Unbelievably bad review.

http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] ,2473.html

Even for THG's usual bias this is just beyond anything that can be excused. Just look at that garbage there and tell me that THG isn't in Nvidia's pockets.

Jenny,
If you'd like some more ATI-oriented reading, I'd invite you to check out the following:

http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] ,2474.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] ,2446.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] ,2433.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] ,2422.html

Enjoy!
Best regards,
Chris

So you are admitting that this was a pro nvidia article? Shouldn't that be noted in the article btw?

Some of the results seemed funky to me as well, but i dont think it was bias on the part of the reviewer, but instead preferences some programs show for nVidia vs ATI
http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] 73-11.html
A GTS250 beating every ATI card but the 4870x2 indicates that that benchmark has some obvious preference, and it might be best if it was left out in the future. Also something was definitely off with the HAWX results, the MSI GTX275 with no overclock should not be outperforming the GTX285 in the test by as much as it is in the bottom chart, even the additional memory doesnt explain it as there is a GTX260 with 898MB immediately below.
http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] 73-13.html
Something about the results seemed funky, but i dont think its bias, but the fact that some programs obviously skew the result like last remnant.

Shhweeet!

Why not just read the bloody review and make up your mind based on that, not who brought it to your attention?

Or is that too much for you to figure out yourself?

The other way around? When did that last happen btw? Give me ONE time that ever happened.

You aren't reading the review because *I* brought it to your attention? Why don't you do me, yourself and everyone else a favour and totally ignore my posts from now on? I won't miss your input believe me.

TY Chris, you as well

be good nvidia has the moneyz to pay for pr, frankly any benchmark that isn't done via a benchmarking tool is bound to be a bit inconsistent, the inclusion of the last rem is odd as it obviously favors nvidia cards to a point that's it's an obvious bais and unless the game is popular it should be not used as a benchmark.

It would be even better if the author were here answering a few questions.
I think having the EOLd parts represnting ATI, while not mentioning the cost of the 275, which is as exspensive as a 5850, which isnt EOLd deserves mention thruout the article.
If the author didnt have a 58xx series to work with, explain that, as well as the 275s costs, which does put it in another pricing category, namely the 5850

This isnt an unusual request, as the authors used to venture the forums.
It would do best to help explain why we have what we have, as it did in the past.

How can *any* article show Nvidia in such a positive light?


There is only one possibility - it is paid for by Nvidia. We know what the score is - Nvidia loses at every single price point yet somehow THG manages to manufacture benchmarks that make it appear the other way around.

You want to know how to sell overpriced crap when beaten on pure tech superiority? This is how to do it.

BUY the benchmarks, just like this.

The article benches cards that are eaily available right now. Cards that alot of new builders are considering because they can't get the 5850. The 5850 that went from 269.99 to 310.00, and still not easily available. So the cards in that test are cards gamers are buying RIGHT NOW. You can get a GTS 250 on sale at Best Buy right now for 129.99. People benefit from a article like this. Everyone excited to build a new computer and run in to unavailability of ATI's new offerings need data like this.
I don't agree with statements like :
"When are you going to understand that THG's benchmarks are the laughing stock of the entire industry, and ludicrous decision making like this one here is the reason why?
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the whole of THG is being bought by Nvidia
There has been countless good reviews and praise for Radeon's 5 series cards. Never highlighting the negatives. But extolling the features that exist with the 5850,70 but not so much with the 5770,5750 until this article. Those cards do underperform for their current price/performance ratio (DX11, is a factor or a non factor right now).

What the forward facing one?,yeah not being one you are used to I can see how that might confuse you.

5970 can be skipped simply because that's the only one i would believe they haven't had for a month else there really isn't much of a reason to skip the top cards from ATI esp when you have a 5770 in the mix.

Yeah right, there are so few 5800's around that THG can't do a benchmark of it.

Then mention it, and why.
Then mention what this means in comparison to the articles findings, orr point to a former article?

If Nvidia are buying reviews then that's fine - however there are rules now that should make it clear.

We've seen AMD's 'advertorial' on the 4670. We haven't seen any from Nvidia though? Hmmm. I'm just wondering if laws are being broken now regarding this.

I agree, it needs some clarification.
Itd does say
"Just bear in mind that you'll also pay more for overclocked versions of the most aggressive cards, so before you buy, make sure you aren't indeed paying for the higher-class card, too." http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] 73-18.html
Unfortunately, it fails to mention the 5850 option here

I don't know if anyone has noticed, but all of these cards are in a price range of approximately $80 (with the GTX275 the most expensive). The 5800 cards are much more expensive, tipping the scales at ~$360, well beyond that of even the GTX275, let alone the relatively minuscule ~$180 of the HD5770. Clearly this is targeting the midrange market, not the high end.

Personally I think the GTX260 would have been better than the GTX275 for this particular article as it would have been more in line with the cost of the other two cards, but the 275 is not leaps and bounds faster (just leaps and bounds hotter...), so it's not a major issue.

NVIDIA do not buy reviews. AMD do not buy reviews (but they have done "advertorials" which is well within the bounds of legalities and perfectly fine as long as it's stated). No companies buy reviews.

I probably should have looked at the benchmarks rather than the title and some of the test setup

It may very well be that the 5800 cards were impossible to get a hold of. The US and Asian reviewers seem to get preference with review samples, at least from my research.

Come on this is Germany not Kazakhstan lol. Us Europeans do actually get technology you know?

Actually it is. If you check the German site, this review was published a month ago. There were no HD5800 cards when this review was done

Yea, the 275 was probably more, and the 5850 was probably less heheh

Then getting this premptive old articles here deserves it I guess

WHHHHHOOOOOAAAHHH there heheh
Whered the 5770 numbers come from?

Well we know one thing: The reviewer managed to get a hold of a review sample of the HD 5770, which was released after the 5800 cards. But the 5770 is not a flagship product, and flagship products are something you want reviewed on the sites that get the most traffic. This just so happens to be the US. If you notice, all the launch products are done by US reviewers, not the German or French ones.

EDIT: Oi, stop preempting my posts