Intel Core i7 860, Quad Core Vs AMD Phenom II X4 955, Quad Core 3.2Ghz
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yousaf465
February 7, 2010 1:12:35 PM
Something helpful here
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/overclock-phenom-ii...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/overclock-phenom-ii...
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wyspyr
February 7, 2010 6:48:35 PM
I've had both and have to use a car analogy to compare them. The AMD chip is great from 0-60, but after that (60-120+) the intel chip pulls away. Also, it has hyperthreading which IMO is very nice to have. Having four physical cores and 4 logical ones in addition is great for multitasking and photo editing. My only possible regret in switching from AMD is perhaps not going 1366...still love AMD. The Athlon II x4 620 is a little monster when overclocked
yousaf465
February 8, 2010 1:56:59 AM
yousaf465
February 8, 2010 1:57:28 AM
I will read it.
wyspyr
February 8, 2010 2:02:27 AM
Basically in no tech, real world experience, I've found that AMD is quite nice for everyday tasks and gaming. I've been getting into photo/video editing though and noticed an immediate difference in overall crispness, for lack of a better word, when I have large and multiple applications open. An overclocked 955 for gaming is golden and again everyday tasks will be handled with ease on a appropriate AMD chip. Its really only when heavily taxing the system do I find that Intel handles the load better. Hope this helps. What are your planned usages for the PC?
These are head to head at stock speeds. i7 860 in blue, AMD in orange. Beats the AMD except for 3 or 4 ties. (Higher or lower better is noted on the right of each benchmark.) So check the most relevant apps and decide for yourself if the extra cost of the i7 is worth it over the 955. Both will be quality OC'ers, so I wouldn't expect AMD to make up any ground if OCing factors in.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/default.aspx?p=108&p2=88
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/default.aspx?p=108&p2=88
yousaf465
February 8, 2010 3:25:22 AM
I usually use computer for net surfing but also often use it for photo editing (only 6 MP camera), occasionally use RAW. Also I want something on which I'm able to watch HD video, browse the net and scan my pc using bitdefender or another AV all at the same time
Also I do play games like FSX and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_Force.
Also I do play games like FSX and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_Force.
wyspyr
February 8, 2010 3:47:16 AM
With those usages and especially if price is an issue, go Phenom II x4 955. It'll handle HD video no problem with the proper graphics card and since you're not working with HUGE file sizes, it'll still perform very well for your photo apps. Again the only differences I've seen between my current core i7 860 build and a past Phenom II x4 955 rig is responsiveness when under heavy load and the ability to have 8 threads for multitasking dreams I have
That being said I'm still thinking the AMD build would be better suited to your needs...especially for the price. If you live near a Micro Center then hit them up for a 229.99 Core i7 860 by all means, just be aware that for many common tasks, price is the only difference you'll really notice.
That being said I'm still thinking the AMD build would be better suited to your needs...especially for the price. If you live near a Micro Center then hit them up for a 229.99 Core i7 860 by all means, just be aware that for many common tasks, price is the only difference you'll really notice.
yousaf465
February 8, 2010 4:15:59 AM
Will it be able to handle both HD 1080 video and anti-virus scan at the same time ?
What multitasking you usually do ?
Here is the price comparison http://www.czone.com.pk/html/amd_processor.htm and http://www.czone.com.pk/html/products_new.htm
What multitasking you usually do ?
Here is the price comparison http://www.czone.com.pk/html/amd_processor.htm and http://www.czone.com.pk/html/products_new.htm
wyspyr
February 8, 2010 4:36:20 AM
Yes it will. I usually have a dozen Google gadgets going, a web cam surveillance feed
and a web browser with multiple tabs as my base. Then add hulu video streams or Bluray playback, documents and photo editing programs (Picasa, Lightroom, Quicktime Pro - soon!!!) open. This was handled by an athlon II x 4 620 system but would get sluggish with any additional tasks. Really all I had to do was close a few things down and it was fine...RAM wasn't an issue as it was monitored and well under max load. My CPU in that case was my bottle neck. moving to a core i7 860 opened up that top end - again the 60mph -125+ example. Thats were hyperthreading comes in. In a nut shell the 860 behaves as if it had 8 cores which is great for video editing, system intensive tasks, and benchmarking. Honestly though, real world, the Phenom II is plenty. I'm just picky and scatter brained...plus I like to fill my work space (currently 2 monitors...waiting for nVidia for "surround") with busy little beavers
For me the 860 shines but I do rely on this PC for work as well so I need to be able to switch gears in a hurry if called upon. Try googling some comparisons between the Phenom II x4 and core i5/7. But remember Intel performs better with synthetics. I've been most pleased with my AMD builds.
and a web browser with multiple tabs as my base. Then add hulu video streams or Bluray playback, documents and photo editing programs (Picasa, Lightroom, Quicktime Pro - soon!!!) open. This was handled by an athlon II x 4 620 system but would get sluggish with any additional tasks. Really all I had to do was close a few things down and it was fine...RAM wasn't an issue as it was monitored and well under max load. My CPU in that case was my bottle neck. moving to a core i7 860 opened up that top end - again the 60mph -125+ example. Thats were hyperthreading comes in. In a nut shell the 860 behaves as if it had 8 cores which is great for video editing, system intensive tasks, and benchmarking. Honestly though, real world, the Phenom II is plenty. I'm just picky and scatter brained...plus I like to fill my work space (currently 2 monitors...waiting for nVidia for "surround") with busy little beavers
For me the 860 shines but I do rely on this PC for work as well so I need to be able to switch gears in a hurry if called upon. Try googling some comparisons between the Phenom II x4 and core i5/7. But remember Intel performs better with synthetics. I've been most pleased with my AMD builds.
yousaf465
February 8, 2010 6:02:58 AM
yousaf465
February 8, 2010 6:52:16 AM
yousaf465
February 9, 2010 1:15:11 AM
wyspyr
February 9, 2010 2:52:58 AM
yousaf465
February 9, 2010 3:07:31 AM
wyspyr
February 9, 2010 3:42:50 AM
Look for one that supports up to DDR3 1600 memory, or higher. Then its all about whether to not to run multiple graphics cards. I've been gathering that its better to go with one really good graphics cards than two lesser ones. A P55 motherboard can operate 2 PCI lanes @ 8x but can only utilize the full 16x bandwidth with one card. I have my eye on the 5850/5870 or I might wait for nVidia's latest. Although, I have read that to utilize their version of eyefinity ("surround") you need a min of two graphics cards in SLI.
yousaf465
February 9, 2010 5:29:19 AM
wyspyr
February 9, 2010 3:06:01 PM
yousaf465
February 10, 2010 6:38:52 AM
divide that figure by 80 or at current rate by 85. There is also another site. I this one is under reconstruction, so only I found this complete packages.
http://www.galaxy.pk/forms/new%20pc2.htm.
The price comes at 168 $
http://www.galaxy.pk/forms/new%20pc2.htm.
The price comes at 168 $
That galaxy link didn't work.
Looking at czone, the Asus P7P55D will work for you just the same as the more expensive Deluxe. Only difference between the two is the second PCIe x16 slot for a second GPU, but it doesn't sound like that's a consideration for you.
http://www.czone.com.pk/html/products_new.htm
What other sites can you shop at?
Looking at czone, the Asus P7P55D will work for you just the same as the more expensive Deluxe. Only difference between the two is the second PCIe x16 slot for a second GPU, but it doesn't sound like that's a consideration for you.
http://www.czone.com.pk/html/products_new.htm
What other sites can you shop at?
yousaf465
February 11, 2010 5:49:27 AM
Here is the list of online computer shops in Pakistan http://www.wiredpakistan.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=3
Can you people post a screenshots of your multitasking ?
This looks like its all you'd need and at a reasonable 10000rs.
From Galaxy in the mobo section (they use frames, so I can't link to the product itself)
http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/DP55WB/config...
It doesn't have the USB 3.0 on it, but didn't find any that did. The P7P55D from Asus is also a quality product and up to you how much you want to spend.
From Galaxy in the mobo section (they use frames, so I can't link to the product itself)
http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/DP55WB/config...
It doesn't have the USB 3.0 on it, but didn't find any that did. The P7P55D from Asus is also a quality product and up to you how much you want to spend.
Butters088
February 11, 2010 11:17:05 PM
Get the i7-860. I just built a knew rig with one about a month ago and it freaking screams. VERY easy to overclock. and is great for games and multi-tasking.
I have a GIGABYTE-P55A-UD3 which works great and I believe it was around $130. If you want something better they have more expensive models.
cheers
I have a GIGABYTE-P55A-UD3 which works great and I believe it was around $130. If you want something better they have more expensive models.
cheers
yousaf465
February 12, 2010 5:16:41 AM
Currently I'm found something offtopic Opera 10.50 beta, http://www.wiredpakistan.com/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=1... it seems that it might be using more processor to get this fast. Can you how show me how much of processor it uses ?Bcz on my current machine it working at upto 90% of cpu.
yousaf465
February 12, 2010 9:57:15 AM
Still I want to know, how of a processor does this opera new browser consume. With this thread http://www.pakgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?49770-Be....
Some people have reported browser crash (on older browser) in this thread.
Some people have reported browser crash (on older browser) in this thread.
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