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November 23, 2009 4:07:11 PM

Greetings! This will be my second build and I'm looking for a little advice. I used to be a pretty hardcore gamer but now really don't play much at all. I will occasionally play COD 1 and 2, JKA, and CS. The only newer game that I anticipate playing is Star Wars: The Old Republic (MMORPG). I'm out on my own now and don't have too much to spend on a rig. I'm looking to get the most bang for my buck for playing these older games and SW:TOR mixed with some internet usage in there. I ask for help btw because I have a bad habit of overpurchasing, but I would like something that will last about three years.

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Around Christmas

BUDGET RANGE: I guess the range is about $800 before rebates but I'm very flexible to get what I need. ((Cheaper is better though.))

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming, Internet, Watching movies

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: (Keyboard, Mouse, Monitor, headset, OS, Case)

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Newegg but anything is fine as long as they are reliable.
COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: US

PARTS PREFERENCES: I would like to use an ATI card. As far as processor I am going with the I5 unless their is a good argument not to.

OVERCLOCKING: Yes.

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1024X768

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: (Sorry for the generalities of the post. I'm just not well-versed enough to know what I could get by with for the kind of gaming I do.)


Already Bought:

Antec 300 Illusion:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129066

Need to buy:

Core I5: $200


GIGABYTE GA-P55M-UD2 LGA 1156 Intel P55 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard -Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-4GBRH - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7 compatible RR-B10-212P-G1 120mm "heatpipe direct contact" Long ... - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: Could use some suggestions with current build

XFX HD-487A-ZWFC Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Sony Optiarc 24X DVD/CD Rewritable Drive Black SATA Model AD-7240S-0B - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I don't plan on buying it this instant. Gonna wait for my christmas bonus and xmas money. So, no need to do combos just yet. I'll probably bump for that. I just want to make sure everything fits (cpu cooler and vid card in the case) and that it is compatible and smart. Thanks.

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November 23, 2009 4:25:22 PM

Newegg has the Antec EA650 power supply on sale for $80 with a $30 rebate bringing the final cost down to $50. Not bad for a good PSU.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you want something a little better, there is the Corsair 650TX for $99 with a $10 rebate:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You could probably get by with a 500W PSU for your build, but a 650W gives you more flexibility in the future to add more components without having to upgrade your power supply.
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November 23, 2009 4:50:14 PM

If you mean you will be buying October of 2010, check back in september becasue alot will have changed. Assuming that the purchase time is wrong these are the following changes i would make.

First upgrade to a better monitor, 1024x768 wont give you a good experience with gaming, a high resolution, even 1280x1024 will provide you less grainy graphics.

If you arent going to be playing at higher resolutions then you can drop the graphics card down to a less powerful card like a 4670
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You wont notice any performance difference between the ram you pick out and this, but the extra $20 can go towards a nicer monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


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November 23, 2009 5:26:04 PM

Hunter,

Thanks for the reply about the RAM. I'll change it out if there won't be much difference. Also, the October is wrong. I copied it from an old post of mine and didn't catch the typo. Thanks. My monitor actually does support 1280 x 1024. I guess I've just always used 1024 x 768.

Dpaul,

Thanks for the advice on the PSU. I think that by next Xmas I might want to upgrade to a 5870. If I put that card in there, replacing the 4870, will both those PSU still hold up ok or will I have to upgrade? Thanks.

Also, for anyone reading, will the heatsink and video card fit ok in the Illusion?
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November 23, 2009 11:35:06 PM

The power requirements for the 5870 and 4870 are essentially the same. The manufacturer recommends a 500 W or greater PSU for one card, and a 600 W or greater PSU for two cards. Of course, if you have an abnormal system, such as 4 hard drives and six fans, you should use a PSU calculator to determine your minimum PSU requirements. I like this one by Antec:
http://www.antec.outervision.com/
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November 23, 2009 11:47:14 PM

If you only intend to use a single card ever an EA650 will be plenty, if you intend to use 2 high end cards eventually get something like the TP-750 or the 750TX.
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November 24, 2009 12:02:02 AM

I like Hunter's simple "rule of thumb" for power supply sizing. This should be fine for almost everyone, unless you have a very unusual system.
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November 24, 2009 6:36:18 PM

Gotcha. Thanks for the help. I'll probably just go with the Antec Earthwatts 650.
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January 7, 2010 6:48:47 PM

I've made some changes and want to bump this since I'm getting ready to purchase this week. Also wanted some help from the newegg gurus with combos.

GIGABYTE GA-P55A-UD3 LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

XFX HD-489X-ZSFC Radeon HD 4890 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W Continuous Power ATX12V Ver.2.2 / EPS12V version 2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified ... - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80605I5750 - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL7D-4GBRH - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Sony Optiarc 24X DVD/CD Rewritable Drive Black SATA Model AD-7240S-0B - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7 compatible RR-B10-212P-G1 120mm "heatpipe direct contact" Long ... - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

A couple questions on the overclocking ability. I know that the I5 is a pretty easy o/c. This will be my second built computer but first o/c job. Will the hyper 212 and Gigabyte ud3 be able to o/c to 4.0 ghz? I'm not trying to push it past that but I've heard you can get it to that with air. I'm more worried about the mobo then the heatsink. I've seen differing opinions on the abilities of that mobo. If anyone has a better suggestion on the optical drive I'm all ears. I've picked that one for no real reason. Also, if anyone has any suggestions on a PSU that is just as good but cheaper that would be cool. Thanks in advance and I'd love to get some combos if anyone can help me with this. Buying 01/09/10 I think.
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January 7, 2010 8:22:33 PM

Sorry to post twice in a row but I found a really good combo on a OCZ 700w StealthxStream. I saw it on the Tier 2 list but wanted to double check that it was just as good as the Antec Earthwatts. The combo actually makes it cheaper.
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January 7, 2010 10:15:22 PM

Looks generally good.

In case you're buying your i5 and mobo separately, there's currently a combo using the same cpu and mobo you have chosen.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
That's an easy $15 off.

You could also go with a 5770 over a 4890. Sure, you'll lose some performance but you'll gain dx11, energy efficiency, and it costs less. At 1280x1024, there shouldn't be any game a 5770 cannot handle; which is especially true for you considering the current games you play. It'll handle those games well in a 1900x1200 resolution too, if/when you upgrade your monitor, as well as modern games. Also, if you go with a 5770 you could drop to a less powerful PSU.

That ocz psu is fine as a budget PSU.

I don't have any experience with a p55a-ud3, but hyper 212+ is one of the best, if not the best, price to performance cpu coolers. Hard to top unless you want to pay premium for a fenrir/nh-d14/mega shadow, etc. Personally, my i5 can run on 4.2 prime/occt stable with my hyper 212+, though I don't use a p55a-ud3. Also note that each CPU is different and may overclock to different levels.
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January 8, 2010 1:52:23 PM

Thanks for the quick and excellent reply. I've heard really good things about the 212+. I think the ud3 will be fine I just didn't want it limiting my oc. I think I'm going to stay with the 4890. I probably won't have any upgrades for awhile so I want to get the bang while I can get it. By the time the DX11 really comes into fruition, my plan is to upgrade to one 5870/5850. Again thanks for the help.
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