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November 21, 2009 8:47:31 PM

i need a great graphics card that can run games like crysis smoothy at max setting under 200$ here are my specsMachine name: MARK-PC
Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6002) Service Pack 2 (6002.vistasp2_gdr.090803-2339)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: HP-Pavilion
System Model: FK572AA-ABA a6642p
BIOS: BIOS Date: 09/05/08 10:24:25 Ver: 5.30
Processor: Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU E5200 @ 2.50GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.5GHz
Memory: 5366MB RAM
Page File: 1806MB used, 9142MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 7.00.6002.18107 64bit Unicode
Card name: Intel(R) G33/G31 Express Chipset Family
Manufacturer: Intel Corporation
Chip type: Intel(R) GMA 3100
DAC type: Internal
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_29C2&SUBSYS_2A6F103C&REV_02
Display Memory: 286 MB
Dedicated Memory: 0 MB
Shared Memory: 286 MB
Current Mode: 1440 x 900 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: HP w1907 Wide LCD Monitoralso
IT ALSO NEEDS TO BE A PCI CARD

IT CAN BE UNDER 300 $

More about : 200 pci graphics card

November 21, 2009 9:04:53 PM

i need PCI not PCI express
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a c 376 U Graphics card
November 21, 2009 11:03:40 PM

According to HP your computer does have a PCI-E x16 slot. You should use it as there are no regular PCI video cards that are any good, assuming you plan on gaming. While looking that up I saw that the standard PSU for your computer is only 250w which severely limits the cards you can use to the point where the best I would recommend is an HD4650. That's a pretty weak card for your resolution so unless you've already upgraded the PSU I would suggest you do so. However, something like an HD4770 will do very well at your res and that card plus a decent PSU should still be under $200.
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November 22, 2009 3:55:07 AM

jyjjy is correct, your pc only has a 250w psu which honestly cant run any practical card. In my opinion buy this psu
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

550w psu which is modular aswell, so you can save ALOT of space in the small hp case and it only costs $40 after rebate.

And then a 5770, which wont use alot of power and will be perfect for your resolution and be able to be used for future games in 2011...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total after rebates: $210 which isnt bad imo.
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November 22, 2009 6:29:55 PM

dude are u sure this is what i should do. will it work because i trust you if u say it will work 100% it will fit it will run crysis 100% on max because i dont want to waste money plz reply and plz make sure t will work 100% i dont know that much about internal hardware stuff
also i will buy all the stuff it takes to play crysis smotthy no lag ever max settings
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a b U Graphics card
November 22, 2009 6:39:59 PM

even the best card in the world ($650) barely handles crysis at max settings
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a b U Graphics card
November 22, 2009 7:00:31 PM

obsidian86 said:
even the best card in the world ($650) barely handles crysis at max settings


+1

Were going to have to wait for like another 5 to 10 years (and maybe more) before just a single gpu and handle crysis.

Now if you giving us the right model number then yes you do have PCI-e 16x slot.

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01...
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November 22, 2009 7:03:16 PM

You will have to spend 1000s just to run crysis on max. I wouldnt buy hardware just so you can play crysis on max because only the latest and greatest can tame the 2 year old beast. If you want better performance pick up this card instead...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

4890 performance better then a 5770 in all games (xcept dx11 games, which wont even start coming out mainstream till 2011). and after rebate with that and the PSU it'll cost $200. You should be able to play crysis at max (no aa or af) at your resolution.
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November 22, 2009 7:10:33 PM

impaledmango said:
You will have to spend 1000s just to run crysis on max. I wouldnt buy hardware just so you can play crysis on max because only the latest and greatest can tame the 2 year old beast. If you want better performance pick up this card instead...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

4890 performance better then a 5770 in all games (xcept dx11 games, which wont even start coming out mainstream till 2011). and after rebate with that and the PSU it'll cost $200. You should be able to play crysis at max (no aa or af) at your resolution.


hey i will buy that and will i need that cooling fan thing or do i ned more stuff to buy .
just list all the items i will need to play crysis on ax according to you 300$ max
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November 22, 2009 7:16:47 PM

Well ok, I play crysis at very high at 1280 x 1024 with a 4890 max with 30-50fps and this resolution has more pixels on the screen then yours so I'd say you should be fine at your current resolution, but your cpu may bottleneck (i have an i7 @ 3.8ghz). I'd probably look at getting a new computer and trying to sell your system in general. If you buy the powersupply and graphic card I told you and wait a little bit save some money you can build a new amd quad core system using the propus.
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November 22, 2009 7:29:07 PM

impaledmango said:
Well ok, I play crysis at very high at 1280 x 1024 with a 4890 max with 30-50fps and this resolution has more pixels on the screen then yours so I'd say you should be fine at your current resolution, but your cpu may bottleneck (i have an i7 @ 3.8ghz). I'd probably look at getting a new computer and trying to sell your system in general. If you buy the powersupply and graphic card I told you and wait a little bit save some money you can build a new amd quad core system using the propus.


thanks i will probably try to build a amd quad core system


can u give me a link to that item plz i7 @ 3.8ghz

btw how do u install this a i7 @ 3.8ghz and a cooling fan
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November 22, 2009 7:40:58 PM

lol I have the i7 920 which comes stock @ 2.66ghz, but I overclocked it to 3.8ghz. An i7 is probably the best processor out right now for consumers, but to build a system running off one your looking at $1000-$1200.
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November 22, 2009 7:44:35 PM

impaledmango said:
lol I have the i7 920 which comes stock @ 2.66ghz, but I overclocked it to 3.8ghz. An i7 is probably the best processor out right now for consumers, but to build a system running off one your looking at $1000-$1200.


would crysis run better if i overlock my cpu and what program would i have to use. and also would my computer break if i overclocked the cpu
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November 22, 2009 7:47:11 PM

i dont think hp computers overclock, and without proper knowledge you could kill your system. I'd either read up about it so when you get a new system you know what to expect.
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November 22, 2009 7:56:35 PM

impaledmango said:
i dont think hp computers overclock, and without proper knowledge you could kill your system. I'd either read up about it so when you get a new system you know what to expect.


can i get a link to a like a good processor thats not overpriced thats overclockable and directions to put it in

btw when i done u will get the best answer award
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November 22, 2009 8:13:00 PM

well it's not the cpu that cant be overclocked it's the motherboard that offers no overclocking features in the bios.

In my opinion I'd buy this motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

this cpu
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

this ram
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

this case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

reuse your old hard drive and disc drive and buy the graphic card and psu I adviced above and then this cpu cooler for overclocking.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

For overclocking look up overclocking guides on google for basic understanding.

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November 22, 2009 8:20:27 PM

impaledmango said:
well it's not the cpu that cant be overclocked it's the motherboard that offers no overclocking features in the bios.

In my opinion I'd buy this motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

this cpu
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

this ram
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

this case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

reuse your old hard drive and case and buy the graphic card and psu I adviced above and then this cpu cooler for overclocking.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

For overclocking look up overclocking guides on google for basic
understanding.


thanks alot dude but one thing i have 6 gbs of ram i dnt think i should replace it
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a b U Graphics card
November 22, 2009 8:25:26 PM

A 4870 or a GTX260 should play Crysis at max (Very High) at 1280x1024 or 1440x900 with AA at around x4...you'll probably get around 30-35fps.
$150-$160

A 4890 or GTX275 can do the same but with AA turned slightly higher and get more fps.
$170-$200
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November 22, 2009 9:08:24 PM

well this ram is ddr3, you need ddr3 for the i5, and this can go to 1600mhz, yours is probably only 800mhz, so actually this 4gb would perform better then your 6gb.
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November 23, 2009 10:17:21 PM

hey dude sorrys to bother you is there a bios unlocker i dnt care if it ruins my warrarty
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November 23, 2009 10:29:42 PM

uh, there probably is, your best bet is google though. Also if you plan to overclock you should look into a new cooler and a better powersupply.
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November 23, 2009 10:34:28 PM

impaledmango said:
uh, there probably is, your best bet is google though. Also if you plan to overclock you should look into a new cooler and a better powersupply.


like water cooling or a fan cause water cooling can be expensive and what kind of power supply
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November 23, 2009 10:47:34 PM

impaledmango said:
well a good air cooler can be pretty cheap (like $30). http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and any 500w+ powersupply from ocz, corsair and antec should be good, just post it up before you buy it.


ok dude im going to bassicly make a gaming computer for christmas as my big present im going to make it off this computer im going to buy these items definalty im odering them soon when im done with a school project im afaid of things though that my 2.5 intel dual core thing wont be that good and that my hp case will run out of room. i will probably get the fan what do u like i should do i think my 2.5 Hertz thing possibly not run at max on cod6 and crysis any ideas

im getting things definaly
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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November 23, 2009 10:50:46 PM

well it'll prob run cod6 on max with that stuff but for crysis you'll prob need a new cpu, especially at that lower resolution where a cpu is more dependent.
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November 23, 2009 10:56:53 PM

i think im in a pretty sucky situation is there a way to put more than one processer and combine the power of two or should i try to buy the one u recommended i really want to play crysis on max good smoothy because when i play games i have to turn down the grahics and i want to prove to myself that i can play all pc games good lol and crysis looks really fun on maxx
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a c 376 U Graphics card
November 23, 2009 11:17:31 PM

I highly suggest you stop worrying about maxing out Crysis. It's just one game and you need insane hardware to max it out. At your 1440 x 900 resolution an HD4770 or HD4850 should give you great performance in almost any game and let you play Crysis on high settings. If you want to spend a few hundred extra dollars to max out the settings and use AA in ONE game then go ahead but to most people without a trust fund its just not worth it.
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November 23, 2009 11:28:36 PM

i know im like being annoying an stuff but is there any perforce mods for vista 64 bit
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November 24, 2009 12:14:42 AM

you can download graphic mods for crysis that make it look and run better, but there really isnt any vista mods that would increase performance in a game...
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a c 376 U Graphics card
November 24, 2009 1:40:02 AM

You don't need a new cooler for your cpu. It would be a good idea if you were overclocking but I really doubt your motherboard will allow you to do so. A shame really as the e5200 can OC very well.
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November 24, 2009 2:08:13 AM

First I dont think that'll fit in your case, mainly because it almost touches the side of my antec 1200 (prob less then half an inch of clearance).

Second I would rather spend money upgrading your core system, rather then through the stress of getting your system to run crysis only.

If you want my advice. Buy the powersupply and graphic card given above. Use those temporarily and down the road when you get more money move to an i5 system.
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November 27, 2009 11:20:02 PM

impaledmango said:
First I dont think that'll fit in your case, mainly because it almost touches the side of my antec 1200 (prob less then half an inch of clearance).

Second I would rather spend money upgrading your core system, rather then through the stress of getting your system to run crysis only.

If you want my advice. Buy the powersupply and graphic card given above. Use those temporarily and down the road when you get more money move to an i5 system.


thanks for all your help but the item http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... got deactivevateed and that is a very big deal can u find another website or something plz
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a c 376 U Graphics card
November 27, 2009 11:32:10 PM

That was a very good deal for the HD4890, you should've grabbed it while it was around. You can still buy an HD4890 but it's going to cost you more. I would just grab an HD5770 and forget about it.
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November 28, 2009 7:56:11 PM

jyjjy said:
That was a very good deal for the HD4890, you should've grabbed it while it was around. You can still buy an HD4890 but it's going to cost you more. I would just grab an HD5770 and forget about it.


can u give me a link to the same hd90 i dnt really care if its more money or if is a supid idea but plz can i have a link to the same exact one on a different website or maybe one thats better and will work on my computer i dnt really know that much about graphics card and power supplies so plz help
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a c 376 U Graphics card
November 28, 2009 8:28:50 PM

This is the cheapest HD4890 on newegg after mail-in rebate(it will take several months to receive your rebate fyi);
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you don't care about the rebate this one is slightly cheaper;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Either are good cards, I'd probably go with the XFX as they have a lifetime warranty and I'm not a big fan of mail-in rebates.

Alternately you could go for an HD5770. Not quite as powerful but it's new, cheaper, DX11 compatible and runs much cooler/more power efficient;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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November 28, 2009 9:08:29 PM

jyjjy said:
This is the cheapest HD4890 on newegg after mail-in rebate(it will take several months to receive your rebate fyi);
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you don't care about the rebate this one is slightly cheaper;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Either are good cards, I'd probably go with the XFX as they have a lifetime warranty and I'm not a big fan of mail-in rebates.

Alternately you could go for an HD5770. Not quite as powerful but it's new, cheaper, DX11 compatible and runs much cooler/more power efficient;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


are those combatiball with windows 7 ultimate
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a c 376 U Graphics card
November 28, 2009 9:11:17 PM

Not just those but any card you might reasonably be considering should be fine with Window 7 in all its forms.
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a c 376 U Graphics card
November 28, 2009 9:27:23 PM

Yeah, that should be fine and is a pretty good deal.
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November 30, 2009 12:06:57 AM

jyjjy said:
Yeah, that should be fine and is a pretty good deal.


k dude i bought it hope it works!
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April 13, 2010 1:34:56 PM

dude just buy the msi r5770 hawk for $175 and later when the price of 5970 drops crossfire it
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a b U Graphics card
April 13, 2010 2:05:33 PM

spexofdust said:
dude just buy the msi r5770 hawk for $175 and later when the price of 5970 drops crossfire it


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a b U Graphics card
October 11, 2010 6:58:44 AM

obsidian86 said:
even the best card in the world ($650) barely handles crysis at max settings


ARRGGGGHHHGHHHHHH!!!! that is a f%$@#& lie!
Here is the truth!;

A Nvidia Geforce 9800GT runs crysis on max perfectly fine and its only $120. I believe the confusion may lie in the fact that it almost impossible to run crysis with AA and AF on full stabily, but you dont have to worry about those because putting the AA and AF half way up will look very much the same.
Crysis ISNT the most graphically demanding game out there, just cause 2 and GTA4 run worse than crysis does, HOWEVER crysis is the second best looking game out there, second to Crysis warhead which runs better than normal crysis... glad i got that off my chest...

The best card for under $200 is the ATI Radeon HD 5770

HOWEVER! others suggested you will need to get a new Power Supply, which is very true. BUT, you will also need a better processor. The processor you are using, the 5200, is very old now and definitly wont be able to handle crysis. I reccomend getting a Core 2 Duo 2.66Ghz as that is good enough to run crysis at max and is fairly cheap now.
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a b U Graphics card
October 11, 2010 7:01:49 AM

spexofdust said:
dude just buy the msi r5770 hawk for $175 and later when the price of 5970 drops crossfire it


You cant crossfire a 5770 with a 5970!
Nor a 5770 with a 5870
Nor a 5970 with a 5870
etc.

You can only crossfire 2 of the same card!


Also...
-2 5770s in crossfire is nearly as powerful as a single 5870
-2 5870s in crossfire is as powerful as a single 5970
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a c 327 U Graphics card
October 11, 2010 10:16:46 AM

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