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November 25, 2009 12:03:21 AM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: this week

BUDGET RANGE: 1200-1400 Canadian excluding parts I have below

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: gaming, media server, watching movies

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, monitor (Dell U2410 1920*1200), speakers, OS, hard drive (have SSD and a 2gb hitachi)

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: ncix.com and will be price matching with other online sites for black friday!!!

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: Canada

PARTS PREFERENCES:

OVERCLOCKING: Maybe

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920x1200

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: I would like a quiet PC, preferably with lots of SATA ports on MOBO and lots of hdd bays


Parts Needed

Case- was thinking antec 1200 but not sure it will hold the latest graphic cards such as 5870 (currently beyond budget but if I upgrade it would be nice to not need a new case). also would like quite a few 3.5 bays if possible

Motherboard- would like to have quite a few sata ports if possible

RAM-unknown

Processor- thinking of i7 920

Video card- thinking of NOT a 5870... prob beyond budget but not at all available anywhere and want to get now. also not a MAJOR gamer but would like something that can play the latest games even if not at highest res. One other important thing to note is that I am looking to have a 3 monitor setup... maybe not all 3 for gaming, but would like a card that can support 3 outs at once

Power supply-unknown

Cooler-unknown

DVD Drive-unknown

All help appreciated- if there's anyway I can get feedback soon that would be awesome as I would like to submit order on friday including price matches!!!
November 25, 2009 12:28:26 AM

Case: The 1200 is huge and will fit anything. An Antec 900 or 902 should also be big enough. Also consider the HAF 922 or 932.

CPU: Probably not going to be able to afford a good i7 build. i5's are still really good for gaming. $220
Or you could go with a AMD Phenom II X4 955. $190

RAM: Look at some G.Skill Ripjaws. $110

GPU: Radeon HD 5770. $172 It's a good substitute for the uber 5870.

PSU: Corsair 650TX $110

Optical: Anything that's cheap

Mobo: i5: GIGABYTE GA-P55A-UD4P $210
AMD: GIGABYTE GA-MA790GPT-UD3H $140

Should leave plenty of room for the case and cooler.
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November 25, 2009 12:35:55 AM

MadAdmiral said:
Case: The 1200 is huge and will fit anything. An Antec 900 or 902 should also be big enough. Also consider the HAF 922 or 932.

CPU: Probably not going to be able to afford a good i7 build. i5's are still really good for gaming. $220
Or you could go with a AMD Phenom II X4 955. $190

RAM: Look at some G.Skill Ripjaws. $110

GPU: Radeon HD 5770. $172 It's a good substitute for the uber 5870.

PSU: Corsair 650TX $110

Optical: Anything that's cheap

Mobo: i5: GIGABYTE GA-P55A-UD4P $210
AMD: GIGABYTE GA-MA790GPT-UD3H $140

Should leave plenty of room for the case and cooler.



Thanks for taking the time to reply... I know from reading other sites that the 5870 will only fit in a 1200 if it uses up one or two drive bays...

Also noticed the budget in my subject line is not my real budget! can go between 1200 and 1400, not 1000 as per the subject line. can't see how to edit the subject line... sorry for the confusion
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November 25, 2009 1:24:36 AM

Totally missed the difference there. An i7 is in range then.

As far as the 58xx cards go, if you're looking to buy parts on Friday, you're probably out of luck for finding them. They sell out in minutes online.

Here's the cheapest LGA 1366: i7-920 $310.
If you want to spend more, the next highest is the i7-860 for $20 more, and will fit the previous motherboard. After that, you're looking at over $600.

If you go with the LGA 1366 CPU, here's a good board: ASUS P6T for $280. You're also going to need to get triple channel memory, like G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR3 1333 for $168.

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November 25, 2009 1:35:36 AM

Thanks for the great comments

What do you think of this build?

328.99 i7 920
303.18 Antec bundle 1200 and antec cp 850 PSU
250.16 Asus P6T Mobo (not deluxe)
174.99 Powercooler ATI Radeon 5770
234.99 Corsair dominator 6gb ddr3 1600
49.99 Xigmatech dark knight cooler
33.97 Samsung dvd burner 22x

Total 1375 Cdn. think I can get some things down (920) by price matching for example newegg.ca is $20 cheaper. The antec 1200 bundle with PSU seems like a great deal. wouldn't mind putting some extra $ in for a 5850 put probably won't find one and I'm also not a major gamer. Ram might be overkill... but it is a good discount, regular 280 but was a special deal with the mobo..

Think i shoudl get the P6t deluxe or does it matter?

Also recall I have an ssd HD, and another HD, and windows

Any feedback appreciated
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November 25, 2009 1:53:44 AM

It's a good build, but the 850W PSU is overkill. Crossfiring will usually only need a 750. You might want to see if it's cheaper to buy a smaller PSU outside of the bundle (I'm also not sold on Antec PSUs, but that's more of a personal choice).

I would stick with the regular mobo, unless you really need the extra 2 SATA connections or the 2 extra USB slots.

I would look into other RAM. I know its in a combo, but the board doesn't list DDR3 1600 as standard memory (could just be Newegg). You'll also save a bit by dropping down to DDR3 1333.

Getting a 5850 if you're not a gamer would be overkill (by like $175). The 5770 is a good choice.

The only potential issue would be the RAM, so check that out. Other than that, it's a good build with as much upgrade potential you can get with Intel.
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November 25, 2009 1:03:16 PM

Thanks very much to mad admiral for the great feedback and suggestions.
I think I'm going with the following but do have some concerns...

on the Mobo front, i would like to have lots of sata ports... also the P6T non-deluxe is getting a bit older... does anyone have any better mobo recommendations?


328.99 i7 920
303.18 Antec bundle 1200 and antec cp 850 PSU
250.16 Asus P6T Mobo (not deluxe)
174.99 Powercooler ATI Radeon 5770
168.99 G skill ddr3 1333 6 gb
49.99 Xigmatech dark knight cooler
33.97 Samsung dvd burner 22x
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November 25, 2009 4:47:02 PM

The i7-920 processor and X58 motherboard are old technology, and past their prime. Intel will be coming out with new i9 processors and motherboards in 2010, but these will be expensive because they are not targeting the home PC user.

The i5-750 processor and P55 motherboard are the latest technology, and this system will easily outperform the i920 system. If you are running a single graphics card, the i750 beats the i920 every time:
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=364...
Surprisingly, if you run two graphics cards, the i750 still beats the i920 computer in some games, but the performance of the two systems in essentially equal:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i5-gaming,2403...

Keep in mind that the P55 motherboards for the i750 tend to be substantially cheaper than the X58 motherboards for the i920. In addition, for gaming you only need to buy two sticks of DDR3 ram for the P55 motherboard compared with three sticks for most X58 boards, which save even more money for the same performance. You should be able to save about $200 USD when you take into account the cost savings associated with the differences between the processors ($90), the motherboards ($80), and the RAM (2 versus 3 sticks, $30). Thats not a bad deal considering you are not sacrificing anything in performance!
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