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November 10, 2009 4:03:45 AM

I have a budget of around $3000 Australian

This is what I was looking at getting:

HAF 932 full tower
Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB
Kingston Hyper X RAM 6GB 1600MHZ
i7-950
Gigabyte Radeon 5870 1GB
Gigabyte GA-EX58 Extreme Motherboard
Blu-ray SATA DVD burner combo
V-10 Coolermaster CPU cooler
Corsair 850W PSU


I really need advice on PSU and cooling
Also i have a basic idea of computer systems but some sort of assembly guide would help :na:  :sweat: 

Is there anything else i would need to purchase in order to make it work.... eg Windows 7

ALL ADVICE IS WELCOME.... just dont insult my noobishness

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: within the month
BUDGET RANGE: (e.g.: 2500-3000AUD)

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: GAMING, movies

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: in AUS so newegg doesnt really work for me staticice is an australian site that searches australian part providers

PARTS PREFERENCES: good parts? im a noob

OVERCLOCKING: Yes SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe

More about : build advice needed

November 10, 2009 4:09:42 AM

Assuming your need is for gaming...

Take a look at my i5 750 build..use it as a reference

I only used newegg, but you can use other sites if you can find the same parts for cheaper.
Or if you can find better combos at newegg

Here's an i5 750 build with new monitor, without O.S

>MOBO+RAM 30 dollar discount
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

>Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

>CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

>Hard drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

>Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

>Monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

>Optical Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

>Heatsink
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

>Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total: $1,288.88 Before Rebate

This build gives you the ability to crossfire/sli in the future if new games are more demanding. You could add in another graphics card, the power supply is decent and could handle 2 graphics card.
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November 10, 2009 5:46:44 AM

HAF 932 full tower - One of the best, consider Antec 1200 as alternate...new review here:
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article993-page7.html

Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB - The 2 TB model is a much better performer with it's 500 GB platters. Suggest a 500 GB platter drive in 1 TB size like the Spinpoint F3

Kingston Hyper X RAM 6GB 1600MHZ - Better choices available w/ lower CAS timings ...Muskin 998962 w/ Ascent cooling modiles is CAS6

i7-950 - Consider OC'ing the 920 to 965 speeds and above

Gigabyte Radeon 5870 1GB - Asus....model has some voltage tweaking features that gain 15-18% dunno if other manufacturers are doing same yet.

Gigabyte GA-EX58 Extreme Motherboard - Consider Asus P6T Deluxe V2 as an alternate ... tho w/ you biudget, the Rampage II Extreme is within reach.

Blu-ray SATA DVD burner combo - Check out Plextor 320AS (BR Reader / DVD Writer)

V-10 Coolermaster CPU cooler - There are better:

http://www.frostytech.com/top5heatsinks.cfm
http://www.silentpcreview.com/Recommended_Heatsinks
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

Corsair 850W PSU - which one ? If doing the XFire / SLI thing and OC'ing, suggest the Corair HX / Antec SG series as 1st choice, TX / TP series next. In the Antec 1200, the Antec CP-850 is a great PSU at a ridiculously low price.
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November 10, 2009 6:12:05 AM

imo save some money on memory. Go for slower 1333 modules if they're significantly cheaper. Won't make much of a performance difference.

Also the guy above suggests a P6T board. If you should choose that asus board, or the older version of it, make sure your memory is in the compatibility list. It's known for not working properly with a lot of modules.
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November 10, 2009 9:20:20 AM

OKAY lets re-try


Coolermaster HAF 32 full tower case $200
Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB $177
Kingston Hyper X RAM 6GB $200
Intel i7-920 processor 2.66GHz $346
ASUS Radeon HD5870 1GB $550
ASUS RAMPAGE-II-EXTREME $485
LG CH08LS10 BLU-RAY 8x Reader /DVD Burner $180
PT-MegaHalems Prolimatech Megahalem Rev 2 $89
Corsair HX850W PSU $230

TOTAL=$2457 AUD

how do you attach fans in push pull configuration on megahalem?
and what are good fans to put on it?
what is some good ram w/ cooling?
will all this stuff be compatible? what parts should I check for cmpatability
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November 10, 2009 9:21:02 PM

You have a nice configuration there, some comments:

Mobo: You have more motherboard there than you will likely ever use. If its necessary/desirable to save some money - at our Newegg as much as 180USD, dunno in AUS. You want a mobo that will do both crossfire and SLI so that you can expand with either vendor as and if needed, and maybe something that will overclock easily to a decent 24/7 speed. The Rampage II Extreme is a good mobo, but it isn't needed to do those things well.

One example, EVGA microATX does all you need at 180USD:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM: You are looking for a 3x2GB DDR3 memory kit from a good manufacturer. The voltage must be 1.65 or below. The speed can be either 1333 or 1600. The latency (labelled "Cas Latency" or "CL" or the first number in a timing string like 9-9-9-24) should be as low as possible withou breaking the bank lol. The best use of money in this configuration would be a low-latency 1333 memory.

Here's some samples from Newegg:

Lowest priced name brand (IMO) kit, Crucial 1333 CL9, $126
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

A faster kit, Crucial 1333 CL7 $150, P6T compatible
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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November 10, 2009 9:39:32 PM

What about corsair dominator DDR3 6GB 1600MHz?

And what if i went back from the rampage II to the gigabyte board i had previously selected?

Also i read reviews on the V10 saying they could overclock their 920's quite a bit using it so seeing as the megahalem is better this should improve i just have no idea about how you attach the fans and whether/is it possible to use them with a fan switch?
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November 10, 2009 9:48:47 PM

Corsair Dominator RAM, the Rampage II, and the V10 are all a waste of money IMO. Twoboxer gave you some good suggestions.
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November 10, 2009 10:00:23 PM

shortstuff_mt said:
Corsair Dominator RAM, the Rampage II, and the V10 are all a waste of money IMO. Twoboxer game you some good suggestions.


+1 can't agree more, the v10 is waste of money IMHO, it's expensive and it's heavy, and loses to some heatsinks that are lower priced
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November 10, 2009 10:00:30 PM

No need to go LGA1366, go LGA1156 and core i5. It will save you about 230$US for a marginal benefit.
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November 10, 2009 10:07:28 PM

Crucial and mushkin are not easily available where I am.

So the EVGA microATX instead of the rampage?

and not the gigabyte extreme rev 1.0?
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November 10, 2009 10:11:14 PM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: within the month
BUDGET RANGE: (e.g.: 2500-3000AUD)

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: GAMING, movies

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: in AUS so newegg doesnt really work for me staticice is an australian site that searches australian part providers

PARTS PREFERENCES: good parts? im a noob

OVERCLOCKING: Yes SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe
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November 11, 2009 4:13:19 PM

Coolermaster HAF 32 full tower case - Good choice
Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB - older, slower design
Kingston Hyper X RAM 6GB - whatever yacan get at CAS 6 or, if unavailable, 7
ASUS RAMPAGE-II-EXTREME - unless seriously OC'ing the P6t Deluxe V2
Corsair HX850W PSU - Greta choice


how do you attach fans in push pull configuration on megahalem? - there are two fan clips w/ the Rev B kit
and what are good fans to put on it? - Nothing faster than 1200 rpm - Nexus 120 is best c hoice ....see http://www.silentpcreview.com/prolima-megahelams

what is some good ram w/ cooling? - The Ascent liquid cooling modules are very nice but Mushkin product and as you indicated not readily available by you. many hi end modules have cooling find attached. Those big fan coolers will interfere with the Mega but the Antec Spot Cool will work if you need it.
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November 12, 2009 3:01:05 AM

Corsair dominator GT?
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November 12, 2009 4:21:24 AM

Can you suggest a newer 1TB hard drive?
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November 12, 2009 7:16:35 AM

No, he's referring to WD's new 2TB drive which is, in fact, faster than Velociraptors. AFAIK, there is no economy size as yet with the same performance.
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November 13, 2009 2:46:19 AM

2TB caviar black?
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November 17, 2009 6:59:52 PM

majika_lord said:
Can you suggest a newer 1TB hard drive?


The Spinpoint F3 has 500 GB per platter models smaller than 2 TB
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November 17, 2009 11:13:55 PM

Quote:
The Spinpoint F3 has 500 GB per platter models smaller than 2 TB


So Spinpoint F3 outperforms caviar black?
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November 17, 2009 11:56:44 PM

majika_lord said:
Quote:
The Spinpoint F3 has 500 GB per platter models smaller than 2 TB


So Spinpoint F3 outperforms caviar black?


Yes, get the spinpoint f3 over the caviar black, faster and cheaper.
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November 18, 2009 9:41:13 PM

sonic-boom said:
Yes, get the spinpoint f3 over the caviar black, faster and cheaper.
Please give a link to any third party review that shows the f3 is faster than the 2TB WD Black. AFAIK, nothing that spins is faster at the moment.
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November 18, 2009 9:44:03 PM

JackNaylorPE said:
The Spinpoint F3 has 500 GB per platter models smaller than 2 TB

He is now looking at the 1tb range, the Spinpoint is faster in this range. IT is outperformed by the 2tb Black though.
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November 18, 2009 9:44:41 PM

majika_lord said:
Can you suggest a newer 1TB hard drive?

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