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November 24, 2009 11:34:25 PM

I have been offered by a friend of mine 1500$ CANADIAN for my pc. Wondering if you guys think it's a fair deal or not. The components are as follows.

-NZXT Lexa Blackline Case
-700W OCZ fatality power supply
-EVGA 790i ultra monther board
-Intel Q6600 Processor
-4GB DDR3 OCZ Platinum Ram 1600MHZ (not sure of the timings I believe it to be 9-9-9-24 but i'll have to check next boot.) EDIT- Checked them and they are actually 7-7-7-24
- EVGA 9800GX2 registered with lifetime warranty.
- WD Green 1.0TB drive
- LG sata dvd burner
- Windows 7 pro installed (legal copy!)
- Cooler master V6 cooling fan.

I'm asking for two reasons. One I don't want to rip him off, so if you all think the value of the pc is bellow that then please let me two. And Two I don't want to get ripped off, so if you think it's worth a couple hundred more let me know as well.

(Reason for selling - Upgraded to an X58 build. Just waiting for the nvidia 3 series to hit before finishing the new one.)


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a c 104 B Homebuilt system
November 25, 2009 12:49:08 AM

A fair price to me would be new price on all hardware (installed or equivalent) less 20 - 40% depending on relation ship with purchaser. Win7 at full price.
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November 25, 2009 2:01:22 AM

Though I would find that to be good advice, much of the products there are discontinued. But to give you an idea the present retail value of all parts (NOT INCLUDING INSTALLATION,TAX,OR SHIPPING!) would be 1850.00 CAD so by your standard you are suggesting a price of 1100-1480. Which would suggest his current offer to be a good one. I find 1100 for such a computer (especially considering the GPU) to be a bit low. But if one factored in tax, an installation fee, and shipping it would be around 2062. In the case of including such variables you are suggesting 1230-1650$. I will assume you want me to include all costs the person would incur if they were to buy the product itself when doing the calculation. A decent system of getting a general idea and that would put me more in the middle rather than over charging him which I prefer. If however the others believe it is worth only 1480$ then obviously I will have to lower my price as I would not be giving him a very friend worthy deal.

My question however to clear it up, is how much would this computer be worth to YOU! Estimations based on retail value are fine, but when some parts do not exist, or have newer versions one must take into consideration what people would actually be willing to pay. Considering the EVGA 790I ultra is probably one of the best motherboards ever released some are willing to pay more for it, simply because they do not want to pay the premium on the classified. Etc. And this particular person loves the 9800GX2 and sees no reason to purchase a newer product (either do I to be honest, I need higher processing power, not GPU for rendering and such.). But at the same time, even though they are both very high end, they are still old, and this affects the price (Especially since a X58 board and all equipment for it would cost you only about 700-800 more than his 1500$ offer. So it may or may not truly be worth 1500$ this is my question.)

Anyways thank you for your advice, it is most appreciated. Keep those answers coming :) 
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a c 104 B Homebuilt system
November 25, 2009 2:24:09 AM

I usually sell my old hardware on ebay as is. I have often got same or more money than I paid for it in the first place. The thing is though when trying to put a price on a complete computers like yours it gets difficult. Take your GPU as an example it was very expensive in its time but now you can buy HD4870 for 150USD and have similar performance in most games.

To answer your question though I would not buy your old computer for 1500CAD because I could build similar performing system for less than 1000USD brand new.
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November 25, 2009 3:00:32 AM

If you can give me a plausible build that will give the same frames per second in game as well as be as fast for doing multi tasking and rendering etc I would gladly respect your advice. But considering a 4870 is out performed by a GTX280 in almost every benchmark by 10-15 fps, and not to mention that the GX2 is generally on par with the 280 or surpassing it I would consider that a lower quality build. And what kind of processor were you thinking of implementing etc? I just don't see how you could get the same performance at such a cheap price, then again 1000USD is what 1200CAD almost? Keep in mind USD prices on parts are also cheaper than here. Seems more like an argument based on ATI VS Nvidia. Ati have always been known as being better price vs performance, but it's not really what I was asking. If you were to buy a similar graphics card now you'd be looking at a GTX 280 which goes for 400-600Cad, far more than your quoted 150USD radeon. But then again I did ask for what it was worth to you, and you are basing it off of a price vs performance view rather than a enthusiast view, which is a perspective I must also take into consideration :) . Thank you for your advice.

If I find that indeed the computer is worth far less than 1500CAD then I will take your advice and go to ebay with it and sell the individual hardware pieces :) .
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a c 104 B Homebuilt system
November 25, 2009 5:04:34 PM

Cart Item List:

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Antec EarthWatts EA750 750W Continuous Power ATX12V version 2.3 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC

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-$20.00 Instant
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$64.99
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MSI 790FX-GD70 AM3 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard

MSI 790FX-GD70 ATX AMD Motherboard
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AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor Model HDZ955FBGIBOX

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor
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OCZ Obsidian 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model OCZ3OB1600LV4GK

OCZ Obsidian 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory
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-$32.00 Combo
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$426.97
$394.97
Grand Total: $874.93
add to that $140 for win 7 pro and subtract $80 in mail in rebates.
We can always dispute hardware choice but if I was building today I would select HD5850 instead of the HD4850x2

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November 25, 2009 8:34:19 PM

Once again you are arguing AMD/ATI vs Intel/Nvidia. The 4850 X2 is on par with the the GX2, but the MSI motherboard is nothing in comparison to the EVGA 790i Ultra. Ram is same, PSU is same, HD is same, case costs less, but a case is preference more than anything. AMD Processor vs intel proccessor, no offence but intel wins in speed, and with the EVGA board and the cooler master V6 I've had no problem clocking my Q6600 to 3.2GHZ and beyond.

You didn't include an aftermarket HS/F, or an optical drive. You also did not add taxes, or shipping. Which makes your value rather off, not to mention the fact that it is a retail windows 7 pro not oem, so it can be installed on his next build should he decide to change in the futures.


There is nothing wrong with the build you're making what so ever, but it is a budget gaming build, based on inferior products. That build would not give you the same performance as mine, ESPECIALLY if you factor in overclocking abilities. Keep in mind that this is not just looking for graphics for gaming, it is a build for rendering and photoshop as well. Your build may produce similar fps in a game, but as far as multi tasking, and multi threaded applications go it would get decimated by the one i`m selling. I respect your opinion, and thank you for replying. You have already given me your point of view, and I do think I will lower the price for him by at least 200$ after taking consideration your build, but it is still inferior.
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a b B Homebuilt system
November 25, 2009 9:14:36 PM

Your computer is a core 2 quad. Inherently I could build one similar to what the other guy was doing but with a Core i5 and a matching mobo. (and since I'm near a microcenter I can get a i5 for $150) This would almost certainly overclock as well. It's the nehalem line that is so much better than AMD's, not the C2Q.

Another fact, ATI is the performance leader at the moment, so any enthusiast high end comp would be using a 5970 or at least a 5870 or two. nVidia hasn't even said anything about DX11 so anything from them could largely be vaporware.
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November 25, 2009 9:35:14 PM

quite being so damn picky, give your buddy a deal and OFF LOAD your old system, be happy u are getting some decent money for it.
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a c 104 B Homebuilt system
November 25, 2009 10:22:04 PM

thanatos_gx said:
Once again you are arguing AMD/ATI vs Intel/Nvidia. The 4850 X2 is on par with the the GX2, but the MSI motherboard is nothing in comparison to the EVGA 790i Ultra. Ram is same, PSU is same, HD is same, case costs less, but a case is preference more than anything. AMD Processor vs intel proccessor, no offence but intel wins in speed, and with the EVGA board and the cooler master V6 I've had no problem clocking my Q6600 to 3.2GHZ and beyond.

You didn't include an aftermarket HS/F, or an optical drive. You also did not add taxes, or shipping. Which makes your value rather off, not to mention the fact that it is a retail windows 7 pro not oem, so it can be installed on his next build should he decide to change in the futures.


There is nothing wrong with the build you're making what so ever, but it is a budget gaming build, based on inferior products. That build would not give you the same performance as mine, ESPECIALLY if you factor in overclocking abilities. Keep in mind that this is not just looking for graphics for gaming, it is a build for rendering and photoshop as well. Your build may produce similar fps in a game, but as far as multi tasking, and multi threaded applications go it would get decimated by the one i`m selling. I respect your opinion, and thank you for replying. You have already given me your point of view, and I do think I will lower the price for him by at least 200$ after taking consideration your build, but it is still inferior.


I have always built systems based on price/performance ratio. It so happens that today AMD has better prices on their quad cores that is the only reason I picked x4 955 which at stock clocks beats stock Q6600 which is getting old. By the way I am typing this on a computer with an Intel CPU. Out of the seven computers in my home 4 have Intel CPU´s and 5 have nvidia GPU´s all bought at the time, guess what, the price was right.
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November 26, 2009 4:17:43 AM

i reckon u should use an AMD quad core,
just a bit cheaper then intel
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November 27, 2009 6:26:56 AM

Its worth only what a buyer will pay no matter how much you think it is/isnt worth.
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November 27, 2009 7:41:09 AM

Since you can get way better and newer parts for approx $1'300 I'd consider $1'000 or less a fair price.
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November 28, 2009 12:55:45 AM

Thank you all for your advice and input. After careful browsing I have given it to him for 1100$, 1500 was simply unfair even though he offered it. I appreciate all your assistance in this matter :) .
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