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November 17, 2009 1:32:33 AM

Hello, ive assembled a computer system meant for gaming, but also to fit my allround needs.


TOWER: Antec Three Hundred
CPU: AMD Black Edition AMD Phenom II X4 955 / 3.2 GHz Processor
MOBO: Gigabyte GA-MA790FXT-UD5P
RAM: Corsair XMS3 4 GB ( 2 x 2 GB ) DIMM 240-pin DDR3 1333 MHz / PC3-10666 CL9 1.6 V
PSU: Corsair TX750W
HDD: WD Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS SATA-300 7200 rpm buffer: 16 MB
GPU: XFX Radeon HD 4850 512 MB DDR3
CD/DVD: Samsung Super-WriteMaster SH-S222A
FAN: 3x 120mm Arctic Cooling AF12025 PWM

There is a 120mm stock fan in the rear and a 140mm top, therfor 1 in the sidedoor and 2 in front for maximum airflow.

The reason for the 750W PSU is for future upgrades like crossfire.

My question to you is, how do you think this computer system will perform in the new released games, settings wise? mid-high/high.


Thanks..


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November 17, 2009 1:39:56 AM

med to med-high
November 17, 2009 1:44:13 AM

Get spinpoint f3 instead of that Caviar Blue HDD, Its faster. Should be in stock in a few days. Also drop down in you PSU wattage.
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November 17, 2009 1:50:45 AM

sonic-boom said:
Get spinpoint f3 instead of that Caviar Blue HDD, Its faster. Should be in stock in a few days. Also drop down in you PSU wattage.


Im not from the US so im not buying at newegg.

Anyway the HDD isnt really an issue i mean the WD is fine..
November 17, 2009 1:53:51 AM

Medium - Medium high as said above, depending on which game of course. Check out benchies for the 4850 for games you are playing right now to get a feel for that.
November 17, 2009 2:00:47 AM

frosty7 said:
Medium - Medium high as said above, depending on which game of course. Check out benchies for the 4850 for games you are playing right now to get a feel for that.


Okay, do you have any recommended sites where i can check out benchmarks for various games?
November 17, 2009 2:10:16 AM

What size monitor do you have? Can't answer how well the 4850 will do until we know how many pixels it has to compute.

I would also suggest you could save some money by dropping the 790FX and getting a 790X or 790GX mobo. Unless you're buying a 5870, you don't need x16/x16 CF setup.

Try to find Ram thats 1333 CL7 instead of 9 if you're going to OC. If not, then the Cas9 will be fine.

The reason the Samsung F3 was suggested was not to knock WD. They make good drives. But the Cav blue uses 2x 250gb platters. The new Samsung uses a single 500gb platter. So each time the drive spins around, the Samsung can read 2twice the amount of data. That results in better performance and since they are probably about the same price, why not go for better performance.

The PSU is heavy, especially for CF 2x 4850s. That only needs the VX550w. The thing the 750 offers is 4xpcie connectors. Even the 650 cant offer that. So if you think you'll end up with 2x GPUs that need 2 power connectors each, you can stay with the 750w, otherwise, its a place to save a few more bucks and get just a 650w.

THG has a great benchmark section.
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/graphics-cards,1.htm...
November 17, 2009 2:27:32 AM

skora said:
What size monitor do you have? Can't answer how well the 4850 will do until we know how many pixels it has to compute.

I would also suggest you could save some money by dropping the 790FX and getting a 790X or 790GX mobo. Unless you're buying a 5870, you don't need x16/x16 CF setup.

Try to find Ram thats 1333 CL7 instead of 9 if you're going to OC. If not, then the Cas9 will be fine.

The reason the Samsung F3 was suggested was not to knock WD. They make good drives. But the Cav blue uses 2x 250gb platters. The new Samsung uses a single 500gb platter. So each time the drive spins around, the Samsung can read 2twice the amount of data. That results in better performance and since they are probably about the same price, why not go for better performance.

The PSU is heavy, especially for CF 2x 4850s. That only needs the VX550w. The thing the 750 offers is 4xpcie connectors. Even the 650 cant offer that. So if you think you'll end up with 2x GPUs that need 2 power connectors each, you can stay with the 750w, otherwise, its a place to save a few more bucks and get just a 650w.

THG has a great benchmark section.
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/graphics-cards,1.htm...



Thanks for all your intput.

My monitor is a 24" LCD Samsung P2450H.

But okay if the Samsung F3 is that much better i think i'll go with it.

The reason for the 750W PSU is because if im gonna crossfire it might be the safest way to have a 750W. But then again i come to think of my 24" monitor, maybe ill need something more powerful than a 4850 to give me great performance.
November 17, 2009 2:29:03 AM

And the FX mobo is so i dont need to upgrade in like ½ year..
November 17, 2009 2:33:15 AM

I miss spoke when I said size, what is the resolution?

A 4850 will do okay on a 1680x1050 monitor. They usually cap out at 22" so I'm guessing you have a 1920x1080. For that, you will want more GPU muscle if you want any kind of gaming performance. Lowest I'd suggest for a 1920x1080 is the 4870 1GB or GTX 260. Now that's lowest and not my first pics. The 5770 would be better for future considerations and perform on par with those two. If you do go with the 5770, it only needs 1 pcie power connector, so you could do the 650TX and still have LOTS of room to CF and the correct number of connectors.

If you have the budget, the 5850 will do even better, but needs 2pcie power connectors and there you should get the 750TX. But you can still get a 790GX or 790X mobo without effecting performance significantly on a pair of 5850s if you ever end up with them.
November 17, 2009 2:46:01 AM

skora said:
I miss spoke when I said size, what is the resolution?

A 4850 will do okay on a 1680x1050 monitor. They usually cap out at 22" so I'm guessing you have a 1920x1080. For that, you will want more GPU muscle if you want any kind of gaming performance. Lowest I'd suggest for a 1920x1080 is the 4870 1GB or GTX 260. Now that's lowest and not my first pics. The 5770 would be better for future considerations and perform on par with those two. If you do go with the 5770, it only needs 1 pcie power connector, so you could do the 650TX and still have LOTS of room to CF and the correct number of connectors.

If you have the budget, the 5850 will do even better, but needs 2pcie power connectors and there you should get the 750TX. But you can still get a 790GX or 790X mobo without effecting performance significantly on a pair of 5850s if you ever end up with them.


My native resolution is 1920x1080 and ye i figured i need something more powerful than the 4850.

I will look into the GPU's.

What do you think of the Samsung SpinPoint F3 Desktop Class HD502HJ HDD?
November 17, 2009 2:50:26 AM

Also im thinking Club 3D HD 4870 instead of the 4850..
November 17, 2009 2:58:02 AM

By the way i choose the 790FX since its cheaper/better for me, than the 790X.
November 17, 2009 3:15:08 AM

If the FX is cheaper, then by all means, go for it. (what site are you using?)

Thats the F3 I was referring too. Great drive, especially for the price.

I'd still look for a 5770 before the 4870. The 4870 will need 1gb of ram, or it has some trouble with AA/AF at those resolutions.
November 17, 2009 3:36:09 AM

skora said:
If the FX is cheaper, then by all means, go for it. (what site are you using?)

Thats the F3 I was referring too. Great drive, especially for the price.

I'd still look for a 5770 before the 4870. The 4870 will need 1gb of ram, or it has some trouble with AA/AF at those resolutions.



The mobo is cheaper because there is a site that sells a combo of CPU/MOBO/RAM and ive found another site and assembled the combo by my self with abit different ram but almost the same and with a FX chipset, and its a bit cheaper that way so im going with that. Its some sites from Denmark, where im from they are both cheap but the one i choose the FX on is cheaper with the 3 COMBO set.

Well the F3 isnt that much cheaper than the WD so its a better choice i guess.

And i found a Club 3D HD 4870 1 GB - GDDR5 SDRAM thats affordable for me.

I found this chart http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html and the 4870 beats the 5770.
November 17, 2009 3:59:26 AM

I found a ASUS EAH5770/2DIS/1GD5 which is affordable and sounds good..
November 17, 2009 4:06:21 AM

Just noticed the ASUS EAH5770/2DIS/1GD5 has 128 bit and the ASUS EAH5770/2DIS/1GD5 has 256 bit, hmm which card is better?
November 17, 2009 5:06:49 AM

You have the same cards listed in that last post. The 5770 uses 128bit memory interface which does limit it compared to the 4870, but not by much. Yes, the 4870 is a slightly better performing card now, but here's the suggestions from the editors here at toms:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5770,2446...
November 17, 2009 8:52:53 PM

skora said:
You have the same cards listed in that last post. The 5770 uses 128bit memory interface which does limit it compared to the 4870, but not by much. Yes, the 4870 is a slightly better performing card now, but here's the suggestions from the editors here at toms:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5770,2446...


Yes meant the 4870 256 bit vs the 5770 128 bit, but i guess the 5770 is better over all..


Anyway, if u dont purchase a cooler for ur CPU and go with the stock, do you still get the cooling paste? or do u need to buy that seperately?
November 17, 2009 8:59:01 PM

I can't find the ASUS EAH5770/2DIS/1GD5 anywhere on asus website, funny..
November 17, 2009 9:05:37 PM

4850 is not powerfull enough for a 24" monitor.
Get a 5770, at least, if you want med-high performance.
November 18, 2009 12:07:14 AM

galta said:
4850 is not powerfull enough for a 24" monitor.
Get a 5770, at least, if you want med-high performance.


Okay thanks for the info
November 18, 2009 12:51:36 AM

The stock HSF will come with paste.

If you read that article I linked, even just the conclusion, it will say the 4870 256bit 1gb is more powerful by a little bit than the 5770 128bit 1gb. But, the 5770 has other features that will close the gap, like DX11 as more titles come out using it.
a b 4 Gaming
November 18, 2009 2:23:35 AM

Hmm i would say for around the same price/performance on the GPU front consider HD 4890 as well
November 18, 2009 4:03:29 PM

batuchka said:
Hmm i would say for around the same price/performance on the GPU front consider HD 4890 as well


Is it better than the 5770 for a 24" LCD monitor?
November 18, 2009 4:35:41 PM

size doesn matter the main thing is screen resolution and yes the 4890 is a bit better then a 5770
November 18, 2009 9:22:01 PM

obsidian86 said:
size doesn matter the main thing is screen resolution and yes the 4890 is a bit better then a 5770


I was told that the bigger the monitor is the better GPU u need?
November 18, 2009 9:26:03 PM

Because of the screen resolution..
November 18, 2009 9:40:49 PM

1680x1050 (1.75 million pixels)

1920x1080 or 1920x1200 (2-2.3 million pixels)

The 4890 will be about 10%-15% faster than the 5770. The question is, does the other upgrades the 5770 offer make up for that %. With current titles, no, because DX11 hasn't been programmed in. But as new titles are released, the 5770 will have better visuals, but the fps might still be a little less than the 4890. Look at the review I linked on the 5770 to help make that decision. If the 5770 can perform well enough for you, I'd get the 5770 because the price will come down, and adding a second one will really outperform a 4890, but the 4890 prices will probably go up since they aren't producing them anymore.
November 18, 2009 10:35:11 PM

skora said:
1680x1050 (1.75 million pixels)

1920x1080 or 1920x1200 (2-2.3 million pixels)

The 4890 will be about 10%-15% faster than the 5770. The question is, does the other upgrades the 5770 offer make up for that %. With current titles, no, because DX11 hasn't been programmed in. But as new titles are released, the 5770 will have better visuals, but the fps might still be a little less than the 4890. Look at the review I linked on the 5770 to help make that decision. If the 5770 can perform well enough for you, I'd get the 5770 because the price will come down, and adding a second one will really outperform a 4890, but the 4890 prices will probably go up since they aren't producing them anymore.


Well i read this review http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2009/10/13/am... and it gave me alot if insight and really im consideringthe 4890 over the 5770, the 5770 maybe has dx11 but still i thinkthe 4890 will give more fps, and im really interested in more fps ofc also nice graphics but i dont think it will be that of much of a difference..
November 18, 2009 11:48:09 PM

Going with the 5850, just gives the best performance at higher resolution and got dx11.

btw, i guess a 750W PSU is enough for 2x 5850?
November 19, 2009 12:08:41 AM

I found out that it does.
November 19, 2009 3:26:44 AM

Nice article. I think they are almost right on with their conclusion. The only thing I would add to considerations is if you want to CF cards, a pair of 5770s will perform great at 1920x1080. If you just want a single card solution, the 4890 is a solid choice too.

750w will be enough for 2x 5850s, 2x4890s, and you'd only need a 650w for 2x5770s.
a b 4 Gaming
November 19, 2009 4:56:59 AM

Other things favouring HD 5770

1. Possible slight bump in performance with maturing drivers
2. Its efficiency i.e generation of X FPS at Y W is really next gen!
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