SB XtremeGamer install issues

[Trekker1]

My onboard sound went a few weeks back, and I found an XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Pro (I had a small budget, and it was there, I know there are much better cards. I don't have them.) for cheap on Craigslist. I installed the card yesterday, and it shows up in the Windows Device Manager about two dozen or so times initially as VGA Device, PCI Device, and Multimedia Audio Controller. After driver installs the VGA Device entries change to Creative X-Fi Audio Processor (WDM) in the proper category, and the others stay without drivers in the Other Devices category. Any reason for this?

The drivers appear to have installed fine (although it took about an hour to do so, because it was installing for all two dozen or so instances) but then I get the Windows Code 12, not enough resources. No duh, right? I've tried safe mode to delete the other installations of it, but as soon as I boot into Windows normally, they pop right back up. I've tried one other PCI port, but not the other 3 or so, that's on my list.

I haven't seen anything like my problem, so I apologize if this was in a thread somewhere already. I also had problems putting it into words to search for haha!

Thanks for any help!

 

[chriscornell]

Welcome to Creative - The #1 company in the world when it comes to lazy driver-development.

I'm presuming that you are running Windows 7?

I have the exact same problem with my Xtreme Gaming audiocard, Open-AL is 98% hiss and I have a pci-device that Windows won't recognize.

I've downloaded the "latest" driver dating back to June 2009! and to quote Eddie Izzard:

"It does not work"

Did you do an automatic install? If so, try unzipping the driver and installing it manually through the device manager.

My "Xtreme Gaming" soundcard is my last Creative product EVER! btw

 

[Trekker1]

OH haha, I probably should have stated I'm using Windows XP Pro SP3...How silly of me.

I've tried every which way of driver installation, they all seem to work fine. At this point it looks like it's a hardware/Windows problem, so I can't even complain about any driver issues. Well, besdies it not getting rid of all the "other" sound card entries.

 

[Trekker1]

Maybe this will help in any diagnostic, as I'm at a loss.



As of today, the computer won't display any video when the card is installed...I assume it's actually booting, as the noises are normal, but the mobo LEDs display VGA Error. Did I get a bad card perchance?

 

[outlw6669]

Looks that way.
Unfortunately that is the risk with purchasing used parts off the net...

If you are still in the market for a new sound card, ASUS Xonar Ds is currently $35 after MIR on Newegg.
It will match your X-Fi card for sound quality and has much better driver support.

 

[Trekker1]

Yeah I think there's something bad with the card. Or maybe an incompatibility with my motherboard? I do have an nForce4 chip, and I do remember hearing something about Creative cards and nForce chipsets...but I don't remember what version(s).

Tried it on Ubuntu Karmic today (finally got the computer to boot normally with the card in, only took about 430284302 resets) and "lspci -v | less" gave me essentially the same output as the Windows Device Manager:

[cpp]01:00.0 VGA compatible unclassified device: Creative Labs SB X-Fi
Subsystem: Creative Labs Device 002c
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 11
I/O ports at c000
Memory at fe000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size=2M]
Memory at d0000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size=256M]
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernel modules: snd-ctxfi

01:01.0 VGA compatible unclassified device: Creative Labs SB X-Fi
Subsystem: Creative Labs Device 002c
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 11
I/O ports at c020
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernel modules: snd-ctxfi

01:02.0 VGA compatible unclassified device: Creative Labs SB X-Fi
Subsystem: Creative Labs Device 002c
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 11
I/O ports at c040
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernel modules: snd-ctxfi

01:03.0 VGA compatible unclassified device: Creative Labs SB X-Fi
Subsystem: Creative Labs Device 002c
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 11
I/O ports at c060
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernel modules: snd-ctxfi

01:04.0 VGA compatible unclassified device: Creative Labs SB X-Fi
Subsystem: Creative Labs Device 002c
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 11
I/O ports at c080
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernel modules: snd-ctxfi

01:05.0 VGA compatible unclassified device: Creative Labs SB X-Fi
Subsystem: Creative Labs Device 002c
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 11
I/O ports at c0a0
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernel modules: snd-ctxfi

01:06.0 VGA compatible unclassified device: Creative Labs SB X-Fi
Subsystem: Creative Labs Device 002c
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 18
I/O ports at c0c0
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernel modules: snd-ctxfi

01:07.0 Unclassified device [0081]: Creative Labs Device 0085
Subsystem: Creative Labs Device 00ac
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 11
I/O ports at c0e0
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Memory at <ignored> (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Expansion ROM at <ignored> [disabled]
Capabilities: <access denied>

01:08.0 IDE interface: Creative Labs Device 0105 (prog-if 00 [])
Subsystem: Creative Labs Device 012c
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 11
I/O ports at <ignored>
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Memory at <ignored> (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Expansion ROM at <ignored> [disabled]
Capabilities: <access denied>

01:09.0 Token ring network controller: Creative Labs Device 0205
Subsystem: Creative Labs Device 002c
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 11
I/O ports at c400
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Capabilities: <access denied>

01:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs Device 0405
Subsystem: Creative Labs Device 042c
Flags: ?? devsel, IRQ 11
I/O ports at c420
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Memory at f8000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size=64M]
Memory at <ignored> (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Expansion ROM at <ignored> [disabled]
Capabilities: <access denied>

01:0b.0 DMA controller: Creative Labs Device 0805
Subsystem: Creative Labs Device 082c
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 11
I/O ports at c440
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Memory at f0000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size=128M]
Memory at <ignored> (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Expansion ROM at <ignored> [disabled]
Capabilities: <access denied>

01:0c.0 VGA compatible unclassified device: Creative Labs SB X-Fi
Subsystem: Creative Labs Device 002c
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 11
I/O ports at c460
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernel modules: snd-ctxfi

01:0d.0 Class 2001: Creative Labs Device 2005
Subsystem: Creative Labs Device 202c
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 11
I/O ports at c480
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Memory at <ignored> (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Expansion ROM at <ignored> [disabled]
Capabilities: <access denied>

01:0e.0 Class 4001: Creative Labs Device 4005
Subsystem: Creative Labs Device 402c
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 11
I/O ports at c4a0
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Memory at <ignored> (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Expansion ROM at <ignored> [disabled]
Capabilities: <access denied>

01:0f.0 VGA compatible unclassified device: Creative Labs SB X-Fi
Subsystem: Creative Labs Device 002c
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 11
I/O ports at c4c0
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernel modules: snd-ctxfi

01:10.0 VGA compatible unclassified device: Creative Labs SB X-Fi
Subsystem: Creative Labs Device 002c
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 11
I/O ports at c4e0
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernel modules: snd-ctxfi

01:11.0 VGA compatible unclassified device: Creative Labs SB X-Fi
Subsystem: Creative Labs Device 002c
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 11
I/O ports at c800
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernel modules: snd-ctxfi

01:12.0 VGA compatible unclassified device: Creative Labs SB X-Fi
Subsystem: Creative Labs Device 002c
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 11
I/O ports at c820
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernel modules: snd-ctxfi

01:13.0 VGA compatible unclassified device: Creative Labs SB X-Fi
Subsystem: Creative Labs Device 002c
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 11
I/O ports at c840
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernel modules: snd-ctxfi

01:14.0 VGA compatible unclassified device: Creative Labs SB X-Fi
Subsystem: Creative Labs Device 002c
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 11
I/O ports at c860
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernel modules: snd-ctxfi

01:15.0 VGA compatible unclassified device: Creative Labs SB X-Fi
Subsystem: Creative Labs Device 002c
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 11
I/O ports at c880
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernel modules: snd-ctxfi

01:16.0 VGA compatible unclassified device: Creative Labs SB X-Fi
Subsystem: Creative Labs Device 002c
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 11
I/O ports at c8a0
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernel modules: snd-ctxfi

01:17.0 VGA compatible unclassified device: Creative Labs SB X-Fi
Subsystem: Creative Labs Device 002c
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 11
I/O ports at c8c0
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernel modules: snd-ctxfi

01:18.0 VGA compatible unclassified device: Creative Labs SB X-Fi
Subsystem: Creative Labs Device 002c
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 11
I/O ports at c8e0
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernel modules: snd-ctxfi

01:19.0 VGA compatible unclassified device: Creative Labs SB X-Fi
Subsystem: Creative Labs Device 002c
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 11
I/O ports at cc00
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernel modules: snd-ctxfi

01:1a.0 VGA compatible unclassified device: Creative Labs SB X-Fi
Subsystem: Creative Labs Device 002c
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 11
I/O ports at cc20
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernel modules: snd-ctxfi

01:1b.0 VGA compatible unclassified device: Creative Labs SB X-Fi
Subsystem: Creative Labs Device 002c
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 11
I/O ports at cc40
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernel modules: snd-ctxfi

01:1c.0 VGA compatible unclassified device: Creative Labs SB X-Fi
Subsystem: Creative Labs Device 002c
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 11
I/O ports at cc60
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernel modules: snd-ctxfi

01:1d.0 VGA compatible unclassified device: Creative Labs SB X-Fi
Subsystem: Creative Labs Device 002c
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 11
I/O ports at cc80
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernel modules: snd-ctxfi

01:1e.0 VGA compatible unclassified device: Creative Labs SB X-Fi
Subsystem: Creative Labs Device 002c
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 11
I/O ports at cca0
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernel modules: snd-ctxfi

01:1f.0 VGA compatible unclassified device: Creative Labs SB X-Fi
Subsystem: Creative Labs Device 002c
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 11
I/O ports at ccc0
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernel modules: snd-ctxfi[/cpp]

 

[Trekker1]

If you are still in the market for a new sound card, ASUS Xonar Ds is currently $35 after MIR on Newegg.
It will match your X-Fi card for sound quality and has much better driver support.

Thank you for the recommendation, but from what I've read, the DS is one of the few Xonar cards that doesn't have solid Linux support yet. It would suck to only be able to have sound on my secondary OS Though I did notice that MIR deal, and I'm still debating it, probably until the last minute haha.

 

[outlw6669]

It should work if you use the standard C-Media CMI8788 drivers :/
The OS should not be able to tell the difference.

Yeah, I have heard of issues with Creative and the nForce chipsets.
Never what you describe, mainly clicking and popping in the audio.
These issues where supposedly fixed with the updated Titanium series drivers...
Perhaps you could stick the card in a friends system and see if there are any issues booting then?

 

[Trekker1]

Yeah I'm going over to a friends house for a party today, I'll slip it in his, although he has a newer Intel chip board, so I don't know what help it'll give me. I suppose to just confirm that the card itself isn't bad.

I did find an 80 page thread over on the creative forums about the nForce4 conflict, and mine matches right up with it. Oh well, 5 years too late. So at this point it looks like either get a new motherboard to suit this card, or a new sound card to suit my motherboard. Maybe I'll get some resell value out of the X-fi.