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November 17, 2009 4:31:39 AM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: within the next month BUDGET RANGE:1200 After Rebates
PARTS NOT REQUIRED: I'm going to need everything besides a mouse (I'm on a laptop now)

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Newegg.com, fries.com

Currently I've chosen these items, I would prefer to get a 5850 instead of the 5770 and would be willing for them to be in stock again.

CPU:
Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80605I5750 - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo/Ram Combo:
GIGABYTE GA-P55-UD4P LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail G.SKILL
Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL7D-4GBRH - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

GPU/PSU
XFX HD-577A-ZNFC Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ700MXSP 700W ATX12V V2.2 / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC ... - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Case
COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Monitor
Acer X233Hbid Black 23" 5ms HDMI Full 1080P Widescreen LCD Monitor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Optical drive
LITE-ON CD/DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Keyboard
LITE-ON SK-1688U/B Black USB Wired Standard Keyboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Speakers
Logitech S-220 17 Watts 2.1 Multimedia Speaker System - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
(I don't know how good these are, i just threw them in there.)


tool kit:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Arctic Silver 5: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Total comes out to 1151 including tax and shipping. I would like to do some basic computer tasks,photo-editing and gaming on this computer, I haven't gamed in awhile but would like to be able to run new games on the highest settings.

Thanks!

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November 17, 2009 4:43:20 AM
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^ That is a very good build...
The only issue that you will have when you go with HD 5850 is that you will need a PCIe power converter when you want to do HD 5850 crossfire later on as that OCZ PSU doesnt have the required power connectors for 2 HD 5850...EDIT: But that doesnt imply that it doesnt have enough power...

But it has enough power connectors for HD 5770 crossfire though...

If you want to overclock, might as well get an aftermarket CPU cooler as it would be better than the stock cooler even at stock settings and even better when overclocked...

And I have seen some ads from Fry's, posted in this forum, which had heavy discounts on the i5 + a P 55 mobo...So do check that out at Fry's...
November 17, 2009 4:08:32 PM

thanks for the advice...

How is the ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2 92mm Fluid Dynamic CPU Cooler - Retail ?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It has good reviews on Newegg and fits the i5..

what do you mean by "But it has enough power connectors for HD 5770 crossfire though...
But that doesnt imply that it doesnt have enough power... "

So it will work fine for two 5770?
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November 17, 2009 7:42:14 PM

5770 is a low power GPU. A 700W PSU should be able to handle 3 or 4 of them. It only has 2 PCIE power cables so it probably doesnt have as much 12V amperage as newer PSU designs and may only handle 2.

Looked at the specs on that PSU. Two 25 amp rails. Its really about a 600W PSU. In fact their 600W PSU has the same two 25Amp rails. For a 700W PSU it kinda sucks. Too much power on the 5.5 and 3.3 rails. It would be great for a system with a bunch of old IDE hdds. :sarcastic: 

I heard newegg had 5850s available recently. You might be able to snag one soon if you keep trying. A 5770 is not going to play max settings at that resolution, it can barely max games like WOW at 1680x1050. It should play at high/very high settings, though.
November 18, 2009 12:15:37 AM

Thanks I will still wait for the 5850 saw an open box one on newegg this evening but it was sold out already.

I decided to go w/ the Corsair 750TX for my PSU and change the case to Cooler Master haf 922. I didn't realize Microcenter had the i7-920 for 200 so I might pick that up instead.

Will this case have issues with an aftermarket CPU fan being too big?
November 18, 2009 12:44:35 AM

glu said:
I didn't realize Microcenter had the i7-920 for 200 so I might pick that up instead.

Did you see they also have the i5 750 for $150 and the i7 860 for $230?
November 18, 2009 2:24:06 AM

@glu for the heatsink, I would suggest this one...
Scythe Katana 3 - Check that this has the i5 support...in newegg, it was not specified...This CPU cooler would be better...
http://www.crazypc.com/products/katana_3-50623.html

As for the statement, I had interchanged the statements and have corrected it now...please read again and you will understand...
What I meant to say is that -
1. The OCZ 700W has enough power for 2x HD 5850 and 2x HD 5770.
2. It has only 2 PCIe power connector - But the 2x HD 5850 requires 4 PCIe power connectors for it to run. And the 2x HD 5770 require only 2 PCIe power connectors...
So for you to run 5850 crossfire, you would need some kind of power adaptor maybe a molex to 6-PIN PCIe adaptor for powering the 2nd HD 5850...

As for the case, the HAF 922 is a very good one and has enough room for big HSFs...
Hope it is clear now...
November 18, 2009 3:05:22 AM

Man, I like your build. I have a lot of those very same parts. You will love that case. I would go with a different psu. I am using the ocz gamexstream. It is 750watt and a lot cheaper. I got mine from Micro Center for $85.00. I have OCed my entire system to the max and have no power problems. I am running a hd 4890 OCed to 930 core and 1050 mem and the CM 690 keeps temps at 71c under full load with stability. I did by a lot of fans for the case though. I have win 7 ultimate and I run a lot of benchmarks and tests on my system. With my setup I don't used all four gigs of ram. I am lucky if I get up to about 60% usage out of it. Until you can find the need for it stick with the four gigs of ram. I wish I had waited a few more weeks for video card purchase and got the 5000 series. I like to game and I push my pc to the limit. I have the same monitor also. If you run it at the max res while gaming 1920x1080, you will be let down with a lesser card from ati. I was running a gts 250 stock speed on the same pc and in crysis I got almost no difference if not worse with the 4890 OCed. I have and amd cpu though. You might get better results with the Intel. Good luck on your build. I know that you will be satisfied when you get it running, I always am when I do a new build. You can always see the difference from your aging pc.
November 18, 2009 5:06:45 AM

Thanks for the advice. I'm looking forward to putting it together and it will be my first build. The 5800 is just so hard to wait for I am getting impatient, but also waiting to see if anything goes down a little during Black Friday. What kind of CPU cooler are you using?
November 18, 2009 9:04:39 PM

The HAF 922 is the widest case I have seen (10 inches) and consequently will hold larger coolers than any other case. I believe you only need an 8 inch wide case to handle most 120mm tower coolers.
November 26, 2009 3:40:10 AM

alright.. thanks for the input.. the last thing i want to do is get a case too small...

I've finally started getting the parts for my new build, well just the monitor, I picked up the 22 inch that was on sale at Tiger Direct. Seems like a pretty good deal and 22 is big enough for me.

Will it be overkill for me to have the OCZ 750 TX for a i5/5850 build and possibly crossfire in a few months?
November 26, 2009 3:50:05 AM

Go with the Corsair 750 for room to x-fire. Its always a good option
November 26, 2009 1:36:32 PM

750 should be more than enough. AMD recommends:
Quote:
500 Watt or greater power supply with two 75W 6-pin PCI Express® power connectors recommended (600 Watt and four 6-pin connectors for ATI CrossFireX™ technology in dual mode)

http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/ati-rad...
November 26, 2009 1:42:36 PM

great thanks for the heads up! What would you choose the HAF 922 or the Antec 900?
November 26, 2009 3:02:39 PM

SVC.com - Thanksgiving Weekend Sale!

They have the OCZ GameXtreme 700W for $39.99 and the 1010W for 59.99. The 1010 is definately over kill but it's ready for anything. Thats how I got mine couldn't pass up the regular 219.99 for 59.99. Works great.

David

David
November 26, 2009 3:15:01 PM

Theres a fellow, it was posted in these forums who has tested up to 4 way crossfire with the 5870's. He has numerous videos since his first testing popular games, apps.
Most stop scaling after two cards. I haven't watched them all yet
search for
hd 5870 4 way crossfirex
at youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKQVqcHRos4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRwzqvumvQE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT4xmxC48jU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa091r-O9YM

To me this is definitely a either or situation, this will get you more productivity maybe less headaches. Get another 5870 for crossfire OR just install one 5970.
Have Fun ! Let us know.
November 26, 2009 3:17:21 PM

notty22 said:
Theres a fellow, it was posted in these forums who has tested up to 4 way crossfire with the 5870's. He has numerous videos since his first testing popular games, apps.
Most stop scaling after two cards. I haven't watched them all yet
search for
hd 5870 4 way crossfirex
at youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKQVqcHRos4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRwzqvumvQE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT4xmxC48jU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa091r-O9YM

To me this is definitely a either or situation, this will get you more productivity maybe less headaches. Get another 5870 for crossfire OR just install one 5970.
Have Fun ! Let us know.



Cool thanks..maybe you looked at the wrong thread. I'm looking for 5850. Thanks anyways, videos seem interesting
November 26, 2009 3:28:57 PM

Sorry , this was info for another thread. oops. Enjoy your new computer. I built a similar rig as this last week. Used the ud4p gig motherboard , i5 same as this. Its all good. Choosing a motherboard gets confusing with all the choices. With Gigabyte alone there are 5 boards between 100-200 for the 1156. The main thing (i guess) is if you want 2 pcie slots for potential crossfire or sli.
December 5, 2009 5:36:03 PM

I have purchased my cpu i5, a CM Storm Scout, and a 21.5 inch Acer HD monitor. I'm debating between the gigabyte ud4p or one of MSI's mobos cause it has OC genie. I've never OC'ed before and this looks like a handy feature to have.. i've seen a couple reviews on Youtube and nothing bad so far.. what do the experts at Tom's think?
December 7, 2009 2:42:19 AM

^ The MSI boards are also a good option...If you dont want to risk overclocking yourself, then go ahead and get that MSI board...Specify which board are you looking at ?
December 7, 2009 3:53:43 AM

If goin the MSI route then I would either go with the GD55 or the GD65.. I may stick with the Gigabye UD4P because there is a combo deal for it with the TX750 PSU. Will OC'ing on a Gigabyte mobo be difficult for a noob who has done some research?
December 7, 2009 5:15:03 AM

^ I dont think it would be difficiult...For a decent overclock, you should be fine...Only when going extreme, you would have to play with many settings...
January 8, 2010 4:01:22 AM

Thanks to the people who have helped me on this thread. I finished building today and it posted on the first try. Windows 7 install went smooth as well. The sticky was a big help. Thanks again!
January 8, 2010 12:38:38 PM

Congrats, enjoy your new rig.
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