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Building my first Rig, will this work if I OC?

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April 3, 2012 5:12:27 AM

If this is in the wrong place, please move it! I'm sorry!

Here is what i'm thinking of building:

MotherBoard
ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU
Intel Core i5-2500K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU COOLER
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU
EVGA 02G-P3-1568-KR GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 2GB 256-bit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU
OCZ ZX Series 850W Fully-Modular 80PLUS Gold High Performance
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM
CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD
Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5"
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CASE
COOLER MASTER HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I will be getting an audio card at some point, though i doubt this will make a difference with my concerns, and I will eventually upgrade the GPU to an ivybridge (hence the MOBO that's overboard)

I do plan on getting a second GPU at some point which is the reason for the larger PSU... It's my first build so i'm hoping that everything will fit in the case I selected (pretty positive) and that the modest extra cooler I'm getting will be enough for me to keep this thing overclocked.

So in a nut shell here's what I want to know:

1) Is the power supply unit going to be overkill even with dual GPU's (i may upgrade them to 580's or better when i have the money... or simply wait for the next best thing :p  .. but bear in mind it may be like 8 months or more before i bother doing that)

2) If i plan to keep it overclocked do i need better cooling?

3) If you happen to have noticed something there that's completely incompatible, this is when you tell me i'm an "idiot" please

4) Should i spring for the SSD to be added on, or is it really not a big deal? I plan to get one at some point, and will probably transfer my OS to it and various other things, but i don't know if i should get it right now or if it's just not that big of a deal.

5) Anything I'm missing here that is absolutely necessary? (obviously minus a monitor/keyboard/mouse/OS)

6) While I have you here, any thoughts/concerns about me using a usb wifi adapter :p 

7) Not a question... but a very gracious THANK YOU To anyone who takes the time to help me out!

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a b K Overclocking
April 3, 2012 5:18:51 AM

Switch the Seagate hard drive out for a Western Digital, they're historically more reliable from my experience. SSD is optional but I wouldn't sacrifice a main drive for it

Don't use Wifi if you can use wired

Everything else on that rig is awesome and is nearly identical to my old desktop with the sole difference being that I had an HD6970 and Antec P183 case.

The two suggestions that I have are that you go with the low profile Vengeance RAM, those heat spreaders are useless and may interfere with your cooling. Also, consider going with a graphics card that's newer than the 560 Ti, perhaps something in the 600 or 7000 series. There are some pretty good benchmarks here on Toms.

Best of luck
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April 3, 2012 5:25:29 AM

Hmm, well I will definitely try to go wired! But in my next apartment I may not actually be able to go with a wired connection... so if I have to go wireless would I be better off going with a PCI wireless? Or is the usb about as good?

Also, with the RAM you say low profile, I'm a little uncertain about what the difference that is with what I have picked out (research project for later today I guess :p  )

As far as the graphics card, I'm trying to keep it on a fairly tight budget for now, So a suggestion that's under the $300 range would be very helpful (but i will definitely check out those benchmarks)

Thank you for the tips :) 
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a b K Overclocking
April 3, 2012 7:40:17 AM

Cushuito said:
If this is in the wrong place, please move it! I'm sorry!

Here is what i'm thinking of building:

MotherBoard
ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU
Intel Core i5-2500K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU COOLER
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU
EVGA 02G-P3-1568-KR GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 2GB 256-bit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU
OCZ ZX Series 850W Fully-Modular 80PLUS Gold High Performance
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM
CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD
Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5"
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CASE
COOLER MASTER HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I will be getting an audio card at some point, though i doubt this will make a difference with my concerns, and I will eventually upgrade the GPU to an ivybridge (hence the MOBO that's overboard)

I do plan on getting a second GPU at some point which is the reason for the larger PSU... It's my first build so i'm hoping that everything will fit in the case I selected (pretty positive) and that the modest extra cooler I'm getting will be enough for me to keep this thing overclocked.

So in a nut shell here's what I want to know:

1) Is the power supply unit going to be overkill even with dual GPU's (i may upgrade them to 580's or better when i have the money... or simply wait for the next best thing :p  .. but bear in mind it may be like 8 months or more before i bother doing that)

2) If i plan to keep it overclocked do i need better cooling?

3) If you happen to have noticed something there that's completely incompatible, this is when you tell me i'm an "idiot" please

4) Should i spring for the SSD to be added on, or is it really not a big deal? I plan to get one at some point, and will probably transfer my OS to it and various other things, but i don't know if i should get it right now or if it's just not that big of a deal.

5) Anything I'm missing here that is absolutely necessary? (obviously minus a monitor/keyboard/mouse/OS)

6) While I have you here, any thoughts/concerns about me using a usb wifi adapter :p 

7) Not a question... but a very gracious THANK YOU To anyone who takes the time to help me out!


to answer your question about cooling, well if you plan to o-clock at some point? than water cooling is the way to go for a first timers (keep in mind that water cooling is not going to allow for high clocks on anything) . there are better cooling solutions, phase change being one of them, (as well as a whole lot more costume solutions) the price for each of these just keeps going up. but water cooling is the easiest of these solutions to learn and understand. if you would like more on this please ask.
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April 3, 2012 3:29:13 PM

toolmaker_03 said:
to answer your question about cooling, well if you plan to o-clock at some point? than water cooling is the way to go for a first timers (keep in mind that water cooling is not going to allow for high clocks on anything) . there are better cooling solutions, phase change being one of them, (as well as a whole lot more costume solutions) the price for each of these just keeps going up. but water cooling is the easiest of these solutions to learn and understand. if you would like more on this please ask.


Yes I absolutely would love more information (:

Now my general understanding of my ram is that at 1600mhz it is not actually able to work with the i5 2500k without it being over clocked. Or did I bite into a bad piece of information I found on the Web?

Also, with a mid size tower like mine will it even have the right amount of room for a fancy water cooling system?
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April 3, 2012 3:52:08 PM

Stick with the 212 evo cooler, keep that sweet psu IMO.
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April 3, 2012 3:55:34 PM

OK swap the psu for a Corsair, XFX or Antec of the same class.
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April 3, 2012 5:13:36 PM

@hydroc10 Thankyou for the suggestions!

Is there a specific reason to switch to those brands? And so you are saying the coolermaster will do just fine in leu of a water cooling system for this particular set up while maintaining it at maximum efficient overclocking levels?
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April 3, 2012 5:39:07 PM

Yes and yes. Those 3 brands are the best according to those here at TH with far more knowlage than myself. That CM cooler is direct contact meaning the heat pipes touch the cpu, before these types were around people would go watercooling, but now it seems a lot don't want to deal with the loud pumps etc.
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a b K Overclocking
April 3, 2012 5:39:30 PM

You don't need to water cool for a slight overclock. but the i5 is a beast processor. what monitor resolution will you be running. a 560 ti can max most games out except 1080;p and about. because vram becomes a issue....i would suggest geting a 680 or Kepler card or a 3gb 580 if you have a high resolution.....once you have the money of course
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a b K Overclocking
April 3, 2012 6:10:32 PM

Cushuito said:
Yes I absolutely would love more information (:

Now my general understanding of my ram is that at 1600mhz it is not actually able to work with the i5 2500k without it being over clocked. Or did I bite into a bad piece of information I found on the Web?

Also, with a mid size tower like mine will it even have the right amount of room for a fancy water cooling system?


no you didn't, but listen to what so of these guys are telling you about your current hardware. now as far as space, you can mount this stuff to the outside of the case. so that the only thing inside, is the blocks and tubing, space issue solved yea it will look like ____ but functional. I never let this sort of thing hold me back, would you like a parts list of what I would buy if I had this, at least it gives you a direction to look at.
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May 22, 2012 8:30:02 AM

toolmaker_03 said:
no you didn't, but listen to what so of these guys are telling you about your current hardware. now as far as space, you can mount this stuff to the outside of the case. so that the only thing inside, is the blocks and tubing, space issue solved yea it will look like ____ but functional. I never let this sort of thing hold me back, would you like a parts list of what I would buy if I had this, at least it gives you a direction to look at.



I would love to hear your thoughts on what parts ect to get with the same motherboard the OP was speaking of. Thanks.
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