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OverClocking AMD PhenomIIX4 970BE

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hi guys need help again however now im able to get 4ghz in 1.45v in vcore but when im trying to go for further like rasing current muiltiplier to 21x its fail at windows start up however i have tried to put more voltage like 1.5v in cpu vcore still it shows blue screen in windows start up

current bios setting can be seen in below pics






pc config
AMD Phenom IIX4 970 BE
Gigabyte 990fxa-ud5
Coolermaster Hyper 212+ HSF
Antec 300 PC Case
AMD Fire PRo v4800 1GB GDDR5
16gb Corsair XMS DDR3 1600MHZ 1.65V
400 watts PSU





i want to get my cpu to 4.2ghz stable enough to render my 3dsmax and maya scene my aim to overclock is to increase rendering speed and save my time at moment if im running only 3d rendering it runns fine but at soon as i start my after effects app after sm testing it shows blue screen my temps are 59-60 degrees at full load

Those settings are what worked for others, they may not work on other chips, what is the lowest voltage you can run 4GHz on? the heat from 1.45v is whats killing you there, at least in part,
get it booting on as low a voltage as possible, then come back and we'll see about pushing it to 4.2GHz
Moto

hmm ive tried it booting it with by default voltage also it wont boot to windows startup screen it restarts automatically also now in current position im able to get 4ghz super stable by pushing vcore voltage to 1.47 how do i can get high frequncy by low voltage
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Its strange that you need so much Voltage just for 4GHz, my 975 gets that with just 1.325v,
check out the black edition overclocking guide at the top of the section, it goes into much more detail than I can at the moment,
but if you lower voltage as much as possible, then your temps will come down, also, is all your ram matchd sets?
because if not, that can cause issues and mismatched ram can be a bugger to set up right
Moto

are u also using gigabyte 990fxa-ud5 motherboard?

well about my bios setting which i have made to get 4ghz is follows as


muiltiplier =16x
Cpu Host clock = 250
Northbridge frequency = auto 2000mhz
ht link width = auto
Ht frequency = auto 2000mhz
Dram manual mode
Dram frequency = 5x 1333

System Voltage Manual
cpu voltage = +0.075v
Dram voltage =1.650v

Nope, I'm on an AsRock 890fx Deluxe five, but I'm seeing your problem straight off,
you have increased the ref clock and lowered the multi,
set the ref clock to 200, leave it there, set ram timings manually,
start with 1.325v and set the multiplier to 20,
increase the voltage whenever you bsod, but check amd's site for your chips voltage limit, not nominal volts, maximum, should be around 1.55v
also check the sticky up top for black edition clocking, it can explain things better than me :p 
Moto

it wont boot in until the voltage is normal or set high amt then normal

until i put +0.75v above normal it wont boot in also i have tried to raise nb frequency to 2600 and db voltage to 1.2v from 1.100v which was default not sure this i have kep vcore voltage to 1.450 instead of previous 1.475v which was stable and nb frequency and db voltage was auto

according to this pic
http://1173.photobucket.com/albums/r594/vikas_mondal/Un...
your voltage @12v is reaching 12 without any stress test

so first try these
use all default settings
(cpu 200x17.5@ 1.4v,
ram 1600 9-9-9-24-41-2t@1.65v
nb 200x10@1.175v
ht 200x10)
and run furmark+prime95 small fft at same time and see temp and voltages (post the pic)

btw which psu you are using _(model) and how much is its current capacity at 12v (see lable)

psu looks ok,
but some readings are not correct, so use hwinfo64 to check.

You can run ram at 1:4 (means 1600mhz) @ 9-9-9-24-trc41(instead of 34)-2t , but cannot overclock that ram without hitting more dram voltage.

So, now First set every thing at stock
(cpu 200x17.5@ 1.4v,
ram 1333 9-9-9-24-41-2t@1.65v (to make some room)
nb 200x10@1.175v
ht 200x9 (to make some room))
then use 200x20@1.475v and then increase fsb to 210 in increament of 1mhz, and check if it works :) 


(delhi me to 12:30 ho gye hai :p  , ho skta hai ki mujhe neend aa jaye to me kal continue karlunga :D  )

@OP

FYI, most of the phenom II's hit 4.0 GHz at max, anything beyond this will provide no benefit and will be unstable as it requires too much V.Core and custom cooling.

However, 4.2 GHz isn't hard to achieve, but make sure you'll be unable to get beyond this.

Try 200*21 with VCore 1.52 and up the NB Volt by +0.25

You can get 4.5GHz Ilsaml, but you have to be very, very lucky, with good cooling. most I've seen top out at 4.2 as I've mentioned elsewhere but I can't understand why Op is struggling here so much,
If I were him I'd just settle for the 4GHz and call it a day
@true, start at stock and up as needed, but at least you can track what you've done :p 
Moto

Motopsychojdn said:
You can get 4.5GHz Ilsaml, but you have to be very, very lucky, with good cooling. most I've seen top out at 4.2 as I've mentioned elsewhere but I can't understand why Op is struggling here so much,
If I were him I'd just settle for the 4GHz and call it a day.


Unfortunately, that "Good Cooling" refers to a very custom water cooling loop, Since Saint19 was marvelous in OCing and he couldn't get 4.5 GHz stable, there's no luck. Also...It will be beneficial only for that 4.5 GHz you say, beyond this you need LN2. :sol: 

Quote:
on eBay in US cheapest 1090T or 1100T was like $225 a few days ago, do not remember which one.



Can't remember which chip, or which day? :p 
Honoured to call you Brother man
@Op, take it easy, save those settings as a profile, that way you can always come back to them as a known stable point to start from
Moto

im using thermal paste provide by coolermaster hyper 212+ my case is antec 300 by default it got 2 fan one 140mm at top another in rear 120mm and atm case is open a/c is on

yes i want to go for 4 if possible more in low voltage and abt the temp tommorow morning ll reduce the layer of thermal paste may be when 2day ago i was cleaning an reapplying may be i made it thicker layer may be tht is reason of high temps

dude it morning 1:48am cant at moment just tell the way to get 4.1 ghz ill try the same after i lighten the load of thermal paste for today ll use this setting for my 3d rendering

Quote:
something about exams and ????
I don't speak the language.. :p 

mal me bruddah, its a code language known as hindi using english alphabet:p 

almost the same set-up as me....
AMD Phenom II X4 975BE @ (4.0GHz) Deneb
GIGABYTE GA-990XA-UD3
XIGMATEK cobra - d984 92mm HYPRO
Wintec One 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600 CL9
Antec Three Hundred Illusion - (3 x 120mm,
140mm fan)
now the questions is do you want to try (4.0 or
4.1GHz) or leave it there since it seems those
temps are about (the max to MY comfort zone).? said:

almost the same set-up as me....
AMD Phenom II X4 975BE @ (4.0GHz) Deneb
GIGABYTE GA-990XA-UD3
XIGMATEK cobra - d984 92mm HYPRO
Wintec One 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600 CL9
Antec Three Hundred Illusion - (3 x 120mm,
140mm fan)
now the questions is do you want to try (4.0 or
4.1GHz) or leave it there since it seems those
temps are about (the max to MY comfort zone).?

your board is cheaper :lol:  :na
Our work here is done.
Moto said:
Our work here is done.
Moto

:??: 

truegenius said:
according to this pic
http://1173.photobucket.com/albums/r594/vikas_mondal/Un...
your voltage @12v is reaching 12 without any stress test

so first try these
use all default settings
(cpu 200x17.5@ 1.4v,
ram 1600 9-9-9-24-41-2t@1.65v
nb 200x10@1.175v
ht 200x10)
and run furmark+prime95 small fft at same time and see temp and voltages (post the pic)

btw which psu you are using _(model) and how much is its current capacity at 12v (see lable)




ive tried this one also it get me 4.2ghz but it doesnt remain stable although increasing bus speed give my ram divider so ive to choose between 1666-1329..forgot exact figure did in morning time need solution for low vcore voltage

ok i got unstability after long time in following setting:

Muiliplier ratio :20x [4000]
Nb Frequency : 10x [2000]
Cpu Host Clock: 200
Ht link Width : auto
Ht Frequency : 10x [2000]
dram Freuency : 6x[1600]
dram voltage : 1.650v
Cpu vOLTAGE :+0.50v

ohh
w8 i did sm new setting now
Muiliplier ratio :20x [4000]
Nb Frequency : 13x [2600]
Cpu Host Clock: AUTo
Ht link Width : auto
Ht Frequency : auto
dram Freuency : 6x[1600]
dram voltage : 1.650v
Cpu vOLTAGE :+0.50v
NB Voltage : 1.10v
Cpu Nb : 1.25V

but i got i error in prime 95 one of the worker stop following is image:


making it from 34 to 41 this error wud go?

Its no big deal, you are increasing the processor to improve performance, if you have to lower the ram to balance that, you still benefit overall :) 
I have to run mine at 1066 to get 4.5GHz stable usually, I really don't notice any slowing down at all
Moto
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