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November 9, 2009 3:16:02 PM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: within a month
BUDGET RANGE: ~$2000

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Photoshop & Lightroom, Breezebrowser, FTP software, internet, streaming from Hulu while I work. All are usually running at the same time too.

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, monitors, speakers

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: probably Newegg

PARTS PREFERENCES: intel CPU

OVERCLOCKING: Maybe

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe. Not sure it is necessary for applications I use.

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920x1200 (Dell 24 inch) and a 19 inch that I put PS palettes

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: Thinking about setting up RAID 10 with 4 drives. Is this necessary? What's the best way to back-up system? Am I better off with just two drives in RAID 0 for performance? I don't store any files on internal/boot discs either.

These are the components I have so far. Any input on this build is greatly appreciated.

COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN1-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core i7-920 Bloomfield 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80601920 - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS P6T LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

2 x CORSAIR XMS3 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TR3X6G1600C9 - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HIS H577F1GDG Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

areca ARC-1210 PCI-Express x8 SATA II Controller Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

4 x Western Digital RE3 WD3202ABYS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER MASTER Silent Pro 700 RS-700-AMBA-D3 700W ATX12V V2.3 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active ... - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

LITE-ON Black 4X Blu-ray Disc Reader SATA Model iHOS104-08 - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

KINGWIN KF-4000-BK 3.5" Internal hot swap rack raid-4 bay - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SUPER TALENT INTAIN1MCR All-in-one Card Reader - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2 92mm Fluid Dynamic CPU Cooler - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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November 9, 2009 4:13:14 PM

don't get those hard drives. Get a fast one to use as your main drive such as the WD Black 1 tb drive, the new spinpoint 1 TB drives, or an SSD and then some slower 5400rpm 1 tb drives for storage such as the WD green 1TB drives. Also make sure to set the photoshop scratch file to a separate disk from where the program is installed. As for RAID, RAID 0 isn't too much faster (and an SSD would be even faster than 2 HDD in raid). RAID 5 will probably be sufficient as long as you are using 1TB drives for storage. Also raid is not back up, make sure to backup critical files elsewhere.

As for the graphics card, its probably overkill because photoshop only uses the GPU for a few of the tasks since it is still a 2d application and that is only if you have GPU acceleration available in CS4

12 GB of RAM is also excessive since I'm pretty sure that tests have shown that photoshop will not use more than 4gb. If you're heavily multitasking you might need 12GB.

Unless you're going to overclock you don't need the Arctic Cooler and lots of people prefer the Dark Knight or Scythe Mugen 2.
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November 9, 2009 5:46:55 PM

Thanks for the suggestions.

Do you have a graphics card in mind that might be better suited for my situation?

For the memory, I suppose if I start with 6GB I could always add more if necessary. Good idea.

Still not really sure what to do about system drive(s). All files (mostly clients photos) are saved on two external HD's and RAW files are also saved to DVD's. My concern is being able to restore my system if something goes wrong like a HD going bad.

Any thoughts?
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November 9, 2009 6:30:32 PM

Here's what I would suggest for what you need:

Mobo: GIGABYTE GA-P55-UD4P $169.99
CPU: i7-860 $289.99
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 $114.99
GPU: (Same) $174.99

Hard Drive for Active Projects & Programs:
SSD: Corsair P128 (CMFSSD-128GBG2D) 128GB $369.00

Hard Drives for Storage, Backup, & Archiving:
3 HDD's in RAID 5: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB $79.99 x 3 = ($239.97)

Case: (Same) $139.99
PSU: Antec EarthWatts EA500 500W $69.99
Blu-Ray Drive: LITE-ON Black 4X BD-ROM SATA Internal 4X Blu-ray Disc Reader $67.99
DVD/CD-Burner: LG Black IDE 22X DVD±R DVD Burner LightScribe Support $31.99
Card Reader: (Same) $9.99
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit $174.99
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Grand Total: $1,853.87


This will give you plenty of power for everything you could ever need. You probably don't need such a high end GPU, but if you really want the DirectX11 and the Eyefinity, then ok. But an HD 4850 will give you better graphics performance for less coin (and that is still probably overkill). 500W should be plenty of power. 4 GB of RAM should be plenty for now (you can upgrade to 8 GB in the future when you need to, and then prices will be much cheaper). An SSD as your primary hard disk is the way to go! They are wonderful for handling large files, and will make such a huge performance impact. I cannot stress how awesome SSD's are. So, you have a 120 GB SSD for your software and your active projects, and then we have a RAID 5 array for storage and archiving. For this, I used 3 Samsung Spinpoint F3 1 TB drives, giving you a storage capacity of 2 TB with some redundancy in case of drive failure. Also these drives will have significant transfers speeds as they are 7200 RPM and will be in raid, so you can quickly move projects from your fast SSD to your voluminous storage array.

You could get away with a cheaper case too. An Antec 300 (about $60) would work; however, the Coolermaster is certainly far superior, so I will not argue that (just saying you could go cheaper if you wanted to). You also do NOT need to get the 1366 architecture since you do not plan to use SLI or Crossfire, the 1156 architecture is cheaper and will give you about the same performance. Finally, and you do not need third party RAID or SATA card.


PS - why do you specifically need Windows 7 Ultimate? Here is a product comparison chart: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7_editions), you may not need all of its features.
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November 9, 2009 6:41:37 PM

Haha, thanks...

PPS - if you're going to add anything to that build, buy a bigger SSD. They are expensive, but they are so worth it for photo-editing and anything involving large files. Your machine will boot faster, copy files faster, search faster, load graphics faster, open programs faster... just do everything FASTER (which is what it's all about).
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November 9, 2009 7:33:52 PM

nofun...

That looks like a great system. I've got a few more questions I hope you don't mind answering.

I have been using the Kingwin hot-swap rack for all storage. I use two 1tb drives at a time and one is a copy of the other. I have been filling up 1tb drive in about 7 months or so. When the two identical drives are full I can store 1 off site and keep the other in case I need to access files from them. That's what I use the other two bays in the Kingwin for - to access files from stored drive.

So I guess my question is do I still need the three other drives in RAID 5?
And... what is the best way to keep my system protected/backed up in case of some system failure.

I'll check out the different versions of windows 7 too to see what I really need.

Thanks again for your help!
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November 9, 2009 7:54:13 PM

since you're doing photoshop..and your budget is $2000

theres no reason why you are not getting a i7 920 build.

nofun's build is good, but it leaves you with limited upgrade option in the future, plus again your budget is 2000..i7 860 build is a bad choice and bad upgrade path..

if you choose the i7 860 path, then you will need 8GB of RAM for photoshop, assuming you are running other designing/editing programs too. 4GB isn't enough then

nofun's build is missing a heatsink, get a hyper 212 plus heatsink for better temperatures or for overclocking, or both. it's really cheap

get the samsung spinpoint hard drives, either the 1TB version or 500GB version is fine. get more than one if you need more storage..
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November 9, 2009 8:00:08 PM

shmar 10 welcome to the forums :) 
Here's some sugestions:
Since your build revovles around major picture editing and photoshop. I recommend devoting a good chunk of attention and budget for your RAM. 6GB of Triple Channel memory for the Core i7 920 would be excellent. I couldn't find any other kits with good RAM. You want memory with a high transfer rate/frequency and very low latency. This it I think would suit your needs better.
Muskin Enhanced Redline 6GB (3x2GB) Triple Channel Kit 1600mhz CL6
A 700watt Power Supply for you is overkill. However if you plan on doing crossfire in the future and have a lot of hard drives it will be fine, if the price difference is minimal then stick with the 700watt.
-And you might want get faster hard drives like the Caviar Black series.
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November 9, 2009 9:43:56 PM

shmar10 said:
nofun...

That looks like a great system. I've got a few more questions I hope you don't mind answering.

I have been using the Kingwin hot-swap rack for all storage. I use two 1tb drives at a time and one is a copy of the other. I have been filling up 1tb drive in about 7 months or so. When the two identical drives are full I can store 1 off site and keep the other in case I need to access files from them. That's what I use the other two bays in the Kingwin for - to access files from stored drive.

So I guess my question is do I still need the three other drives in RAID 5?
And... what is the best way to keep my system protected/backed up in case of some system failure.

I'll check out the different versions of windows 7 too to see what I really need.

Thanks again for your help!


If you already have a system worked out for backing up storage, then you really don't need RAID 5.

Raid protects against hardware failures (ie - a hard drive dying), it does not protect against user stupidity (ie - you delete a file accidentally). For protection against that, there are a slew of software options available to you. For home use, I've been reasonably happy with DT Utilities PC Backup (review here: http://data-backup-software-review.toptenreviews.com/backup-mypc-review.html), but this is an inexpensive home-use solution. There are better solutions for professional use, but I'm not familiar with them.
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November 9, 2009 11:13:32 PM

If you want file safety that is hardware failure safe AND user stupidity safe ^ as stated above you can order a service that usually costs like 50-100 dollars a YEAR that backs up a certain hard drive of you selection every now and then and puts the data into servers from that company to keep it safe.
^Personally I use a service called "Mozy Home Back-Up". It costs a dirt cheap of 50bucks a year. Basically, I have 1.5TB hard drive that I share on my network, I gave the company the IP address of my server and share name of the hard drive and every 12 hours it backs up every file on that hard drive and stores them in different servers around the country for Xtreme data safety. :)  You might think it would take forever to copy the data if you have a 1TB of space...well the first time it does it then yes it can take many hours but after that, every time it copies, it only copies changed files, new files, or earases deleted ones, it won't copy old files so regular back-ups done every 12 hours can only take like 5-10 minutes depending on how often the files are changed and how many are added. Thats the best way to protect valuable storage.
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November 10, 2009 1:53:05 AM

Wow! Great input. I think I am starting to get a handle on exactly what I am going to need.

blackhawk192... Can Mozy be used to restore a system drive if it crashes? That's the last thing I am still trying to figure out. How can I protect against the drive with OS and all programs failing?

Thanks again for everyones help.
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November 10, 2009 3:02:25 AM

Ok... after everyones input, this is what I've got. Will have to either wait or get RAM somewhere else as it's not in stock. Ideas there? Any last suggestions?

Intel Core i7-920 Bloomfield 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80601920 - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mushkin Enhanced Redline 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model 998691 - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Corsair P128 (CMFSSD-128GBG2D) 2.5" 128GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid state disk (SSD) - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HIS H485QT512P Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported IceQ4 Turbo Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7 compatible RR-B10-212P-GP 120mm "heatpipe direct contact" Long ... - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

LITE-ON Black 24X DVD Writer Black SATA Model iHAS-324-98 - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN1-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

(Has a lot of SATA connections which I need) ASUS P6T LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

(Same price as CM SP 600) COOLER MASTER Silent Pro 700 RS-700-AMBA-D3 700W ATX12V V2.3 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active ... - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

KINGWIN KF-4000-BK 3.5" Internal hot swap rack raid-4 bay - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SUPER TALENT INTAIN1MCR All-in-one Card Reader - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

(scratch disk for Photoshop) Western Digital Caviar Blue WD800JD 80GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Still looking into other versions(thoughts?) Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total: $1845.86

Thanks again for all your help. This is a great forum.
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November 10, 2009 7:03:05 PM

shmar10 said:
Wow! Great input. I think I am starting to get a handle on exactly what I am going to need.

blackhawk192... Can Mozy be used to restore a system drive if it crashes? That's the last thing I am still trying to figure out. How can I protect against the drive with OS and all programs failing?

Thanks again for everyones help.


The Mozy Back-up only backs up actual data and files, it cant really restore an operating system. To actually save an OS w/ data you need to make a mirror image of it. I think there is software that you can literally image a hard drive to another one and just keep it for storage but i don't think its realtime back-up, you need to do that manually every couple days or so however long you want. Besides you wouldn't want to risk two important HDD's under the hands of one powersupply because if it smokes both drives are gone lol. Also getting a Fiber Channel drive will help as thier quality is much higher and they are busniss grade but thier price is more also.
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November 13, 2009 9:08:59 PM

So I've got everything but the SSD drive. I am going to try and take lots of pictures as I build and keep posting. Should I start a new thread or just continue this one?

Here are most of the components. SSD will be in on Monday and the cpu cooler is at the office.



















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November 14, 2009 2:35:04 AM

Looks nice, now comes the most fun part IMO, building it and turning it on for the first time.
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November 15, 2009 3:30:22 PM

Just waiting for the SSD drive now, but here is the build so far with POST!

Lots of views of the case. I like a big case! Lots of room to work and I like how the cables can be run behind the MB panel.




















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November 15, 2009 3:32:34 PM

That's a MONSTER fan at the top of the case that I unfortunately had to remove to fit the PSU.
230mm!


Other side of the case where you can run wires to keep things organized. I also thought there would be enough room to install MB and then CPU cooler after. You can see the big square cut-out. Unfortunately I couldn't get to the bottom two screws of the backplate on the CPU cooler so I had to take the MB off to install. Not a big deal tough.





GPU that I forgot to get a photo of at the beginning.














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November 15, 2009 3:33:03 PM









You just push these buttons and two pins hold the drive in place. If it's not secure enough you can put screws in from the other side as well.




Put a 4 drive hot-swap bay in these three spaces. I use these to store and backup clients photos.








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November 15, 2009 3:49:41 PM

Why did you remove the 230mm top fan?!!! I am pretty sure you can bottom mount the PSU, correct me if i am wrong. The Top is the best place to have a fan because hot air flows upwards so having a top fan IMO is the most important place a fan can be!!
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November 15, 2009 3:56:20 PM



















Now I need to figure out what to do next! Have 1 SSD coming Monday and another on backorder. Deciding if I want to wait for second to run in RAID 0.
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November 15, 2009 3:59:54 PM

blackhawk1928 said:
Why did you remove the 230mm top fan?!!! I am pretty sure you can bottom mount the PSU, correct me if i am wrong. The Top is the best place to have a fan because hot air flows upwards so having a top fan IMO is the most important place a fan can be!!



I wasn't sure if the power would reach to the MB. You think I would be ok? I could probably switch it without too much trouble.
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November 15, 2009 5:48:48 PM

I would switch if possible because having a top fan is the most efficient and effective way of excreting hot air from inside, hot air floats up so sucking it out be effective and very easy on top :) 

-Really nice pics BTW. Looks nice.
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November 15, 2009 8:20:07 PM

Thanks for the advice. I think I will switch it and put the fan back in.

Glad you like the pictures too. Thought they might also be helpful to others builders.
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November 23, 2009 3:11:31 AM

I am a photographer and would love to build something similar to this. I have never built a computer before, but have years of experience working on them. I like this setup, but I do not need the raid system as I have external boxes for my backup storage. Is there another case that you recommend?
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November 23, 2009 6:28:24 PM

Shmar my system is almost identical to yours but currently in old tower and i ordered the 932 which should come in tomorrow or the day after and if my Corsair 850TX can fit on the top with the fan still there then i'll do it but if not, my PSU is going on the bottom. IS your cooler for the CPU mounted with a 92mm or a 120mm fan? Oh and I might use those pictures when i migrate my build into the HAF932, so they are pretty useful.
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November 23, 2009 11:02:40 PM

Ditto - Photographer looking for a similar build. Is the SSD really that much of a benefit vs. a WD Raptor 10,000 rpm drive?
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November 24, 2009 1:28:42 AM

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/251043-32-raptor

I took a look that the above post and around the net and find that the SSD is a huge benefit over any HD.

If this isn't correct let me know. This is my first build and I am only going off other peoples experience. I don't think I need the 128 Gig that is mentioned here, but I do like the read write speeds it has. Windows XP, Photoshop, Microsoft Office and Lightroom only take up about 10 GIG. I would love to save some money and get a smaller SSD with fast read and write speeds.
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November 24, 2009 3:32:21 PM

What if I ran a couple of WD raptor 10,000 drives in a Raid 0 configuration? Would that have faster read times than an SSD? Well not necessarily faster, but comparible for price?
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December 1, 2009 1:03:38 PM

blackhawk1928 said:
Shmar my system is almost identical to yours but currently in old tower and i ordered the 932 which should come in tomorrow or the day after and if my Corsair 850TX can fit on the top with the fan still there then i'll do it but if not, my PSU is going on the bottom. IS your cooler for the CPU mounted with a 92mm or a 120mm fan? Oh and I might use those pictures when i migrate my build into the HAF932, so they are pretty useful.


I ended up moving the PSU to the bottom of the case and reinstalling the huge fan at the top based on your recommendation.

The fan on the CPU cooler is whatever came with it. I am not sure of the size.

Glad my pictures could be of use too.
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December 1, 2009 1:06:56 PM

the4gotn1 said:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/251043-32-raptor

I took a look that the above post and around the net and find that the SSD is a huge benefit over any HD.

If this isn't correct let me know. This is my first build and I am only going off other peoples experience. I don't think I need the 128 Gig that is mentioned here, but I do like the read write speeds it has. Windows XP, Photoshop, Microsoft Office and Lightroom only take up about 10 GIG. I would love to save some money and get a smaller SSD with fast read and write speeds.



I have the 80 GB intel SSD. I have to say that the computer is smokin fast. Programs load in the blink of an eye and I can process photos in Lightroom SO MUCH FASTER. I processed an 1100+ image wedding in at least a fourth of the time it would have taken on my old computer.
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December 1, 2009 9:19:08 PM

Hi, I now have migrated my build into the 932, actually it was about a week ago now. My Corsair 850TX sitts on the bottom very well. However sometimes when i do serious loads like prime95, the PSU makes a very quiet high pitch sound, i came to a conclusion that since its mounted upside down, the fan presses down onto its bearing causing miniscure friction. Wondering if you have that. At least I think thats whats wrong.
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December 1, 2009 9:27:16 PM

blackhawk1928 said:
Hi, I now have migrated my build into the 932, actually it was about a week ago now. My Corsair 850TX sitts on the bottom very well. However sometimes when i do serious loads like prime95, the PSU makes a very quiet high pitch sound, i came to a conclusion that since its mounted upside down, the fan presses down onto its bearing causing miniscure friction. Wondering if you have that. At least I think thats whats wrong.


You have a bottom intake, so why are you mounting your PSU upside down?
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December 1, 2009 10:16:54 PM

Whoops....my bad
-To me, if the fan on the psu is on the bottom i always for some reason think its mounted upside down. The fan is mounted downward but the psu stickers and everything is correctly upward. I am just used to my psu's having top fans instead of bottoms. My fan is on the bottom and it intakes air from the bottom grills of the case. My psu is mounted correctly, i just said that because of the fan.
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December 1, 2009 10:31:12 PM

blackhawk1928 said:
Whoops....my bad
-To me, if the fan on the psu is on the bottom i always for some reason think its mounted upside down. The fan is mounted downward but the psu stickers and everything is correctly upward. I am just used to my psu's having top fans instead of bottoms. My fan is on the bottom and it intakes air from the bottom grills of the case. My psu is mounted correctly, i just said that because of the fan.


OK, that clears that up. Now a few questions. It looks as if your PSU has an external fan grill. Was there any binding when you mounted it? Is the grill easily removeable?
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December 1, 2009 11:44:08 PM

Are you talking to me or the OP?...if to me then if you are talking about the fan grill below the PSU, then that comes with the case to give the psu more airflow. And its pretty easy to remove from the looks of it, it just has a couple of screws.
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December 2, 2009 1:11:17 AM

blackhawk1928 said:
Are you talking to me or the OP?...if to me then if you are talking about the fan grill below the PSU, then that comes with the case to give the psu more airflow. And its pretty easy to remove from the looks of it, it just has a couple of screws.


To you actually, re: the whine you are hearing. I was referring to the fan grill on the bottom of the psu, thinking it might be stressing your PSU frame thus putting the PSU's fan in a bind. Didn't mean to be obtuse...
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December 2, 2009 12:22:29 PM

blackhawk1928 said:
Hi, I now have migrated my build into the 932, actually it was about a week ago now. My Corsair 850TX sitts on the bottom very well. However sometimes when i do serious loads like prime95, the PSU makes a very quiet high pitch sound, i came to a conclusion that since its mounted upside down, the fan presses down onto its bearing causing miniscure friction. Wondering if you have that. At least I think thats whats wrong.


I have not noticed and noises, but I have not really taxed the system too hard yet. Haven't had time to do any overclocking and don't do any gaming. The system is whisper quiet though.

How do you like the case? This was by far the easiest case I've ever built in.
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December 2, 2009 6:32:45 PM

^I love the case, it has excellent cable managment very good quality, large, and has good cooling. I organized mine so well that you can barely see any wire, all of them are channeled in the back and on the sides very well so it looks awsome too. I think it was easy to build it in this case because its so damn big that you have all the space you want for anything.
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January 17, 2010 10:06:26 AM

I like the new version of the 923 ~ It has blue led's ~

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I'm not much on Red but I'm sure their are many who like Red better ~ Great case either way ~ I built mine based on a AMD 965 125w setup and it runs photoshop as well as Cyberlink and Pinnacle Studion 14 for video editing with no trouble at all ~ There are upgrades I'm making along the way ~ I dont do it for a living so I know the 920 would be a step up in video edit but for Photoshop CS4 I can see any upside to the 920 ~ I'm aksing so if I'm wrong please point out to me where and how ~ I may have to think about upgrading my CPU and motherboard ~ Also would two Western Digital VelociRaptor WD3000HLFS 300GB in rad not be as fast as the SSD hard drives ~ ? Something I believe will be my next upgrade ~ Again I cant believe the 256 GB SSD are worth that kind of money ~ But they get it because they are the new in many ways ~ I will most likely wait on the price to come down in a year or two ~ $700 for a hard dive is just unthinkable to me ~ Again this isn't a knock on you guys ~ It's based on what I do with my setup ~ I would be buying the same parts as you guys if I did it more a living ~

I upgrade something about every 3 to 6 months it seems so if you guys believe the 920 is worth the cash to upgrade over the AMD 965 C3 let me know ~ I'll give it some real thought ~ On the other hand I have seen some reviews that say that the new AMD CPU will be backwards compatible and work on my motherboard
(thats one thing that is great about AMD now LOL) so thats something else to think about ~

But for you guys doing it for a living I believe you have put together winning systems ~ Intel has the fastest CPU's no doubt but for me I had trouble justifying the cost for what I use it for ~ I for one am happy AMD is around for the budget minded also ~

PS ~ Please over look my spelling ~ I have a bad back and have been up for most of the last couple of days and sometimes spell check doesn't do me any good ~ It sometimes reply's with "WHAT" ? LOL

Enjoy your new systems and good luck with your businesses ~ All the best wishes to you and yous in 2010 ~
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January 17, 2010 2:21:07 PM

^Well, LED's is inside the case is the absolute last possible thing to worry about on my list of possible things to worry about when building a PC....I get cases based on quality, size, cooling, brand, and internal structure.
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January 17, 2010 4:45:08 PM

Wouldnt you be better of with adding some more money and buying some Quadro FX series card, rather then a gaming card? (you can try and get some cheap quadro fx 1800, it should rock your world!)

Congrats on PC, hope it serves you well!
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August 9, 2010 2:46:37 PM

Just found this thread while searching on google. Basically I am going to build the same system in the next month and was curious to see if OP or others who helped design this build have any updated information on this build. Perhaps any recommended upgrades since this build is already close to a year old.

Thanks for any feedback.
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