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November 8, 2009 4:01:36 PM

I am planning to build a gaming desktop.Because it is my first time building a computer, I do not want to try to overclock the finished product. I know the same performance can be achieved for less money by overclocking but money is NOT an issue. I would rather spend more money to achieve the same performance than worry about overclocking my first time around.

Here is what I have picked out so far:

* Processor: Intel Core i7-965 Processor Extreme Edition
* Motherboard: EVGA X58 Classified 4-Way SLI
* Memory: Mushkin 998731 Blackline (
* Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295 (
* Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black (

Besides opinions on optical drives and power supplies, I have several questions.

1.1) I heard the Xeon processors are the i7 processors under a different name. Is that true? If so, why would the same processor be sold at a different price?

1.2) For a gaming desktop, which processor should I choose: i7 or Xeon? Remember money is not an issue. I am willing to spend more money for even a nominal performance increase.

2) I heard the EVGA X58 motherboards are as good as (if not better than) the Intel DX58SO for Intel i7 processors. Wouldn't the Intel motherboard work best with their own processor?

3) Out of two memory modules offered by Mushkin, the only difference is the heatsink. What exactly is the difference between the heatsinks, which are Ascent and Frostbyte?

4) I read using multiple graphics cards is better (in terms of available graphical power). Is that true? If so, does the available graphical power 'max out' at, let's say, 3 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295 GPUs or would a fourth contribute even more?

5) Is RAID worth implementing for a gaming desktop? If so, is the hard drive I already chose a good choice with which to implement RAID 10 'The Striped Mirror'? If not, then what is a good hard drive with which to do so.

6) Are there any differences between the Home Premium, Professional, and Ultimate editions of Windows 7? If there are any extra features in the more costly editions that I, as a gamer, may use from time to time (however rare), then I am willing to spend the extra money to get those extra features.

Please excuse me if any of those questions were stupid. Thank you for your help. =]

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November 8, 2009 4:55:21 PM

get 3 or 4 ati 5870's it walks over anything currently on the market

cut this how you want

you want the ultimate best of the best build money could buy?

well here you go

drop the idea of the 975 for now there will be a hexacore i7 1025 out early next yr but if you want something for now get a 920

3x xfx 5870 (or later 5970)

LIAN LI PC-P80 Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case

3x in raid5 Western Digital Caviar Black WD2001FASS 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive

2x ENERMAX Galaxy EVO EGX1250EWT 1250W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready
CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Compatible w/Core i7 Modular Active PFC Power Supply -

2x CORSAIR DOMINATOR-GT 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 15000) Desktop Memory Model CMG6GX3M3A1866C7 - Retail

EVGA E760 CLASSIFIED "Overclocker's Pick" 3-Way SLI + PhysX 1366 Intel X58 EATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
3 Way SLI, Digital PWM, E-Leet Utility and Vdroop control

Intel Core i7-920 Bloomfield 2.66GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor - Retail

Pioneer Black 12X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 5X DVD-RAM 8X BD-ROM 4MB Cache SATA Internal Blu-ray Disc/DVD/CD Writer Model BDR-205BKS

2x in raid0 OCZ Vertex Series OCZSSD2-1VTX250G 2.5" 250GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid state disk (SSD) games and apps

OCZ Z-DRIVE OCZSSDPCIE-ZDP84256G PCI-E 250GB PCI Express x8 MLC Internal Solid state disk boot drive

Swiftech H20-220 Apex Ultima Liquid Cooling Kit


and we at bout $7000 in the red
November 8, 2009 5:24:40 PM

Well for your processor, i don't think they sell it any more, its been replaced by the 975 instead. Just like the i7 940 isn't sold anymore. I couldn't find it on
Here is the CPU: Intel Core i7 975 Extreme Edition Bloomfield
Motherboard:EVGA 4-way Classified
Or consider this motherboard, also an excellent one:
Asus SuperComputer
And this one is also really good:
Asus Rampage II Extreme

-Here is some good ram that i recommend:
Patriot Viper 6GB
^It has good timings and very high frequencies so it will matchup with the processor very well.
For your system budget, I highly recommend a solid state:
OCZ PCI-E slot Solid State Drive
^This is a really expensive one but its much faster then the other SSD's, you can go cheaper and get the Intel X-25m for 259.99 also.

-Don't get the GTX295, Nvidia is about to release its next generation of videocards that will support DX11 and be much moe powerful. So just wait a few weeks maybe a month or a bit more and they will be released. Or get an ATI 5xxx series card because they already have DX11 support. If you decide to go with ATI then get this card:
Sapphire ATI Radeon 5870
^If you ever want to crossfire them then go for it, its a crazy powerful card.
To make sure you can crossfire in the future and stuff, here is an excellent and powerful modular powersupply for you:
Corsair 850Watt HX Modular Power Supply Unit

Answer to your questions:
1) Not really, xeons are busniss grade chips of a higher quality overall, some have pretty equivalent power to the i7's, but are designed for different purposes.
2)For gaming, definitily an i7. The xeon won't give you any benefit.
3)Not sure about that, its more entitled to opinion
4)The maximum you can do with single GPU cards is Tri-SLI (i think), if you have a multi-gpu card like a GTX295, 9800GX2...etc then you can only 2-Way SLI them but it would be called Quad-SLI since each card has 2 GPU's already. Thats how it works for now, until nvidia or ATI come up with something new :) 
5)For gaming, the storage doesn't matter, all it affects is the speed of loading in maps, not the fps. Hard drives have no effect on FPS or performance in anything as applications are loaded into the ram when operating so the RAM is what affects it. I however suggest an SSD for fast load-ups.
6)Nope, the Home Premium will do everything you need, the other version just have benefits that would be used in the busniss/corporate envirnment, not a gamer. They just have some more security options for busnisses.

Hope that answers all your questions!