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November 14, 2009 4:17:33 PM

Ok this is what I am planning on doing for my little brother. It is a gaming build but will be used for media also. We have a 1500 dollar budget on the tower.
Ok so this on newegg comes out to over 1500 but I am a bestbuy employee and I get some of these through bestbuy for cheap. Im not sure if this is a good build or not. I want to see what we can do with this and maybe drop price a little. For example is there a better ram to go with. We want to overclock but not a lot, just a little. We also will add a second graphics card at some point for crossfire. Let me know what you think I should do.

Power supply and Ram combo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
CPU and motherboard combo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU cooler: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GPU: 5870 or gtx 295
DVD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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November 14, 2009 4:25:37 PM

Definitely get the 5870 over the GTX295, you will need a much stronger PSU for 2 GTX295's and they will generate significantly more heat
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Antec 1200 with TP-750 Blue, modular and plenty of power for 2 5870s.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
The platinums are wayy cheaper than the dominators and will perform just as well.

Dont get a raptor as the HDD, it gets beaten by modern 7200 RPM drives in everything but seek time.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/2tb-hdd-7200,2430-1...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Get the F3 as a data drive and get an SSD as a boot drive if you really need fast startup.
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November 14, 2009 4:45:01 PM

Ok well the power supply listed is a 750w one and the one I listed was an 850? Ill go with the platinum. What about the caviar black? I get it cheap at bestbuy? Then we will add a ssd at some point too.
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November 14, 2009 4:59:18 PM

Oh about the graphics card this is for christmas. We would need it to be ready before then. Are these things going to ever be available.
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November 14, 2009 5:11:14 PM

They are in short supply so you have to watch carefully and jump on the first one you find. The 850 is more powerful, but it is also more powerful than you need, the TP-750 saves you quite a bit and wont hinder performance at all.

The 640GB caviar black uses the same 320GB platters as the 1TB model which is on these charts, as you can see the F3 performs better
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2009-3.5-desktop-har...
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2009-3.5-desktop-har...

If you can get a 640GB caviar black for less than the F3 at bestbuy then go for it, but dont get the 500GB model, it uses 250GB platters and will be significantly slower.
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November 14, 2009 5:14:38 PM

The WD black 2TB are the fastest available HDDs, but they also have a cost premium. The 1tb drives cost about half as much per gb, and can be raided for similar performance.
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November 14, 2009 5:25:10 PM

The gtx 295 is a powerfull big brute, but it isn't the best for long term expansion and SLIing. Go with the 5870.

With your cooler, you could overclock your CPU a lot.... I've seen a lot of reviews and they overclock the 920 to 3.2-3.4 with the stock cooler. I can Understad you want to take no risks, but any cooler that's better that the stock one is going to be enough. There's no need to over do something.
And there's something I always wondered, how can one know is a cooler is going to fit in a certain case?

And If you want a SSD how about this one:

It's cheap but got good reviews and is big enough for the OS and the big games.... pair it up with an ordinary 7200RPM one for your data and older games.
I know you wanted an SSD for the future only, but the V series makes SSD quite affordable. there's also a 40 GB version. It's not the fastest, but it's better than any 10000RPM drive. And it looks like the things you'd get for cheap at beastbuy... check if you can't have a go price

Here is a good PSU calculator:

Just know that the given Wattage is the one your system needs, not the value your PSU must have.

I did a generous estimation on the PSU calculator and it gave 666W with means a 830W (or 850) PSU... that's after Xfire, OC and capacitor aging, at 100% load.
I'd get a 850W PSU to be sure it can last for long and handle everything you want for now and the futur.
Oh, and get a modular one, it make things much easier to assemble!!
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November 14, 2009 5:41:05 PM

So you wouldnt go with the 1tb caviar black? Thats the only one I can get as far as I can see through bestbuy.
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November 14, 2009 6:06:01 PM

Is the f3 better the the caviar black?
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November 14, 2009 6:12:49 PM

Is this 5870 worth waiting for or should I crossfire two other graphics cards?
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November 14, 2009 6:13:15 PM

they bout the same with the f3 slightly faster
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November 14, 2009 6:40:43 PM



Is this 5870 worth waiting for or should I crossfire two other graphics cards?
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November 14, 2009 7:36:39 PM

the 5870 is not going to win too many contest on a price/performance level. For example, it has pretty much the same performance as two 4870s in crossfire, which can be found for about $250. It will win pretty much all contest on features, though. It has directx 11 and eyefinity support for 3 monitors. I always try to go for the best performance for a budget, so I would not choose the 5870 right now. But if budget is not a concern, then 5870 or crossfire 5870s will have great performance AND all the latest technology features.
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