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Price Drops on ATi HD5000 Series Cards Anytime Soon?

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November 23, 2009 1:05:38 AM

When do you guys think we will see a price drop on the HD5000 series cards? I am dying to get one. I am willing to spend a couple of extra bucks for a good card for my new system, but they seem to be hanging around $150 for 5750, and $180 for 5770.

I am trying to determine whether I should be getting a mid-high end HD4000 series card or a mid/mainstream HD5000 card.

Thanks.
November 23, 2009 1:10:44 AM

Aw shucks....Your right. That process is apparently screwing them over because its like the smallest fab ever. I guess I will be getting a 4670,4770, or 4850. =/
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November 23, 2009 1:48:55 AM

XD_dued said:
No price drops any time soon, but price increases. The supply is low because AMD is having yield problems with the 40nm chips.

http://www.anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=654



AMD is a fabless company. They do not manufacture anything. Period.

TSMC is having production issues with their 40nm process. This affect both AMD and nVidia 40nm GPUs. There is no foreseeable resolution to improve yields beyond roughly 42%.
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November 23, 2009 2:03:18 AM

So much for making production cheaper eh?
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November 23, 2009 8:19:31 AM

I think that the price of Radeon HD 5000 series would drop during Christmas after TSMC would successfully fix the 40nm yield issues but if the supply is still low and the 40nm yield issue hasn't been fix by that time then maybe they would not drop the price very soon.
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November 23, 2009 8:45:29 AM

Yep. At first it was guite "sure" that the prise of 5000 series would come down a little bit after Nvidia Ferni release, but because Nvidia is allso suffering from TSMC 40nm production problems, the situation does not change even when and if Ferni comes out, because there will be even less of them, than ATI 5000 series chips...
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November 23, 2009 9:16:16 AM

I really dont think the yeilds are directly linked to the price of these cards, sure if th eyeilds were better they would have more room to manouver but i wouldnt expect a big drop in price should the fabs suddenly become 90% yeild overnight.

Mactronix
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November 23, 2009 9:21:21 AM

Not enough competition for that to happen :) 
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November 23, 2009 11:36:02 AM

Techno-boy said:
I think that the price of Radeon HD 5000 series would drop during Christmas after TSMC would successfully fix the 40nm yield issues but if the supply is still low and the 40nm yield issue hasn't been fix by that time then maybe they would not drop the price very soon.

TSMC still have issues as far as i know and it take several weeks for full production cycle to create chips, so if TSMC fix process now there will be more HD5xxxx maybe in about 6-8 weeks.
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November 23, 2009 2:05:10 PM

xrodney said:
TSMC still have issues as far as i know and it take several weeks for full production cycle to create chips, so if TSMC fix process now there will be more HD5xxxx maybe in about 6-8 weeks.


I don't think that the problem would easily be fix by now because TSMC's CEO promised that this problem would be fix by the end of year or Christmas so the estimation of when this issue would be fix would be about 4-5 weeks or by late next month of December (If we assume that this article is correct).

Digitimes article: TSMC 40nm yield issues resurface, CEO promises fix by year-end:
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20091030PD209.html

But for the time for shipping these 40nm GPUs, I am not sure. Anyway, I bet that the manufacturers located in Asia Pacific might be the first one to get these 40nm GPUs once they are being fix but people in North America might have to wait longer.

However, there is still no confirmation that TSMC had successfully fix 40nm yields issue for the moment. :( 
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November 23, 2009 11:03:40 PM

Yeah, it would be nice if they fixed that.

I guess I will wait for late December/Early January for a price drop, and I will buy right when it goes down. 5750 is supposed to be mainstream but its about $150. Mainstream is usually targeted at Sub-$100 pricing.

Maybe 5750 will drop to about $100. At that point, it will be mine. =)
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November 26, 2009 4:48:42 AM

Oh? I'm getting mine ASAP for my mum.
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November 26, 2009 5:06:24 AM

2 more weeks
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November 26, 2009 5:10:01 AM

Why 2 weeks?
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November 26, 2009 5:33:26 AM

Productions gone up, problems fixed, cards on shelves, not saying therell be price drops, as there alot of back orders to fill, but theyll at least be coming in quantity
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November 26, 2009 5:38:29 AM

Maybe I'll buy in Jan.
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November 26, 2009 5:40:33 AM

The 58xx series may see the drop back to launch prices by then
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November 26, 2009 7:14:06 AM

Im still waiting to see what the non referance cards are like.

Mactronix
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November 26, 2009 9:03:49 AM

Make hay while the sun is shining! No price drops coming soon i guess, at least till GT300 gets out! And that's a long time away. Why should ATI cut profit margins when there's no competition. :sol: 
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November 26, 2009 9:25:02 AM

I was waiting for the non reference version with non reference cooler and I might get something like Radeon HD 5890 in the early 2010.

Wikipedia was also predicting that Radeon HD 5890 might even use 22nm GPU instead of 40nm GPU which is very interesting but it's hard for me to believe that is going to happen. If that is true then this means that we are quickly moving/transitioning from 40nm to 22nm by 2010. :o 
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November 26, 2009 9:37:48 AM

32nm is still believable! 22nm is a bit too much!
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November 26, 2009 9:39:55 AM

As if.

Anways, non-references are coming out, as I have my eyes on a Vapour X HD 5750.
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November 26, 2009 10:02:43 AM

Well Q4 2010 is a long wait! I am planning to get one within the next few months, drop or no drop!
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November 26, 2009 10:04:05 AM

Well, nobody knows!
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November 26, 2009 10:09:35 AM

amdfangirl said:
As if.

Anways, non-references are coming out, as I have my eyes on a Vapour X HD 5750.


Im looking at a 5770, must say the Vapour X has had some good reviews. Its quiet im looking for this time around.

Mactronix
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November 26, 2009 10:14:36 AM

amdfangirl said:
As if.

Anways, non-references are coming out, as I have my eyes on a Vapour X HD 5750.

HD5750 is too low in performance. HD5770 is better. I think ATI should get something between 5770 and 5850. There's a huge gap in between.
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November 26, 2009 10:17:17 AM

Guess its take a gamble time folks, Do you want one ? If so you got two choices. Bite the bullet now and pay whats being asked or take a gamble that the price will come down at all.
I think there is a very real possability that if Nvidia dont release competative cards before a few of the better DX11 games are released then there may well be rises never mind drops.
Im happy with what i have for now, if i had not upgraded in june then i would be getting a non referance 5770 as soon as one i liked hit the stores, but as it is i need to justify the outlay and just cant pay what i see as over the odds just for DX11. Thats my personal view from my set of circumstances.
Anyone with a card (ATI) that starts with a number lower than a 4, well than it makes sense but for me not really. If i have to wait for the Northern Islands cards then so be it.

Mactronix :) 
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December 12, 2009 12:26:16 PM

Well, it's funny. It's not necessarily a supply and demand cure as a increased manufacturing cost. I mean, come on, AMD's MSRP for a 5850 is $259, now you can get one for $315...

Well, for now it looks like I'm stuck with the 5770 instead of the 5850 for now...

The Sapphire 5770 with Vapor-X looks promising...
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December 12, 2009 8:25:51 PM

My local Fry's started dropping their prices, 279.99 and 379.99 for the 5850 and 5870 respectively.
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December 14, 2009 9:49:03 AM

Zinosys said:
Well, it's funny. It's not necessarily a supply and demand cure as a increased manufacturing cost. I mean, come on, AMD's MSRP for a 5850 is $259, now you can get one for $315...

Well, for now it looks like I'm stuck with the 5770 instead of the 5850 for now...

The Sapphire 5770 with Vapor-X looks promising...


I know, just found out it existed!

Glad I didn't buy the HD 5750... length is the same and price difference isn't that high.
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