I am writing a new thread on tis matter, i am optimizing my pc for Flight sim X......ok guys GPU the 5770 is working great, and phenom 2 x4 I am ordering soon... im still looking for the article i read the black seriese of the cpu is bettering the ati gpus...i formated and lost the link, just plz reply guys because i will soon need to install my new cpu and im looking at a copper heat vent with a fan on it for heat sinc, i have a big heatsinc on tri core alrdy but i know it gets very hot already so im looking at the copper heat pipe + put a fan on the top of it, any suggestions would be great! Also im gonna need some help over clocking had promblems melting lol those were old pcs tho. with the heat pipe, i should be able to open it up allot more, but dont wanna chance it! Also if copper heat pipe and a large fan or if i need to get an alternative source of heat reliefe because i dont know much on the copper heat pipes.... PLZ RPLY im getting emails saying old thread is done so lets keep it alive guys please cuz all of u have helped me a great deal. or post here@ Thx Bonz