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JTBomb007   11-15-2009 at 10:42:05 PM

http://www.techspot.com/review/101 [...] 2-formula/

Hi,

That link above is the mobo i have, and i was wondering if anyone could tell me whether i am limited to NVIDIA only or can i have ATi instead? As my Dad said that i am only able to have NVIDIA....just want to get more opinions before i do go and buy a 295...

Greetz John

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jennyh   11-15-2009 at 10:47:09 PM
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You can use either. The only issues are with sli/xfire on certain mobos but for a single card any of the two gpu makers is fine on any mobo.

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Bronze Graphics badge shadow187   11-15-2009 at 10:50:40 PM
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Though I'd get an HD5870. This is a Crossfire motherboard.

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JTBomb007   11-16-2009 at 03:16:58 AM
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I intend to have multiple of which ever i get....so i can crossfire with this mobo yea?

100%?

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ubernoob   11-16-2009 at 04:05:10 AM
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You can crossfire with that motherboard, yes, 100% (unless I suddenly forgot how to read).

But you don't sound 100% certain that IS your motherboard. I'd double check.

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Bluescreendeath   11-16-2009 at 04:18:42 AM
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Get the 5870 - it performs almost as good, is a single GPU instead of two (so better scaling, and you can put another in there in the future for good scaling), is about $100 cheaper, runs cooler, uses much less energy, and supports DX11.

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HansVonOhain   11-16-2009 at 04:26:09 AM
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^+1 Just what I was about to say

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JackMomma   11-16-2009 at 09:14:31 AM
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I bought a GTX 295, but only because i found it used for $200... It is a great card, but i enjoy the ease of a single card setup better... SLI on any setup isnt utilizing power as much as a strong single GPU can. If your between buying them now, go with the 5870, it has all the power you need, and is DX11 which will be more useful in the long run.

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PaCanc   11-16-2009 at 11:27:12 AM
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@JTBomb007:
If the MB is indeed the one in the link, then you can NOT use crossfire. That MB supports SLI. Read the specifications.
You can use a single graphics card from either ATI or nVidia though.

@ubernoob:
I guess you really forgot how to read :)

@shadow187:
No, this MB is not a Crossfire MB, it's a SLI one.

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JTBomb007   11-16-2009 at 12:13:24 PM
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Cheers PaCanc.

Yea its my mobo.

Is there any info or speculation on when the 300 series gfx cards will be surfacing, because im sure NVIDIA are due to create a card to compete with the 5870 rite?

Currently i have 9600 GT in SLi, will the comparison between the 295GTX on its own be a massive improvement or a slight improvement? Is it worth it...

Thanks for all the replies so far guys :)

John

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Bronze Graphics badge shadow187   11-16-2009 at 02:12:04 PM
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But while gamers wanting to use Crossfire technology will no doubt be quite happy with that product, those wanting to use multiple Nvidia-based graphics cards are going to have to look elsewhere.



Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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hellraiser06   11-16-2009 at 02:23:59 PM
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Its an SLI mobo. If you want to use two cards at the same time, then you will have to use nvidia. However, if you are using only one card then either nvidia or ati is good.

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JTBomb007   11-17-2009 at 08:49:59 AM
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Looks like a 295 it is.... :D

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whemian   11-17-2009 at 09:41:29 AM
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Don't be a fool to buy GTX295. Just buy a 5970 which will wipe the follor with GTX.

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JTBomb007   11-17-2009 at 05:08:26 PM
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I want 2, cant have ATi, makes things alot simple. Just harsh on the wallet.

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Kari   11-17-2009 at 05:35:38 PM
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5970 is a double chip card, basically two 5870 chips at 5850 clocks...

and quadsli/xfire scaling isnt really that good anyways, so a single dual chip 5970 will be around the same level than quadsli with 2 gtx295s


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JackMomma   11-17-2009 at 10:46:48 PM
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I have to agree, i bought my GTX 295 from a guy who had two, and didnt really care about the extra performance it gave him to the money he spent... The money your about to drop for that kind of power is not worth it right now. If your really wanting to spend that much, get one and use it until the GTX 300's come out... it will run any game that is out between now and then just fine.

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JTBomb007   11-18-2009 at 07:23:00 PM
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At the moment i have no choice but to wait, money has decided to be a problem atm lol

Is there any idea when the 300 series will be coming out?

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JackMomma   11-18-2009 at 08:47:40 PM
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i think i was hearing january, but thats just a guess... im sure you can find out with a little research. and definitely wait. I didnt see that you had 9600s in SLi, but honestly after having a 9800gtx and moving to the single 295GTX i didnt see an ultra drastic improvement like i thought i would, and id put two 9600s ahead of a single 9800. Frame rates are definitely better, but actual performance overall really didnt seem to jump all that much. i might have a very slight bottleneck at my cpu, but even with that, i was expecting more improvement. If you look around for the GTX 300 series though i think you will be more tempted to wait too, performance jump is supposed to be pretty impressive.

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