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OCZ's HSDL: A New Storage Link For Super-Fast SSDs

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September 29, 2010 4:15:06 AM

I like where they are headed but price still high mates
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September 29, 2010 4:18:26 AM

*faints* I will never be able to afford these.


Those HDDs cost more then my entire comptuer
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September 29, 2010 4:25:29 AM

I do want to try out one of these, maybe sell my car?
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September 29, 2010 4:29:42 AM

Chris I think I'll need to double-check your results. Better send the drive my way.
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September 29, 2010 4:49:08 AM

Optic link technology may be more exciting. Can't wait to see lightpeak or similar stuffs to become real.
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September 29, 2010 5:31:19 AM

First time saw those numbers, i gasped for air... OCZ, can you try to saturated with PCIe 2.0 x16 bandwidth? And can anyone tell me how much is it in Write and Read speeds at that bandwith?
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September 29, 2010 5:45:44 AM

Very nice to see secondary storage tech at orders of magnitude beyond what we're used to. Can't wait for this type of tech to become mainstream.
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September 29, 2010 6:31:59 AM

Stuff like this makes me wish I was involved in an enterprise-class technology environment that could actually benefit from 130,000 IOPS in a package like this. I guess I don't need to ditch my Agility 60, but I like where OCZ is headed.
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September 29, 2010 7:00:46 AM

Yet there are already drives that outperform these by a large margin available for a while now, like this:
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=RGS0256M&title...

Read 1.4GB/s, Write 1.2GB/s

At those speeds, it's like writing to RAM, only it's your hard drive.
There were also capacities up to 1TB that cost about $4,000. There were even SLC models (which cost 4x more, approx. $15,000) which are slightly faster still.

Personally, I wouldn't mind having 1TB of "slow" RAM as my hard drive, but it's just beyond my budget.
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September 29, 2010 7:07:50 AM

h8signinginYet there are already drives that outperform these by a large margin available for a while now, like this:http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.ph [...] tate-DriveRead 1.4GB/s, Write 1.2GB/sAt those speeds, it's like writing to RAM, only it's your hard drive.There were also capacities up to 1TB that cost about $4,000. There were even SLC models (which cost 4x more, approx. $15,000) which are slightly faster still.Personally, I wouldn't mind having 1TB of "slow" RAM as my hard drive, but it's just beyond my budget.


Yup, check it out! =)
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/super-talent-raiddr...
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September 29, 2010 9:25:53 AM

OK sorry to say i that i do not see how you can compare Super Talent to this one. first its based on an X8 slot as opposed to an x4, but if you want to im sure someone out there will compare the x8 releas of this technolagy to the super talent, second if you read not so closely the super talent uses 4 raided SSD drives whitch means your 3 drives over for comparison, this is after all the performance from a single drive and a single controller and its already half way to the bandwith of the super talent, drop in a second card and you still have room to spare for bandwith, drop in there announced x8 card and you have 4x 740mb read 690mb write VS the 4x 355mb read 215mb write that might be used in the super talent last time i checked 2760mb read was much more then a 1420mb read not to mention that even at those speeds the OCZ flaver still has 1.25 gigs of bandwith open on there x8 card... then again i can be wrong about this entire shpeal...
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September 29, 2010 12:25:36 PM

WOW! I kinda want show this to my boss to see if we can upgrade our servers. *sigh* Wish we were one of those give-me-more-performance-at-any-cost kind of companies. Oh well, can't wait for the trickle down to enthusiast level, I'm itching for a new build. :) 
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September 29, 2010 12:34:45 PM

If money buys happiness then I can't afford it, OCZ is Expensive!
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September 29, 2010 1:26:36 PM

comptonStuff like this makes me wish I was involved in an enterprise-class technology environment that could actually benefit from 130,000 IOPS in a package like this. I guess I don't need to ditch my Agility 60, but I like where OCZ is headed.

I just showed this and the Revo drive to my boss and he is going to get the funds to do some testing.. In our clusters we are mainly limited by drive speed and we have previously tested the Fusion IO Drive Duo but they are just too expensive..
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a b G Storage
September 29, 2010 2:00:02 PM

eh heh, my predictions were right.
On this "AsRock Wants the Best Mobo ideas"

I've posted give an idea of this

"4. Add SAS ports as they can also run regular SATA as well as them 15K drives. But most might say SSD is faster. If that is why not a SAS SSD?"


And here it is!

SAS SSD!
W00T!

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/mobo-design-contest-x5...
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a b G Storage
September 29, 2010 2:00:45 PM

lp231eh heh, my predictions were right.On this "AsRock Wants the Best Mobo ideas"I've posted an idea of this "4. Add SAS ports as they can also run regular SATA as well as them 15K drives. But most might say SSD is faster. If that is why not a SAS SSD?"And here it is! SAS SSD!W00T!http://www.tomshardware.com/news/m [...] 11308.html

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September 29, 2010 2:22:25 PM

Wow... that is FAST!
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September 29, 2010 2:27:14 PM

Warning... completely useless post incoming:

o.O

Woooooow....Maybe in 4 years the prices will drop enough to make this sort of thing mainstream?
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September 29, 2010 3:49:49 PM

Impressive.

Tom's: any chance of a giveaway contest with these drives? /wishful thinking
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September 29, 2010 4:20:26 PM

I would have loved to see Windows boot time numbers with this thing. I'd imagine pairing this thing with a super-fast posting board would make you computer turn on almost instantaneously.
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September 29, 2010 4:55:16 PM

I wonder if this drive would be able to shave off any time with transcoding video vs a regular SSD or would the i7 series cpu be that bottleneck?
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September 29, 2010 4:57:59 PM

For those of you talking about prices and wishing you could afford. OCZ is not targeting you for these. They are targeting enterprise usage. (Basically corporations or any other type of company that has a lot of money.) For example. If you had a huge database and many people needed instant access to the information at the same time. These drives would come in handy. (Parhaps someday prices of memory will be low enough that we can all enjoy these awesome speeds.) But unless you have a deep wallet don't bet on having one of these any time soon.
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September 29, 2010 5:04:18 PM

ReclusiveOrcI wonder if this drive would be able to shave off any time with transcoding video vs a regular SSD or would the i7 series cpu be that bottleneck?

I'm going to assuming by transcoding, you mean a (re)encode of the video stream.

It's almost always the CPU that's the bottleneck for these processes. That's why GPGPU can quadruple the speed.
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September 29, 2010 5:05:18 PM

The best price point is the 480gb version for $1300. Considering the extreme performance of these drives and how much regular SSDs cost, it seems like a reasonable price.

... still cripplingly expensive for me though.
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September 29, 2010 5:55:42 PM

I beleave dark lord missis the point of saying "I wish i had the money" it means i wish i had the money to get it and play with it, becaus its just cool to do. for the most part i beleave we all read the article so we all know the price ant the target audiance :D ... as question to the item itself... how fast is the next HDD for this tech suppose to be 0.o
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September 29, 2010 5:56:34 PM

sorry meant SDD :D  not HDD on my previous post :D 
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September 29, 2010 7:07:00 PM

h8signinginYet there are already drives that outperform these by a large margin available for a while now, like this:http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.ph [...] tate-DriveRead 1.4GB/s, Write 1.2GB/sAt those speeds, it's like writing to RAM, only it's your hard drive.There were also capacities up to 1TB that cost about $4,000. There were even SLC models (which cost 4x more, approx. $15,000) which are slightly faster still.Personally, I wouldn't mind having 1TB of "slow" RAM as my hard drive, but it's just beyond my budget.


i agree.

i think soon ram will disappear and be replaced by super fast SSD and on chip cache will increase greatly. And these SSDs of the future will probably look like today's RAM chips that fit into similar looking slots.
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September 29, 2010 7:58:39 PM

I predict that Sata3 will be the last flexible interface between the hard drive and the computer. I also agree with formin. Ram will be replaced by SSD cache, although this is still far off, as you would need to redesign the motherboard. Also, SATA would be no where near fast enough. 600Mb/s is a fraction of the 30Gb/s you can get with today's ram. Even 16x PCI-E (at, what? 8Gb/s?) falls a bit short.

... although you could say few applications require 30gb/s, they still have a long way to go...
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September 29, 2010 8:09:36 PM

Are these charts correct for "Benchmark Results: PCMark Vantage" because they show the RAID0 configuration as slower in *EVERY* *CASE* which is exactly opposite of what you'd expect from potentially doubling read and write throughput.
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September 29, 2010 8:09:54 PM

Are these charts correct for "Benchmark Results: PCMark Vantage" because they show the RAID0 configuration as slower in *EVERY* *CASE* which is exactly opposite of what you'd expect from potentially doubling read and write throughput.
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September 29, 2010 8:15:14 PM

@tom thumb, just a minor correction, it's 8GB/s, not 8Gb/s; so it's about 8 times wider then you wrote.
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September 29, 2010 9:35:24 PM

Slightly more affordable may be a traditional SAS card and mechanical hard drives. Clearly not as fast, but comparing to single hard drives or RAID0 arrays and even SSDs...I use 6x750GB drives over SAS and in RAID5 get ~400MB/s. Sure, faster is faster, but considering the cost of this 3.75TB solution is on the order of a 320GB SSD, kind of makes you wonder if SSDs make sense when you could just run massively parallel mechanical drives.
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September 29, 2010 11:49:19 PM

Such a negative tone to the article! When is advancing technology ever a bad thing?
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September 30, 2010 2:37:32 AM

I think it is time for a test between high performance PCI-E based flashdrives.
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September 30, 2010 2:56:45 AM

Anyone able to point me to my next server upgrade?
My client runs ONLY a database with 15 clients that is really slow.
No other applications on the server or wkstns. Dentist office.
Win2000svr. QuadCore. 1gb/s Network. new wkstns.
Drives are new Velociraptor 300gb w/ Win2000 mirror.

Can I mirror a 300G SSD drive to the velociraptor for testing?
(I know nothing about the new SSD drives & need max reliability)
Am I totally missing something?
Matt at is-lan.com

ps: I have really cool self-designed safety if anyone needs it.
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a b G Storage
September 30, 2010 9:17:33 AM

wow look at the price, but well if they really got the speed then go for it.
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