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Q9650 + gtx 295 + p45 = bottleneck????

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November 11, 2009 10:56:30 PM

Can anyone tell me why I seem to be getting low FPS. I may be expecting to much but I feel like with the GTX 295 my games should be running better. My system is below.. Do you think I have a bottleneck?? Any suggestions welcome..

gbyte p45 UD3R
Q9650 @ 3.2ghz
EVGA GTX 295
4x1 GB Kingston HyperX pc2-8500 @ 1066 5-5-5-15
Raptor 150 gb main drive
pc power and cooling 750 silencer



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November 11, 2009 11:35:06 PM

This is a really good article recently published on this site that investigates bottlenecks in various system configurations with different games.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/build-balanced-plat...

A Q9550 didn't seem to be a bottleneck in the majority of the cases. Except with GTA, Crysis, Far Cry 2, and Stalker. Well, I guess it did bottleneck at 1920 most of the time over a core i7
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November 11, 2009 11:52:51 PM

Software is kind of important. What OS are you using? What games, graphics settings and FPS are you getting that you are dissatisfied with?
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November 12, 2009 2:11:27 PM

I'm running Windows 7. Playing NBA 2k10 and Modern Warfare 2 for now.

MW2
Res 1920x1080 on 37'
AA 16
Getting FPS in the 40s

Just felt like it should be higher. I may be expecting too much.
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November 12, 2009 3:21:32 PM

Lol, turn your AA down... maybe 2x then will have a better fps
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November 12, 2009 5:55:56 PM

I understand this part, but still I thought the GTX 295 was designed to run everything pretty much full? When i turn down the AA doesn't seem to make that much difference.
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November 12, 2009 5:59:24 PM

would I see any gain by throwing a GTX 260 in the case as well to do physix or would that be overkill alongside the gtx 295. I already own the 260 so wouldn't cost anything...
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November 12, 2009 6:07:14 PM

before doing anything I would try to hook up a real monitor, not a TV screen. And see if that is causing your lag spikes.
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November 12, 2009 6:10:49 PM

would that make a difference?? gaming at 1080p is gaming at 1080p regardless isn't it?? And I'm not being smart@ss bout it.. asking for real...
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November 12, 2009 6:13:02 PM

I'm watching the FPS on the EVGA precision while gaming. the games look fine to play guess I'm just over analyzing. Actually gaming looks great... I'm just one of those people that want to make sure its maximized. Don't want to be gaming at 40fps if I'm supposed to be getting 80fps.
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November 12, 2009 6:14:27 PM

Ford F150 is the same ride as a Ford F350, isn't it?
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November 12, 2009 6:15:45 PM

If your grandmother is driving it.. Probably... Thanks for when you used to make sense....
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November 12, 2009 6:57:03 PM

One thing you can do is turn the eye candy off and see if your FPS goes up and drop the resolution to see if that brings the FPS up. If neither does then the GPU is definitely not slowing things down.
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November 12, 2009 7:19:39 PM

thanks dndhatcher... appreciate the help... will try this tonight and see how things go...
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November 12, 2009 7:40:27 PM

Hi, i know this says "SOLVED" already but here is the deal. Your expectation is a bit reaching. When games say high or maximum settings, that does not include settings for AA and AF. Playing MW2 (not much more taxing than COD4) at 1920 is going to look great and play great with your setup at maximum in-game graphics settings. Turning on AF shouldn't cause barely a hit, you should still get over 60 fps.

However, when turning on high level AA the 295 simply cannot handle this, and many other high end games. Remember, the 295 is simply 2x 275's and while Nvidia does decent AA, they've always had performance problems beyond 4x.

If you drop down to 4x or 2x AA, you will get the performance you are expecting. Are you losing much by doing this? Not really because you are already playing at a high resolution which mitigates aliasing to a degree on its own. Simply put, there is no reason for you to be running 16x AA, and certainly no reason to expect that 16x AA would not cause a horrific performance drop. I'm surprised that you get 40fps with that on.
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November 13, 2009 5:32:41 AM

yukon said:
I'm watching the FPS on the EVGA precision while gaming. the games look fine to play guess I'm just over analyzing. Actually gaming looks great... I'm just one of those people that want to make sure its maximized. Don't want to be gaming at 40fps if I'm supposed to be getting 80fps.


I know what you mean! I have gigabyte gtx 295, core i5 750 and in most games, like far cry 2, fallout 3 i get about 40-60 fps, but i know i shoul get about 80fps. Thats why i bought expensive card, to get maximum in all games.
I am not unsatisfied, but i should get far more fps!
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November 13, 2009 3:49:57 PM

Well turned off all of my eye candy and just let the in-game setup do the 4x. I was getting into the 140fps and such in different scenes. Also I ran the PCmark Vantage and getting 19924 as my score. After comparing to other benchmarks with same setup I seem to be getting what I should. Thanks to everyone for suggestions and time on this thread. I'm going to quit maximizing and ENJOY!!
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