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November 8, 2009 12:48:33 AM

Hi all

I'm looking to build a new system that can run games like COD6:MW2, Battlefield Bad Company 2, Starcraft 2, UT3 at max. And maybe Crysis eventually (if I ever get bored of the other games).

Given that the Crytek 1 engine is so ahead of the curve, I heard that any DIY system that can run Crysis at max should be able to run any other game/engine until Crytek 2 engine comes out in 2012-2013. Is this true, and if so, how much would such a Crytek-worthy rig cost?

If the cost is >900$, I might be happy building a lesser system to play the other games I mentioned. They'd probably tide me over until 2012. By then, the hardware that can run Crytek stuff would be much cheaper. Does that sound like a sensible strategy to get the most gaming-for-the-buck?

Thanks!
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November 8, 2009 1:05:48 AM

This is my AM3 build:
Corsair X64 Extreme Series 64GB 2.5" SSD SATA 3Gbs
(297)
AMD Phenom II X4 Quad Core 965 3.40GHz 8MB Cache (AM3) - Black Edition
(290)
Asus M4A79XTD-EVO AMD Mainboard - 4x DDR3 / 6x Sata Raid / 1x IDE / Gigabit Lan / AM3
(170)
ANTEC NINE HUNDRED AND 2 ULTIMATE GAMING CASE
(90)
ASUS 24INCH BLACK LCD(1920x1080)
($260)
lOGITECH g15 gaming keyboard
($140)
razer copperhead precision gaming mouse
($80)
ATI Radeon 5870 1GB
($665)
Corsair TX-750 750W PSU
($200)
Corsair DDR3 4GB PC-12800/1600 (2x XMS3 2GB) CMX4GX3M2A1600C8 Ram
($200)
LG GH22NS50 SATA DVD Re-Writer (22x - Black)
($44)
Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 7200RPM 32MB SATA 3Gbs
($200)
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit DVD - OEM
($140)
I have been assured that this rig is nothing short of beastly, however costs $2750. In my research i have learnt that for a monster gaming rig, >$200 is required. i also have an i7 build that im debating on, but this is slightly cheaper, and the AMD 6 core cpu will be cheaper than the i9.

Hope ive helped. note that all money is in au dollars...
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November 8, 2009 4:28:48 AM

wow...so you're saying it costs >$2000 to build a system that will run Crysis on max settings?

like i said in my original post, i'm shooting for a <$900 system. if a cheapo system like that can play other games on max settings like COD6:MW2, battlefield bad company 2, starcraft 2, UT3...i would be more than happy. i can wait to play crysis. by the time i'd get bored with those games, the hardware needed to run Crysis would be cheaper than $2000.

do you have a recommended build for my specs?

thanks
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November 8, 2009 7:34:24 PM

Take note that Gameraddict’s currency is in Australian dollars not USD that is why his cost for that system is so high. I went through Newegg and found that the cost for his system is actually $1909 USD.

However if you don’t need the keyboard, mouse, monitor, OS; it comes to $1450. Additional saving can be gained by getting the Phenom II X4 955 CPU rather than the 965 ($20), and getting rid of that Corsair SSD for the OS ($240), new cost is down to $1190. Further savings can be gained by reusing old DVD drives and computer cases.

Gamer’s build minus the keyboard, monitor, mouse, OS, and SSD is a very good build and will give Crysis a good beating on high settings but not absolute max. I somewhat disagree that you need to spend $2000+ to max out Crysis, unless you include the cost of monitor/key/mouse and such. (most of which i keep for years and over many many computer builds)

Edit: please post your country of origin and if the $900 system includes things like keyboard and monitor.
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November 8, 2009 7:42:39 PM

To OP: your question is quite misleading..
crysis original on what dx9 or dx10?
crysis on max settings right on dx11 is "very high", max settings on dx9 is "high"..
at what resolution are you talking about here?
also do you mean "can run crysis at max settings" as in over 30 fps or 60fps...
max settings include AA?
which crysis are you talking about?

an i5 750 system with 2x5870 will run crysis original on max settings at 1920x1080 on DX10. that's around 1400USD
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November 9, 2009 2:06:07 AM

overshocks said:
To OP: your question is quite misleading..
crysis original on what dx9 or dx10?
crysis on max settings right on dx11 is "very high", max settings on dx9 is "high"..
at what resolution are you talking about here?
also do you mean "can run crysis at max settings" as in over 30 fps or 60fps...
max settings include AA?
which crysis are you talking about?

an i5 750 system with 2x5870 will run crysis original on max settings at 1920x1080 on DX10. that's around 1400USD


Sorry if I was not specific enough - I meant Crysis original on max settings at 40-60 FPS using DX10/11 at 1680 x 1050 (wide) or 1280x1024 (4:3). I guess we could toss anti-aliasing xn in for smoothness.

So it sounds like to run Crysis in it's full glory one would need to pay ~$1400 for a new system. I suppose I could occupy myself with other games (COD6:MW2, Battlefield Bad Company 2, UT3) that max-out with a mroe affordable DIY PC until 2012--when Crytek engine 2 comes out. By then the hardware for fully enjoying Crysis will be way cheaper?

To explain my confusion - I've never played Crysis before, plus I've had the same gaming system since 2004. The last new game I played was COD4 on low settings! It's time to build a new one. Btw, my country of origin is USA.

So what sort of specs would you guys recommend for a system that can run games like COD6:MW2, Battlefield Bad Company 2 on max settings at 40-60 fps?

Thanks
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November 9, 2009 2:13:05 AM

"So what sort of specs would you guys recommend for a system that can run games like COD6:MW2, Battlefield Bad Company 2 on max settings at 40-60 fps? "

at what resolution 1680x1050? and with AA on or not?


"So it sounds like to run Crysis in it's full glory one would need to pay ~$1400 for a new system. "

yes $1400 for 1920x1080 without monitor of course, just the PC

do you want a system for future proof that's why you are asking for max settings on crysis correct?

also you cannot have max settings on crysis with $900. you need to up your budget a bit.

for anything below $1000 it's usually an amd build...
for $1000+ it's usually an intel build..
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November 9, 2009 2:56:03 AM

overshocks said:
"So what sort of specs would you guys recommend for a system that can run games like COD6:MW2, Battlefield Bad Company 2 on max settings at 40-60 fps? "

at what resolution 1680x1050? and with AA on or not?

for anything below $1000 it's usually an amd build...
for $1000+ it's usually an intel build..


yes, i'd like my prospective system to play COD6:MW2, Battlefield Bad Company 2 likely at 1680x1050 or 1280x1024, with AA, at 40-60+ fps. i can wait for hardware to cheapen for Crysis, but i'd like a build that is future proof for ~3 years. AMD is fine btw. with the above, do you have any suggestions on a good build?

thanks!
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November 9, 2009 3:01:20 AM

i do have suggestions on a good build.

i suggest you wait till black friday and cyber monday because of your budget and you could save some money too..

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November 9, 2009 3:02:08 AM

Here's a build I've done for another person

NOTE: THIS BUILD HAS A MONITOR AND 5850 VIDEO CARD, SO USE IT AS A REFERENCE, ERASE THE MONITOR AND GET A LOWER VIDEO CARD LIKE 4870 OR 4890 BECAUSE YOU ARE RUNNING 1680X1050 OR 1280X1024 WITH AA ON

I only used newegg, but you can use other sites if you can find the same parts for cheaper.
Or if you can find better combos at newegg

Here's an i5 750 build with new monitor

>MOBO+RAM
30 dollar discount
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

>Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

>CPU

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

>Hard drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

>Video Card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

>Monitor

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


>Optical Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

>Heatsink

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

>Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total: $1,288.88 Before Rebate

This build gives you the ability to crossfire/sli in the future if new games are more demanding. You could add in another graphics card, the power supply is decent and could handle 2 graphics card.
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November 9, 2009 3:37:07 AM

overshocks said:
Here's a build I've done for another person

NOTE: THIS BUILD HAS A MONITOR AND 5850 VIDEO CARD, SO USE IT AS A REFERENCE, ERASE THE MONITOR AND GET A LOWER VIDEO CARD LIKE 4870 OR 4890 BECAUSE YOU ARE RUNNING 1680X1050 OR 1280X1024 WITH AA ON

I only used newegg, but you can use other sites if you can find the same parts for cheaper.
Or if you can find better combos at newegg

Here's an i5 750 build with new monitor

Total: $1,288.88 Before Rebate

This build gives you the ability to crossfire/sli in the future if new games are more demanding. You could add in another graphics card, the power supply is decent and could handle 2 graphics card.


thanks overshock for the awesome reply. that looks like a promising build! is there an AMD version we could do to save some $...or would we lose SLI/crossfire capability? also, how much $ would you expect prices to go down on black friday/cyber monday?
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November 9, 2009 3:59:40 AM

paperfox said:
Take note that Gameraddict’s currency is in Australian dollars not USD that is why his cost for that system is so high. I went through Newegg and found that the cost for his system is actually $1909 USD.

However if you don’t need the keyboard, mouse, monitor, OS; it comes to $1450. Additional saving can be gained by getting the Phenom II X4 955 CPU rather than the 965 ($20), and getting rid of that Corsair SSD for the OS ($240), new cost is down to $1190. Further savings can be gained by reusing old DVD drives and computer cases.

Gamer’s build minus the keyboard, monitor, mouse, OS, and SSD is a very good build and will give Crysis a good beating on high settings but not absolute max. I somewhat disagree that you need to spend $2000+ to max out Crysis, unless you include the cost of monitor/key/mouse and such. (most of which i keep for years and over many many computer builds)

Edit: please post your country of origin and if the $900 system includes things like keyboard and monitor.


Given that the AUD has been hovering around .90 of the USD, that isn't the reason our parts are more expensive. We Aussies have several things against us, such as having one tenth the US population, a 10% GST, and companies (like MSFT) that think that it is 'fair' to rip off we Aussies in order to pad their quarterly results.

OK, rant over.
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November 9, 2009 4:54:07 AM

wynzavian said:
thanks overshock for the awesome reply. that looks like a promising build! is there an AMD version we could do to save some $...or would we lose SLI/crossfire capability? also, how much $ would you expect prices to go down on black friday/cyber monday?


i'm not good at suggesting amd builds; i'll leave that to someone else.

i'm sure you can save a few bucks on each item on black friday/cyber monday, so wait for it.
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November 9, 2009 4:55:38 AM

croc said:
Given that the AUD has been hovering around .90 of the USD, that isn't the reason our parts are more expensive. We Aussies have several things against us, such as having one tenth the US population, a 10% GST, and companies (like MSFT) that think that it is 'fair' to rip off we Aussies in order to pad their quarterly results.

OK, rant over.



Buy better items from taiwan and ship it to Australia lol..
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