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Phenom II x4 955 BE vs Intel i5 750

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November 18, 2009 5:46:35 PM

Hi ppl!

For me the time to upgrade my Pc has come now and i'm not sure about CPU, i've been on the anti-intel side since the times of the old Cyrix 686 and the first AMD Kx processors but i'm intelligent enought to accept to change side in favor of the best performance.

At this time my system runs:
AMD Athlon 64 3500+
3 Gb of mixed 333 and 400 mhz (crappy but not my fault)
2x 120 Gb. Ide HD
LG IDE DvD recorder and Plextor CD recorder
and a brand new Asus Ati 4670 1g since my old XFX 7600 pro died last week.

Not to say that anything i build will be way faster for me compared with my actual build but like the title says i'm not sure about CPU

The two options are:
Phenom II X4 955 BE + Gigabyte MA790FXT-UD5P
Intel i5 750 + GIGABYTE GA-P55-UD4

So i came here to ask you guys to help me out, and don't worry i wont use any of my old parts for the new build, besides the CPU and Mobo i will trow 4gb of DDR3 1600, Ati 4870, SATA2 HD, Thermaltake 750w PSU, Sata DvD recorder, etc.

Sorry for the wall text :) 

cheers!

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November 18, 2009 5:52:57 PM

i5 750 > Any AMD desktop chip
November 18, 2009 6:01:06 PM

I prefer the AMD build because the AM3 socket's not likely to be obsolete in a couple of years. While it might not matter if you're not planning to upgrade in 2 years or so, but if you were to fry the CPU and not the mobo, you would be able to find good parts for it. I also like the mobo better, as there's more more to expand.

I also don't like how Intel had to put out a CPU (a single choice) specifically to bridge the gap between AMD prices and i7 prices. That recks of being abandoned as soon as there is any kind of price change.

I know the i5 might get better performance today, but I think its worth the tiny difference to choose something that offers flexibility down the road. But that's just my two cents...
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November 18, 2009 6:17:54 PM

I would go with the AMD about the same and cheaper...
November 18, 2009 6:31:47 PM

AMD = Better upgrade path (probably up to 2011), reasonably priced
i5 = Significantly better performance across the board (yes, even in gaming), no upgrade path (other than the i7-860), uses less power.
November 18, 2009 6:46:07 PM

Yes very true, I'd just rather go for something more upgrade promises than something with absolutely no upgrade path.
November 18, 2009 6:56:56 PM

At this point i have to say i'm almost sure i won't made a significant upgrade for about a year and a half or so, sure i'll add more RAM and maybe change the Video Card or add another one in the near future but what i'm looking for it's best performance with an upgradable platform, to be honest i even think to get slower CPU like the X2 550 BE or the X3 720 since they are cheaper than the X4 and upgrade to it when it's need it but i'll stick with the X4.

Thx for your answers guys!
November 18, 2009 7:01:58 PM

There's a downgrade path for the 1156, Core i3 is coming out soon.

Personally, I don't care for an upgrade path. When I upgrade, I'm building everything new. I don't like using used stuff. I usually craigslist the whole thing and start from scratch.

The OP wants the best performance. You can't get that with AMD. AMD is for people who hope someday that they will get an AM3 CPU better than anything Intel has. If you want performance, Intel is the shiznit. If AMD releases something that will out perform Intel, I won't hesitate to go back to AMD.

I like AMD. I use them in my media PCs, but not in my gaming and video editing machines.
November 19, 2009 12:36:40 PM

I have to say that if i want it to be Top performance my choice will be one of the i7 but i think the X4 955 will fill my needs well and hope it won't get obsolete too soon, atm i'm not making upgrades as often as before and like masterasia i usually do it from scratch but i like to think about the "if's" ;) 

Thanks guys!
November 19, 2009 1:24:58 PM

Ok guys this is the entire HW list

Phenom II X4 965 BE
GIGABYTE MA790FXT-UD5P
Case THERMALTAKE ELEMENT T
750W THERMALTAKE 14C 80PLUS QFAN PSU
2x 4 GB ( 2X2 GB) DDR3 1600 CORSAIR CL9 = 8 Gb.
1 TB SATA2 SEAGATE 7200 32MB
1GB ATI SAPPHIRE HD4870 PCX DDR5
SAMSUNG DVD-R/+RW SH-S223F

I think it's a solid build to last almost 2 years without mayor upgrades, but i still have some questions about the PSU, like you can see i'll go for the TT 750w 14c 80 plus but there are another options like the TT EVO BLUE series in 650w and 750w they are a little cheaper but i'm not sure if they have the 80 plus feature, also the Corsair TX or HX series seams to be a good option.

The other thing is about the RAM, the mobo supports 1333 /1066 and 1600 OC so since the board needs to be OC to support the 1600 is ok to place this type of mem or should i get the 1333 and OC to 1600?.

cheers!
November 19, 2009 1:51:17 PM

get the 955, it is a factory mild overclocked cpu, you can do that by yourself and save the money.
are you sure you need that powerful psu?
what brand is that seagate hd?
November 19, 2009 3:25:14 PM

Hi Daggs!

I'm not sure i need the 750w PSU that's why i'm asking about the 650w option, the brand of the HD it's seagate and if you mean the model i belive it's a cuda.

Agree with you about the 955 but the price difference here in europe it's only 20 eur. is not that much.

Now thanks to a friend i'm considering an i7 920 build and my brain it's about to burn :p 
November 19, 2009 3:31:20 PM

The price of the 955 and 965 are close, but they're basically the same. Why pay an extra for the same?

As far as the i7 builds, you're going to have to drop a lot more for a basic i7 build. Like $100-$200 on the CPU to get the worst i7, probably $50 on the mobo and at least $50 for triple channel RAM. I don't think the extra $200-$300 (or the euro equivalent) is worth it, especially since it will be obsolete in 1-2 years...
November 19, 2009 3:43:20 PM

tecnicomp said:
Hi Daggs!

I'm not sure i need the 750w PSU that's why i'm asking about the 650w option, the brand of the HD it's seagate and if you mean the model i belive it's a cuda.

Agree with you about the 955 but the price difference here in europe it's only 20 eur. is not that much.

Now thanks to a friend i'm considering an i7 920 build and my brain it's about to burn :p 

I think that the 650 is enough, about the hd keep away from the 7200.11 they have a faulty firmware.
if you think you're better with the i7 go for it, if not get the 955, it is only 20 euros, but with that you may be able to get a better gpu
November 19, 2009 5:23:37 PM

lol i'm about to call the doctor :p 

These are the two final options, note the PSU it's 750w but i can change it for the 650w the only thing here is about going crossfire later on.

Intel Build
INTEL CORE i7 920
ASUS P6T DELUXE V2
SAPPHIRE ATI HD5770 PCX 1GB DDR5
500 Gb. Western Digital SATA2
6 GB ( 3X2 GB) DDR3 1600 CL9 CORSAIR TRIPLE CHANNEL

AMD Build
Phenom II X4 955 BE
GIGABYTE MA790FXT-UD5P
SAPPHIRE ATI HD5770 PCX 1GB DDR5
500 Gb. Western Digital SATA2
2x 4 GB ( 2X2 GB) DDR3 1600 CORSAIR CL9 = 8 Gb.

:D 
November 19, 2009 5:35:54 PM

tecnicomp said:

AMD Build
Phenom II X4 955 BE
GIGABYTE MA790FXT-UD5P
SAPPHIRE ATI HD5770 PCX 1GB DDR5
500 Gb. Western Digital SATA2
2x 4 GB ( 2X2 GB) DDR3 1600 CORSAIR CL9 = 8 Gb.


My suggestions...
I'd go with this MOBO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
This PSU will be enough: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
For sure this HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM (Since you just said Corsair, but I'd go with this): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You'll save some money on the PSU and HDD :) 
November 19, 2009 6:13:30 PM

Ups sorry o forget to tell you guys the Intel build it's only 100 eur more xpensive than the AMd
November 19, 2009 6:16:25 PM

Yeah... your just gunna get "fan boy" asnwers tho... Say me I like AMD.. So of course I am going to say AMD.. Same for intel (just like xbox 360 and ps3) :D 

But I like how the x4 is unlocked also.

November 19, 2009 6:38:11 PM

Yeap i know nekko, that's why i came here hope some neutral answers came along too, like some already show.

I'm AMD's fan my self but i'm not blind and for once i have the opportunity to build a nice not top but close system with not much money cap, knowing the Intel CPU and their Mobos are always more xpensive for once if it worth the effort i can afford the investment.

In this case what i like about the X4 is the fact that even been a little slower than the i7 the AMD it's newer and the intel have more time out on the market and at this point maybe that's why the X4 should last longer.
November 19, 2009 6:46:20 PM

I fully agree with that.
November 19, 2009 7:04:06 PM

Totally bias comments from AMD fanboys.

I'm neutral and I like the best. If AMD was the best, which it's not, then I'd choose Intel. All benchmarks have Intel winning 9/10.

Anyways, the OP already chose the X4 965 so we should take our AMD vs Intel nonsense somewhere else.
November 19, 2009 7:05:04 PM

And you sir are the biggest intel fanboy so you can't say a word.
November 19, 2009 7:29:54 PM

Agree with nekko...and he's saying he wants an Intel build (I think?). Are you wanting to go with the i5 or straight to the top with an i7?
November 19, 2009 7:49:02 PM

The i5 is no longer an option, i think the X4 it's a better choice, but against the i7 the thing is different.
November 19, 2009 7:56:00 PM

Yeah, but you get the x4 you can put money else where too.
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