that your video card(s) are pumping away at nearly full load (depending on application) and seeing that their temps are reading 40C when your buddy next to you could fry a burger on his 80C card.

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The 680GTX just hit the market you need to allow the water block makers time to catch up, sometimes not always the first available will be the best performing block anyway.

My 2 cents! Ryan


Agreed- they just released and you typically only see a couple blocks at first. You'll start to see several more in the next couple weeks, so don't worry. The GTX 680 appears to a card that should make a big splash for it's performance and price point.
a c 150 K Overclocking
March 23, 2012 6:03:57 PM

With watercooling we can expect overclocks of 1.3-1.4ghz
a c 328 K Overclocking
March 23, 2012 8:16:36 PM

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The GTX 680 is already clocked at over 1ghz stock it's not getting any faster on liquid period there is no room for improvement before the card hits the architectural limits it's not even about heat cause the sock cooling offers OCing head room galore but it just the physical limits 1ghz stock man that very very high already.


Please provide proof of your claims- this card has been out only 1 day. There isn't a lot of published information to support or negate your argument due to the fact theses GPUs were just released. Simply suggesting that something is or is not possible based on personal opinion is not a valid basis for debate.

With voltage modding, you can often reach higher limits of clock speeds, if you know what you are doing.

30-40 C drop in temps is really why I do it.
a c 78 K Overclocking
March 23, 2012 8:29:00 PM

@ rubix - i was just about to say that. All that bland blah blah about it without the rest of the board makers unique offerings.

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Simply suggesting that something is or is not possible based on personal opinion is not a valid basis for debate.
and a violation of Tom's rules - as this has to be verified or resulting in penalty (if my memory serves me well)

@ jetsons robot - read the google find above you :) 

turbo boost gives a small increment, however, evga has showcased its own power delivery ssytem and cooling method - meaning higher OC's than 100Mhz
a c 328 K Overclocking
March 23, 2012 8:29:28 PM

I would expect to see some thorough testing done with reports on performance of the stock cards. There will also be crops of forum testers that will volt mod the card and see any additional speed that can be had. Between volt mods and BIOS modding, you can coax more performance out of a stock card if you know what you are doing.
a b K Overclocking
March 23, 2012 8:35:53 PM

Quote:
Thing is why would you want to water cool the GTX 680 there is no point they are already cool and quite and water will not net anymore performance so ...


Some just like keeping their cards under a good block so they don't have to worry about cooling much at all or just bragging rights. However for a small few that actually do hardware mods to their cards this is about the only real solution for cooling. One of my favorite mods is where the pcb of another but older card is cut just to salvage the power vrm and use that to supplement the one of the modded card. EVGA has a board that they sell where one only has to mount and solder the connections.
a c 328 K Overclocking
March 23, 2012 8:54:15 PM

I'd like to reiterate- this is the watercooling forum. The reason members post here is because they choose to watercool components within their PC; not out of necessity. Please understand this cooling option is more of a hobby and advanced cooling choice for those who may wish to push hardware further than stock.

If you do not have any information to post on the thread subject and simply continue to respond with the intent of provoking an argument, this is classified as 'trolling' in the forum rules and is prohibited.
a c 78 K Overclocking
March 23, 2012 8:58:47 PM

12 year olds ... :pfff: 
a c 328 K Overclocking
March 23, 2012 9:06:13 PM

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Some cards do not need to be water cooled maybe OP was under the impression that GTX 680 needs to be water cooled and I saved him a few bucks ... and thanks for throwing the book at me real mature ;-)



This was your opinion of the matter, but did not ask the OP if this was the actual question, therefore not a valid basis for how you've worded your replies. The fact that the question was posed as a topic discussion seemed to imply the OP is looking for or interested in a waterblock for these cards.
a c 235 K Overclocking
March 24, 2012 12:26:26 AM

Haliburton Representative is no longer with us. Ryan
a c 235 K Overclocking
March 24, 2012 12:30:49 AM

rubix_1011 said:
FrozenCPU has some EK's that are all out of stock- no one else seems to have any right now that I have found.

Maybe there are some from AquaComputer? Not sure.


So you say EK is the first on the market! That's impressive.

The reference design pictures show no heat spreaders?
a c 328 K Overclocking
March 24, 2012 3:49:43 PM

It would appear so- now nVidia Kepler reference design isn't going to include IHS? Now I'm curious to see if the remainder of the GK cards are going to have the IHS or not. Interesting turn of events for nVidia cards as we've seen the 580's either with or w/o IHS (including yours, ryan, with one of each) :) 
a c 235 K Overclocking
March 25, 2012 2:27:06 PM

From my stock air cooled card testing the 580GTX without the heat spreader ran cooler than the card with the heat spreader, so I would imagine Nvidia also knows this very well, which is probably why they did it in the first place.

Having the 2 different cards to compare against each other, allowed a discovery very few, except Nvidia themselves are aware of, in the past no Nvidia cards I owned, came with heat spreaders on the GPU.

a b K Overclocking
March 25, 2012 4:58:33 PM

4Ryan6 said:
From my stock air cooled card testing the 580GTX without the heat spreader ran cooler than the card with the heat spreader, so I would imagine Nvidia also knows this very well, which is probably why they did it in the first place.

Having the 2 different cards to compare against each other, allowed a discovery very few, except Nvidia themselves are aware of, in the past no Nvidia cards I owned, came with heat spreaders on the GPU.


The problem with the IHS that nvidia always uses is hardly decent when it comes to it's surfaces being uneven and on the gpu side looks like the surface of the moon. The thermal compound they use is terrible, just replacing that improves temps by at least 3-5c. Third they do seam to be just too thick for proper thermal performance. A little thinner will reduce the delay before the heat makes it's way to the cooler. Each step causes a delay and a eventual build of up heat. :s Going without in most situations has proven that for the most part builds up heat instead of allowing to pass through as it should. If nvidia wasn't so cheap they would be doing what amd and intel do with their mid range and high end cpu(s) by using gold electroplate on the gpu side of ihs and using a metal based solder instead of low grade compound. I have pulled the ihs of intel and amd cpus in the past that didn't use solder and the thermal compound is very poor quality. At the edge of the die the compound feels like rubber while in the middle of the die seams more or less normal compound. It dries out very fast (low grade oil base).

In short nividia is just too damn cheap to make an ihs work as it should.
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