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First build, i7 Gaming PC $1300

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November 10, 2009 7:49:58 AM

Hi, I'm new to the PC making scene though I think I know enough to put one together.
I've been looking to put my first one together and make it a good bit future proof.
So because of that I chose the i7 and x58 as they seem like they will stick on top as the faster setups.
I have a pretty good idea of what I want to use for it, though still a few questions.

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: In the next few weeks to month.
BUDGET RANGE: Around 1300 Before Rebates
SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming for the most part, and watching videos as well I suppose.
PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, monitor
PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Right now I've mostly been looking through tiger direct and newegg but if somewhere has a better deal let me know.
COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: United States
PARTS PREFERENCES:No preference really. Just quality stuff with good Warranties.
OVERCLOCKING: Yes or maybe.
SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Yes in the future
MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1280 x 960

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS:
Case - COOLER MASTER Storm Scout
Operating System - Windows 7
Monitor - Syntax Olevia LT26HVE 26-Inch 1280 x 960?
Chipset - Intel core i7 920
Motherboard - ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 or ASUS P6TD Deluxe
HDD - Haven't Chosen yet, probably going to grab a 1TB drive.
Graphic Card - XFX version of the 5850 X2 in the future
RAM - 6 GB DDR3 RAM
PSU - Suggestions? not sure how much I will need.
Optical Drive - Haven't chosen one yet. Probably the last thing I'll look at. DVD/CD R-RW

Right now I'm using my dads old monitor it is a Olevia 26-Inch I'm running it in 1280 X 960 because it looks good this way, not sure if it's the right res though.

Like I said this is going to be a gaming computer and I thought the 80 extra would be worth it to go to an i7. I am also going to go with Windows 7.
Right now I'm choosing between the ASUS p6t Deluxe V2 and the p6td deluxe.
They seem to be about the same exept the p6td is cheaper and only has 1 of the 2 lans that are on the V2, though I don't see myself needing that.
Are there any other differences between the two or is the p6td a better choice?

The GPU I decided to go with is the XFX version of the 5850s IF anyone ever gets anymore in stock, and then later on upgrading to a 2nd in crossfire.
The case is the Storm Master Scout, and I'll be adding one fan on the side and the 2nd on top possibly see if I can't fit one in the empty external drive bays as I'll only be using one of the five. Though I have thought of adding some kind of temp display or something left behind the mesh. That would look fairly cool.

I am thinking of doing SOME overclocking, mostly getting the cpu to hit 3ghz however this is going to be an air cooled system so nothing major.

Another thing I need help on is what PSU should I use for this? I was thinking a 700-800 wat modular PSU would be about right. Am I right and are there any suggestions on specific brands?


The last thing I'm stuck on a bit is the RAM I have a few choices I have narrowed it down to but not sure which would be best.

The first choice is also the best but I'm wondering if it is worth the extra money and if the brand is good. 1600 and 6-7-6-18 at 1.6V for $195
G.SKILL Trident 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL6T-6GBTD - Retail

The middle one OCZ which I hear is good. 1600 and 7-7-7-24 at 1.65V for $164 with the mail in rebate and bundled with the i7-920 for $12 in savings.
OCZ Platinum 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Voltage Desktop Memory Model OCZ3P1600LV6GK - Retail

Then the cheapest is again OCZ. 1600 and 9-9-9-24 at 1.65V for $115 with the mail in rebate and can be bundled with the P6T -$30 and P6TD -$25
OCZ Obsidian 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model OCZ3OB1600LV6GK - Retail


So the best is obvious at $200 but that's pretty spendy especially when I can get the cheapest for under $100.
Not sure how much better the 3 Cas latency will make them.

Anyway thanks for any help and suggestions right now I should be hitting $200-$300 above my mark when everything's bought, but the few extra bucks will be worth it when the parts aren't old news in a few months. I don't think I left anything out but if I did let me know. Or if there's to much information feel free to let me know then too. haha

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November 10, 2009 7:59:55 AM

^ Frankly for your monitor resolution, what you have chosen is a serious overkill...
You will be wasting money on the graphics card and that CPU...
CPU like the AMD X3 720/ at the max X4 955/ Core i5 750 paired with say HD 5770 can play most games maxed out that resolution.

And still you would want to go with a powerful setup, I wouldnt suggest the i7 920 for your needs...The i7 860 would be a better choice...
November 10, 2009 8:11:01 AM

But actually you can add a good 22-24" high resolution (1920x1080) monitor into that budget...That would better compliment such a powerful setup...
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Anonymous
November 10, 2009 8:17:21 AM

Don't the i7 860 use the P55 boards?
I've seen that most p55 boards only do 8x/8x in sli/crossfire and only have dual channel memory. Wouldn't that limit how far you can go with them?

What makes the 860 setup better then the 920?
November 10, 2009 8:26:45 AM

^ Yes the i7 860 uses P55 chipsets...
And Yes those boards do x8x8. But there is no significant real world performance hit between the x8x8 and x16x16 mode...
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3649

And the reason I say the 860 would be a better choice is for the following reasons -
1. The 860 is a 95W TDP CPU compared to the 130W 920 - hence more heat.
2. Because of the low TDP, the 860 would use less power
3. The 860 has a better Turbo mode than the 920, which helps it overclock better than the 920.
4. As the PC is mainly for gaming, you can reduce the overall platform cost by going with the cheaper P55 chipset and 4GB RAM as you wont find any major difference for gaming.
November 10, 2009 8:29:33 AM

If you would have needed a PC for say - Video editing/ rendering, photo editing/ rendering and other graphic rendering tasks, which utilize the additional memory bandwidth of theTri-Channel controllers on the 920, then I would certainly have suggested the 920...
Anonymous
November 10, 2009 8:30:02 AM

hmm Can you suggest a few good P55 Mother Boards that I should look at?
Ones without tons of OC features, but not one with nothing?
November 10, 2009 8:40:42 AM
Anonymous
November 10, 2009 8:47:40 AM

lol Alot more reading and reviews to go through then... thanks haha.
November 10, 2009 8:58:56 AM

^ Yes...It is always better to research completely before you purchase...
Good Luck :) 
Anonymous
November 10, 2009 9:00:54 PM

Hmm. After reading through some reviews and articles I've decided to stick with the i7 920.
In performance the 860 and 920 are pretty equal at the same speeds. The 860 can actually probably reach better with less OCing.

However the 920 and X58 boards seem to be what the higher end Intel chips will be going with.
It has triple channel memory and X16-X16/X16-X8-X8 GPU compared to dual channel and X8-X8-X4

Yes the triple channel memory doesn't make much difference now, but it may begin to in the next year or so.

Also Cades, that's a fan today ^_^'
November 10, 2009 9:58:51 PM

+1 for sticking with i7 920. 4870X2's in crossfire are bandwidth limited by x8 x8 lanes, and the newer directx11 (5870) cards are at least as powerful as those. You've got better long-term prospects on this platform.
November 10, 2009 10:01:15 PM

Quote:
Hmm. After reading through some reviews and articles I've decided to stick with the i7 920.
In performance the 860 and 920 are pretty equal at the same speeds. The 860 can actually probably reach better with less OCing.

However the 920 and X58 boards seem to be what the higher end Intel chips will be going with.
It has triple channel memory and X16-X16/X16-X8-X8 GPU compared to dual channel and X8-X8-X4

Yes the triple channel memory doesn't make much difference now, but it may begin to in the next year or so.

Also Cades, that's a fan today ^_^'



Ahh it is now, this morning it was an acer 23" for 130ish or somewhere around that
November 11, 2009 3:50:32 AM

@Garrek45 going with any of the chipsets is a win-win situation... and about the 920, there is news that i7 930(replacement of the 920) would by the Q1 2010...but that might be a little late for your purchase though...
November 11, 2009 4:04:08 AM

Suggest a 700W PSU, from Antec or Cooler Master, will be perfect for future CFX or SLI
November 11, 2009 4:46:19 AM

For twin GFX cards, I like a big roomy case - Antec 1200 of CM HAF 932

PSU for those (twin GFX and OC) - SG / TP or CP series from Antec (CP super bargain) or Corsair HX / TX series depending on budget.

Memory is all about CAS timings. You listed the 6-7-6-18 Gskills which I opted out of as a choice as the didn't look like they'd fit under many heat sinks. I went w/ the Mushkin Redline 998962's

HD - any HD w/ 500 GB "per platter".

GFX - take your budget and look here: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-graphics-card,...

MoBo P6t Deluxe V2

Optical - Plextor 320AS
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