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November 27, 2009 6:03:29 AM

Hello, I built a system almost 2 years ago and I tried to future proof it(dumb). I havent really paid attention to all the new goodies that have come out since then. I started to do my own research on everything that came out, but was overwhelmed. The rigs main purpose shall be gaming(mostly ARMA2). I also do not intend on upgrading until Jan/Feb, unless there are once in a liftetime deals.

My current system is as follows:

Case: Antec 900
PSU: Seasonic M12 700W
Mobo: EVGA 680i T1
CPU: E6320 w/ Artic Freezer Pro7 Cooler
RAM: 4GB(4x1GB) Patriot Extreme DDR2 800
HD: WD 640GB Black
GPU: BFG 8800GT
Audio: SB X-Fi Fatal1ity
Monitor: 22" Samsung 226BW (1680x1050)

I would like to keep the cost down as much as possible. I am not looking for top tier stuff but am not afraid to spend extra if the upgrade is worth it. Again, its primary purpose is gaming. My goal is to max settings at the 1680x1050 resolution. I also want to keep to 1 GPU for compatability purposes. I have thought of 2 options for myself.

1) Upgrade the CPU and GPU. ~$350

CPU - e8500, q9400
GPU - GTX 260, HD 4890

2) Upgrade the Mobo, CPU, RAM, GPU ~650

Mobo - Asus P7P55D
CPU - i5 750
RAM - 4GB(2x2GB) OCZ Gold DDR3 1600
GPU - GTX 260, HD 4890

I am curious if the extra $300 is worth it or if a new line of cpu/gpu is coming out soon that I should wait. Any suggestions will be appreciated. Thank you in advance.

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November 27, 2009 7:58:08 AM

you should probably... hmmmmm maybe build a new pc.

if you dont want to then just go with your second option, which is practically the same as building a new pc

November 27, 2009 8:05:10 AM

Yea, the upgrade seems like a better choice for right now because of the price. But I am curious how much faster choice 2 will be with the CPU, GPU(using the PCI 2.0 x16) and RAM will be over choice 1.
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November 27, 2009 8:14:16 AM

a lot faster
November 27, 2009 8:26:06 AM

eh, I don't know, I think it really comes down to what you have to spend. Of course putting in the new hottest RAM, CPU and motherboard with a new GPU will be faster. If money's tight, the first option will give you good bang for the buck though. doing the CPU and GPU first will give you a nice performance boost. If you then upgrade to i7 and p55 and ddr3, I think you will notice that increase a lot less.
November 27, 2009 8:34:51 AM

I guess another thing I need to look at is how long will choice 1 be good for? a year? Choice 2 should give me atleast 2. right? I will also be running it on windows 7 64x.
November 27, 2009 8:53:49 AM

the lga 1366 socket would provide the most long term solution, in upgradabillity
November 27, 2009 9:35:45 AM

MrDrift said:
the lga 1366 socket would provide the most long term solution, in upgradabillity

Yes, but i7 is out of the question. Money isnt an issue but I want more bang for the buck. From everything I have read, i5 to i7 isnt a big enough performance increase to justify the price. I am happy with getting a system that will be good for atleast 2yrs and then upgrade again.
November 27, 2009 10:22:20 AM

i5
p55 board
ati 5xxx gpu
November 27, 2009 10:29:56 AM

oh then get the i5
November 28, 2009 5:17:31 AM

So majority votes option #2, eh?

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November 28, 2009 8:30:59 AM
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amundbr said:
So majority votes option #2, eh?
No, not really..


I would upgrade only the GPU and do some CPU overclocking to ~3gz or even higher. Overclocking really isn't dangerous or hard anymore.. If you don't know how to do it, you can ask a friend to do it for you. :) 

A 3ghz dual core CPU and a GTX260 or HD5770 would give a very good performance on your resolution if you don't push the AA/AF to the max. And buying only the GPU isn't too expensive. After all, money doesn't grow on trees. :D 
November 28, 2009 9:23:41 AM

That doesnt sound like to bad of an idea. I already had it OC'd to around 3Ghz and then I started running into weird issues with certain games that I didnt have before I overclocked. I turned it down to around 2.6Ghz then. Mabye I can just start with that and if that doesnt do the trick I can upgrade from there since I plan on getting the same GPU either way.

As for the 5770 over the 4890 is that solely for DX11? What games are coming out within the next year that are going to use DX11? If its nothing to exciting it would be pointless(imo) to go with the lower performing card for the future, when in another year my card will pretty much be obsolete anyways. I would prefer going with the 4890, as it outperforms the 5770 on DX10.
November 28, 2009 9:37:03 AM

amundbr said:
As for the 5770 over the 4890 is that solely for DX11? What games are coming out within the next year that are going to use DX11? If its nothing to exciting it would be pointless(imo) to go with the lower performing card for the future, when in another year my card will pretty much be obsolete anyways. I would prefer going with the 4890, as it outperforms the 5770 on DX10.
Well, it all depends on what the prices are. :) 

A GTX260 or HD4890 would be my choice, unless HD5770 or HD4870 are significantly cheaper in your local store. ;) 
November 28, 2009 9:55:54 AM

So you dont think a GTX 260 or HD 4890 would be bottlenecked by my CPU?
November 28, 2009 10:02:46 AM

amundbr said:
So you dont think a GTX 260 or HD 4890 would be bottlenecked by my CPU?
Of course not.

After all, it's a Core 2 Duo processor with 4MB of L2 cache and can easily overclock past 3ghz. If you oc it above 2,66ghz it will perform similar to E8000 processors. ;) 
November 28, 2009 11:21:42 AM

Good to know. I guess that is my best route then. Thank for the advice!
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