Cooling system or Something else

[ilyas429]

i am going to buy liquid cooling system.but i am confused about what my friend told me.i never overclocked my CPU or GPU so he told me that any kind of cooling system isn't necessarily for me.instead of buying Cooling system buy Something else like Graphic card or something...my room temperature is 36c sometime 40c at normal without split AC.outside Temperature is 40c to 50c.what you guys think Cooling system or Something else?

 

[bigcyco1]

Can you tell me your specs and what do you use your computer for mostly do you game hardcore do you plan on overclocking what are your system temperatures idle and under full load once you answer these questions i can better help you bud.

 

[becomecooler]

What kinda temperatures are you getting from your system under load?

 

[smorizio]

liquid cooling is used by overclocker as you can move more heat away from cpu and gpu then you can with a stock cooler or a larger one using air cooling. You have to stick your computer in a envorment stress test box and heat it to 60 plus c. for most good stock are coolers to have a hard time removing heat from a cpu. as long as you size the heat sink to the cooling need you should be find with most air cooled heat sinks. the is a bad downside to water cooling...that springing a leak..water and power dont mix. there been a few posts here and online were as fittings have failed when the pc been on and shorting out a gaming rig. the old in one sealed unit are worth the money if your looking to make a silent rig.

 

[ilyas429]

What kinda temperatures are you getting from your system under load?

my hardware temperature i saw from speccy is from 60c-65c sometime 70c or below

 

[ilyas429]

Can you tell me your specs and what do you use your computer for mostly do you game hardcore do you plan on overclocking what are your system temperatures idle and under full load once you answer these questions i can better help you bud.

no i am not planing on overclocking just gaming at full load... temperature at idle is 60c sometime crossed 65c.

 

[bigcyco1]

no i am not planing on overclocking just gaming at full load... temperature at idle is 60c sometime crossed 65c.

that is not good temps on idle that means there even higher on full load you should get a cooler just to be safe which is your computer case and what your CPU Processor reason i need to know to help you pick a cooler that will fit in your computer and will be capable and not cost you allot of money you don't need liquid cooled because your not overclocking besides that it cost more money

 

[ilyas429]

that is not good temps on idle that means there even higher on full load you should get a cooler just to be safe which is your computer case and what your CPU Processor reason i need to know to help you pick a cooler that will fit in your computer and will be capable and not cost you allot of money you don't need liquid cooled because your not overclocking besides that it cost more money

CHASSIS => Cooler Master Gladiator 600
CPU => Core2Quad Extreme 2.6GHZ QX6700
VGA => Nvidia 550ti

 

[geofelt]

A cpu cooler can do no better than 15c. +/- above ambient. If you are in a hot room, you have to live with that.

A liquid cooler gets heat off of the cpu chip a bit more efficiently, but it still needs to dissipate the heat through the radiator. It can never equal ambient temperature.

The older cpu chips like the QX6700 ran hotter than the current 32nm sandy bridge chips. You have to recognize that too.

The good news is that if you are not overclocking, your problem is manageable.

If you are using the stock Intel cooler, then a modest air cooler like the cm hyper212 should serve you well.

One more thing. I don't think you case has the capability of good airflow.
As a test, remove the side covers and direct a house fan at the innards. If your temperatures improve a lot, then consider changing out the case.
To my mind, a good cooling case will have at least two 120mm fans for intake, and an equivalent output area.

Lastly, do not worry TOO much about heat. CPU chips and graphics cards have protection mechanism's to slow themselves down to protect from damage.
Extreme cooling is of interest to those who will Overclock their cpu to the max.

Also, the Intel pushpin mounts are notoriously hard to install. Check your mount to verify that all 4 pins are through the motherboard and locked. You need to check the rear of the motherboard. If it is not on solid and tight, you will not cool well.

 

[ilyas429]

A cpu cooler can do no better than 15c. +/- above ambient. If you are in a hot room, you have to live with that.

A liquid cooler gets heat off of the cpu chip a bit more efficiently, but it still needs to dissipate the heat through the radiator. It can never equal ambient temperature.

The older cpu chips like the QX6700 ran hotter than the current 32nm sandy bridge chips. You have to recognize that too.

The good news is that if you are not overclocking, your problem is manageable.

If you are using the stock Intel cooler, then a modest air cooler like the cm hyper212 should serve you well.

One more thing. I don't think you case has the capability of good airflow.
As a test, remove the side covers and direct a house fan at the innards. If your temperatures improve a lot, then consider changing out the case.
To my mind, a good cooling case will have at least two 120mm fans for intake, and an equivalent output area.

Lastly, do not worry TOO much about heat. CPU chips and graphics cards have protection mechanism's to slow themselves down to protect from damage.
Extreme cooling is of interest to those who will Overclock their cpu to the max.

Also, the Intel pushpin mounts are notoriously hard to install. Check your mount to verify that all 4 pins are through the motherboard and locked. You need to check the rear of the motherboard. If it is not on solid and tight, you will not cool well.

thanks for this interesting info good thing is that never overclocked.and all case fans are installed.now is there a cooling system cheaper than liquid cooling system?

 

[geofelt]

thanks for this interesting info good thing is that never overclocked.and all case fans are installed.now is there a cooling system cheaper than liquid cooling system?

The cm hyper 212 is an outstanding value for air cooling. You have only to look at the number of positive reviews. $20 buys you this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

The noctua NH-D14 is arguably the best air cooler around. at $80:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608018

There are any number in between. All are reasonably good.

A Corsair H70 would cost $70 or so:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181019

You would have to mount it replacing the front 120mm intake fan or the top 140mm exhaust fan. The cpu would be cooled, but you would starve the graphics card and the motherboard components for cooling air.

Such a cooler is best mounted in a large case where those fan openings are plentiful.

 

[ilyas429]

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