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November 19, 2009 11:18:30 PM

Ok I am willing to spend $200-250 on gpu(s) I have a 790fx motherboard so I'm hoping to crossfire to get the most out of my motherboard but if somebody gives me a good reason why I shouldn't crossfire then it's a different story. Anyway I don't need to keep up with the 5xxx series and/or Directx11 unless somebody give me a good, valid reason that I should then I'll consider it. So basically I'm wondering about the following thing:
a) what gpu(s) should I get for around $200-250 (can be less)
b) do the gpu need hdmi
c) newegg charge tax right? o.O (stupid I know...)

I prefer Newegg :( 
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November 20, 2009 2:30:02 AM

Why not a 5850 for a bit more if you can swing it. It will outperform either of those two crossfire setups.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It always take a single card over 2. When you put 2 cards in a system you have to contend with heat. Out of the those two though, i'd go for a 4850. It packs more punch.
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November 20, 2009 6:35:48 AM

Another vote for HD 5850.
But if you only must choose between 4770CF and 4850CF i choose 4850 CF since they perform better
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November 20, 2009 6:59:27 AM

If there is a viable single card solution then go with that setup. It is much better than having 2 cards in CF with more heat + some driver issues.
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November 20, 2009 2:41:37 PM

I'm for 2 4770... Yes it has little less muscle but they are much cooler and need less energy AND are cheaper (at least im my country they are). Don't know why the others advice you on 2 4850's ^^.

What resolution do you play at? what games do you play? and I also thing a 5850 would be very nice IF they were avaiable
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November 20, 2009 2:53:29 PM

Dual 4850's would be my choice. 4770's are kinda weak for the money....

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November 20, 2009 2:57:43 PM

4770 have ddr5 - 128 bit
4850 have ddr3 - 256 bit

i go for 4850 but the big question is 4850 in crossfire could manage dx11?
technology runs faster than we can know it ,so for the middle of next year that crossfire will be obsolete.

Anyway i got one question now, why catalyst just show inside override option 996 mhz memory clocks if all specs about my hd4850 says 1990 or 2000 mhz.

And what it means "x2"
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November 20, 2009 3:10:56 PM

^^ the 4850x2 is considered one of ATI's worst cards. Too many negative reviews (non-Newgg reviews btw) pertaining to the cooling and size of the card. He might as well save up a few dollars and get a 5850 if he is going to spend that much...

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November 20, 2009 7:35:19 PM

OvrClkr said:
^^ the 4850x2 is considered one of ATI's worst cards. Too many negative reviews (non-Newgg reviews btw) pertaining to the cooling and size of the card. He might as well save up a few dollars and get a 5850 if he is going to spend that much...

Except the one I listed is cheaper than the 512MB per GPU solution the OP is considering buying, and in stock, while the 5850 is $300 and out of stock. Big difference.

Early driver support was buggy, the card is long and it doesn't OC well. Cleeve had some issues with the one used back in our Jan 09 SBM.

I'd rather have the 5850, but also wouldn't hesitate to buy a 4850 X2 2GB considering the price is cheaper than two 512MB HD 4850's. No card will beat it for the price. The 4870 X2 is a little quirky too BTW. Nothing that would make me avoid it though.

Here are more user reviews to add to the Newegg ones:
http://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-Radeon-HD4850-PCI-Expres...
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November 20, 2009 7:39:49 PM


Yea, I just wouldnt spend more than 175.00$ on a last-gen GPU. At this point it would not be wise to invest that amount of money on something that will be EOL sooner than later. The 4870x2 is EOL as well....


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November 20, 2009 7:45:49 PM

Yeah, True. Problem is these shortages and price increases. The 4890 is a sweet deal now but other than that the 4800's are disappearing. GTS 250/GTX 260 prices staying level, but 275/285 going up. It's rough now; gave me a hard time picking out the next budget SBM components.
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November 20, 2009 8:08:23 PM

yea, I am waiting on Fermi as well for my next upgrade but it looks like I will have to get me another 260 instead =( ... I am not going to wait another 4 months...
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November 20, 2009 11:42:16 PM

Wait :( ! I asked a few questions and nobody answered the one about HDMI and whether or not Newegg charge tax :(  ima rewrite question
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November 21, 2009 5:20:28 AM

About HDMI,it depends on you what you need HDMI or not,but both 4850 and 4770 have HDMI port,about newegg i don't know since i don't live in US :) 
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November 21, 2009 6:05:28 AM

Maziar said:
About HDMI,it depends on you what you need HDMI or not,but both 4850 and 4770 have HDMI port,about newegg i don't know since i don't live in US :) 


HDMI is when you plug into the TV or something right? I think I might consider doing that :o 
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November 21, 2009 6:11:59 AM

Yes its when for you want to plug it in to a TV (some monitors have HDMI port too)
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November 21, 2009 6:16:17 AM

mijail said:
4770 have ddr5 - 128 bit
4850 have ddr3 - 256 bit

i go for 4850 but the big question is 4850 in crossfire could manage dx11?
technology runs faster than we can know it ,so for the middle of next year that crossfire will be obsolete.

Anyway i got one question now, why catalyst just show inside override option 996 mhz memory clocks if all specs about my hd4850 says 1990 or 2000 mhz.

And what it means "x2"



:(  you should start your thread X_X
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November 21, 2009 11:34:52 AM

wintermint said:
... nobody answered the one about HDMI and whether or not Newegg charge tax :(  ima rewrite question



Newegg will charges tax if you live in California because that is the state in which the business is located.
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November 21, 2009 11:39:57 AM

jaguarskx said:
Newegg will charges tax if you live in California because that is the state in which the business is located.

They'll charge tax anywhere they have operations, including warehouses like New Jersey and Tennessee.
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November 21, 2009 11:43:10 AM

Ahh, I forgot about the warehouses...

Thankfully, I live in NYC so the only things I need to worry about are the high costs of living.
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November 21, 2009 1:48:25 PM

I guess I'll stick with the 2 4850 :o  unless someone got a better solution for under $250
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November 22, 2009 12:52:58 AM

i would have gone for the same 4890 that you purchased. Later on you can add another one if needed. For that price it is a steal =)
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November 22, 2009 4:19:10 AM

OvrClkr said:
i would have gone for the same 4890 that you purchased. Later on you can add another one if needed. For that price it is a steal =)


Too bad mail-in rebates are not a guarantee ._.
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November 22, 2009 8:04:36 AM

wintermint said:
Too bad mail-in rebates are not a guarantee ._.


yea, but 180.00$ is still a good price regardless =)


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November 23, 2009 12:11:12 AM

I'll make it a guarantee :p 
HIS doesn't know who they're dealing with...
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November 23, 2009 12:32:27 AM

Keating said:
I'll make it a guarantee :p 
HIS doesn't know who they're dealing with...


??? what ???


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November 23, 2009 12:33:36 AM

I'll make the rebate a guarantee and argue with HIS if they don't give it to me*
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November 23, 2009 12:36:18 AM

wintermint said:
Too bad mail-in rebates are not a guarantee ._.


I don't understand why people have problems with mail-in rebates. Yes, you have to wait forever for them to send you the money, but if you're not half retarded and have a middle school education the process of sending in the rebate form (which NewEgg & its partners make incredibly easy) is pretty simple. If they deny your rebate or don't send it to you for no reason, you can take it up with NewEgg (or other e-tailers) and they'll reimburse you the rebate themselves.

Also, on-topic, two HD 4770 will use less power and output less heat than two HD 4850, but they will perform a good bit less. If power and heat matter that much to you, get the 4770s, if not, get the 4850s. Also, NewEgg's HD 4850s in particular are way overpriced now due to stock (upwards of $140-50 if I remember correctly) and if other sites are trying to charge you over $100-110 for one don't get it and buy the 4770s, they're still around $110 everywhere.

And as a side note, as has been mentioned before, consider single card solutions like the HD 4890 or HD 5850. They'll provide more upgrade room in the future and will output less heat and use less power.
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November 23, 2009 1:26:38 AM

And also, single-card solutions reduce the chance of a DOA by 50% and reduce the possibility of driver or compatibility issues (on top of more upgrade-room and future-proofing)
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November 23, 2009 1:51:02 AM

Keating said:
I'll make the rebate a guarantee and argue with HIS if they don't give it to me*



ahh gotcha....

would be nice to see 2 of those in CF :o 

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November 23, 2009 2:18:09 AM

I don't understand why no one likes the HD4770 any more. When it first came out everyone around here was crazy about the card, even recommending it when it didn't make sense really and it cost more than an HD4850. Now everyone dismisses it in favor the HD4850 when it costs less, I don't get it. If I remember the card is on average 8% less powerful than the 4850. Crossfired HD4770s use less power than a single HD4870 and are a good amount more powerful than an HD4890. The amount of heat they put out compared to crossfired HD4850s has to be worlds less. To me it's an easy recommendation instead for someone looking to crossfire, even without considering its cheaper and will save even more money every month on your power bill.
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November 23, 2009 10:07:35 PM

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I don't understand why no one likes the HD4770 any more. When it first came out everyone around here was crazy about the card, even recommending it when it didn't make sense really and it cost more than an HD4850. Now everyone dismisses it in favor the HD4850 when it costs less, I don't get it. If I remember the card is on average 8% less powerful than the 4850. Crossfired HD4770s use less power than a single HD4870 and are a good amount more powerful than an HD4890. The amount of heat they put out compared to crossfired HD4850s has to be worlds less. To me it's an easy recommendation instead for someone looking to crossfire, even without considering its cheaper and will save even more money every month on your power bill.


do 4770 in crossfire use else energy than 4850 in crossfire though?
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November 23, 2009 11:40:00 PM

Two HD4770s use only slightly more power than one HD4850
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November 24, 2009 6:08:52 AM

jyjjy said:
Two HD4770s use only slightly more power than one HD4850


Thanks for your help but I'm going to wait it out and see if I can make a better investment in the 5xxx series :( 
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November 24, 2009 7:38:49 AM

Yeah, the HD5xxxs are 40nm like the HD4770 and very power efficient as well. An HD5850 at it's original price of $260 would be a nice buy but at $310 it's a bit of an iffy value imo.
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November 24, 2009 9:04:17 PM

jyjjy said:
Yeah, the HD5xxxs are 40nm like the HD4770 and very power efficient as well. An HD5850 at it's original price of $260 would be a nice buy but at $310 it's a bit of an iffy value imo.


alrighty thanks :)  this thread may die now :D 
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