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November 28, 2009 5:52:23 PM

Hey guys, how does this built look? I dont plan on upgrading it in te future and I wanted to keep the price beetween 200-300pounds. Ill be playing on 12XX-1080 resolution, can you guys tell me what sort of games this built would play at at what settings. Can you also recommend me some other parts that could bring my budget down but not my performance so much. Thanks

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX...

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP...

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA...

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB...

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY...

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA...

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD...

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CD...

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November 28, 2009 6:12:31 PM

A HD 4850 will do high in every title cept Crysis i would think at 1280 x 1024. I know that the weaker HD 4670 has been benched fine for Crysis 1280 x 1024 medium :p  Build looks good to go
November 28, 2009 7:15:26 PM

batuchka said:
A HD 4850 will do high in every title cept Crysis i would think at 1280 x 1024. I know that the weaker HD 4670 has been benched fine for Crysis 1280 x 1024 medium :p  Build looks good to go
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q205/batuchka/HD4670CrysisMed.jpg


Thanks I might switch the gpu for HD 4670 to bring the price down, I got oen question though according to the sreen you posted the HD 3870 is better than HD4670?
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November 28, 2009 8:01:37 PM

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I got oen question though according to the sreen you posted the HD 3870 is better than HD4670?
Reply to K1ash3r Revove from the list of quoted messages Add to the list of quoted messages

Yes.

Also, a 9600GSO may be an option: http://www.gameplanet.co.nz/features/132550.20081110.GP...

Here in the US, the 9600GSO can be found for ~$50-60.
November 28, 2009 9:11:29 PM

Shadow703793 said:
Quote:
I got oen question though according to the sreen you posted the HD 3870 is better than HD4670?
Reply to K1ash3r Revove from the list of quoted messages Add to the list of quoted messages

Yes.

Also, a 9600GSO may be an option: http://www.gameplanet.co.nz/features/132550.20081110.GP...

Here in the US, the 9600GSO can be found for ~$50-60.


Unfortuntly overclockers.co.uk dont sell 9600GSO or HD 3670

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX...

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP...

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA...

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB...

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY...

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA...

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD...

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CD...

SO this is what I was thinking so far, could you guys give me your opinoins on the psu i have chosen, do you think its enough and is it a good make? Im also not sure about my mobo. Can you guys also naybe recommend me some cheaper ram. Can you guys also tell me if there are any cheapr mid towers that could bring my budget down some more. Im trying to stay just under 300 pounds so can you guys maybe recommend some changes that would boost my performance but keep the budget under 300 pounds. The parts Iv listed above will come out to 293 pounds VAT and shippin included.
November 28, 2009 10:45:36 PM

Every thing except motherboard looks solid. The 430 chip set is no good when Ocing. Try and get a 785 based motherboard.
November 29, 2009 12:45:23 AM

Shadow703793 said:
Every thing except motherboard looks solid. The 430 chip set is no good when Ocing. Try and get a 785 based motherboard.


http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB... this is the cheapest 785 i could find. Can you recommend me some other cheaper mobo that i could get the 240 to at least 3ghz
November 29, 2009 2:08:27 AM

That would do fine i have taken A2X2 240 to 3.3++ on an el cheapo Biostar AM2+ and that mobo is good to go lol
November 29, 2009 8:05:30 AM

batuchka said:
That would do fine i have taken A2X2 240 to 3.3++ on an el cheapo Biostar AM2+ and that mobo is good to go lol


Which one the 785 or the 430?
November 29, 2009 9:25:58 AM

785 of course :p 
November 29, 2009 10:10:25 AM

batuchka said:
785 of course :p 


its too expensive I need a cheaper one that will still enable me to overclock
November 29, 2009 1:54:26 PM

^That's going to be hard pressed to do. Imo, save up a bit more money till you can buy the 785.
November 29, 2009 2:14:36 PM

Shadow703793 said:
^That's going to be hard pressed to do. Imo, save up a bit more money till you can buy the 785.


Well it just that my uncle asked me to keep it under 300pounds, can you maube switch out some components for cheaper ones that owuld not bring down my performance dramatily, for example cheaper case, lower psu, maybe some cheaper 2gbx1 cheaper ram or even the gpu so that I could fit the 785 in my budget.
November 29, 2009 3:22:15 PM

Imo, I wouldn't go cheaper than that on anything else.
November 29, 2009 3:55:20 PM

SunBeam Freezing Storm Black Case - No PSU

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/150298

AMD Athlon X2 240 2.8GHz Socket AM3 2MB Cache Retail Box Processor

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/168971

PowerColor HD 4770 512MB GDDR5 Dual DVI HDTV Out PCI-E Graphics Card

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/164568

Sony AD-5240S 24x DVD±RW DL Internal SATA Black Bare Drive - OEM

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/170014

Kingston 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 800MHz/PC2-6400 Hyperx Memory CL5

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/129177

Corsair CX 400W ATX Power Supply

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/150985

ASUS M4A78 770 Socket AM2+ 8 channel audio ATX Motherboard

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/167128

£302 delivered
November 29, 2009 6:04:55 PM

^ Well done! Yes, it looks like it'll meet OPs needs.
November 29, 2009 7:42:52 PM

Shadow703793 said:
^ Well done! Yes, it looks like it'll meet OPs needs.



Would the above built meet OC'ing needs?
November 29, 2009 8:10:41 PM

Good to go but YMMV for clocks in OCing hehe
November 29, 2009 11:23:55 PM

K1ash3r said:
Would the above built meet OC'ing needs?

Yup. HOWEVER, note that you will need a good heatsink if you plan to OC pretty high (~3.4Ghz? Sorry, I don't know the limit for that CPU).
November 30, 2009 6:31:50 PM

will a 740 or a 770 chip also be a good for overclocking?
November 30, 2009 6:53:55 PM

the 770 is a newer board wich would be better
December 1, 2009 1:33:36 AM

Its a toss up but if u like mATX/back up IGP go for the 785G but if u like the layout of an ATX for the 770
GA-MA770-UD3 comes in two revisions though i.e
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Product...
1.0 where model is on SB 700
2.0 where model is on SB 710

Try to hit the latter which supports ACC
December 1, 2009 2:23:48 PM

batuchka said:
Its a toss up but if u like mATX/back up IGP go for the 785G but if u like the layout of an ATX for the 770
GA-MA770-UD3 comes in two revisions though i.e
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Product...
1.0 where model is on SB 700
2.0 where model is on SB 710

Try to hit the latter which supports ACC


Ok, whats ACC and wouldnt 785G be better then 770 since its a better chip?
December 1, 2009 3:24:59 PM

the 785 and 770 is bout the same but the 785 has on board graphics and the 770 does not


Advanced Clock Calibration

Advanced clock calibration (ACC) is a feature available only for Phenom II X2/X3 families of processors, particularly for Black Edition ones, to increase the overclocking potential of the CPU. ACC is supported by the SB710 and the SB750 southbridges, and available through BIOS settings on some motherboards and AMD OverDrive utility.

It was discovered that this functionality has the possibility of unlocking the supposedly disabled cores of some Phenom II X2/X3 processors. In normal cases, it is not possible to use or unlock any of those hidden cores because originally those cores were disabled: a technique called "chip harvesting" or "feature binning" used by AMD to sell parts with one or two defective cores which will cause system unstability if not disabled.

The following are available through the Advanced Clock Calibration feature:

1. Auto or manual settings
2. Allow separate settings for each of the CPU cores
3. Allowed range: -12% to +12%
4. Possibility of unlocking AMD Phenom II X2/X3 and AMD Athlon II x4 locked cores / cache. (with BIOS support)

The principle of ACC is not publicly discussed by AMD or any third-party vendors. While NVIDIA also have a similar technology for its nForce 780a motherboards, called NVCC (NVIDIA Clock Calibration) with very similar functionality.
December 1, 2009 4:10:21 PM

obsidian86 said:
the 785 and 770 is bout the same but the 785 has on board graphics and the 770 does not


Advanced Clock Calibration

Advanced clock calibration (ACC) is a feature available only for Phenom II X2/X3 families of processors, particularly for Black Edition ones, to increase the overclocking potential of the CPU. ACC is supported by the SB710 and the SB750 southbridges, and available through BIOS settings on some motherboards and AMD OverDrive utility.

It was discovered that this functionality has the possibility of unlocking the supposedly disabled cores of some Phenom II X2/X3 processors. In normal cases, it is not possible to use or unlock any of those hidden cores because originally those cores were disabled: a technique called "chip harvesting" or "feature binning" used by AMD to sell parts with one or two defective cores which will cause system unstability if not disabled.

The following are available through the Advanced Clock Calibration feature:

1. Auto or manual settings
2. Allow separate settings for each of the CPU cores
3. Allowed range: -12% to +12%
4. Possibility of unlocking AMD Phenom II X2/X3 and AMD Athlon II x4 locked cores / cache. (with BIOS support)

The principle of ACC is not publicly discussed by AMD or any third-party vendors. While NVIDIA also have a similar technology for its nForce 780a motherboards, called NVCC (NVIDIA Clock Calibration) with very similar functionality.


Thanks for the explonation, but I dont think ill be going to the extremes and unlocking disabled cores

So, I'v changed my mind and now ill be ordering from ebuers.com since they got the free delivery thing. So heres are the parts

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/150298

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/168971

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/170014

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/129177

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/150985

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/167128

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/128708

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/152940

So what do you guys think, this comes to 298 pounds with free shipping. I dont think I can do much to improve the performance without going over 300pounds. From what I read the case is pretty good but how would you guys compare it to antec 300. Ill be also trying to get the cpu to 3.2ghz at least do you think I could do that with the mobo, psu, and case I listed, I dont want the temperatures to get to high. Im assuming the graphics card is enough for what my uncle wants, which is ETW at medium settings. I was also wondering wether 400W is too much or too little and if I should get a different one.

December 1, 2009 4:21:08 PM

A quality 400 watter like Corsair is fine for a HD 4670 which is actually a decent 1280 x 1024 card for any game hehe Looks fine
December 1, 2009 4:21:22 PM

400watts will be fine the 4670 is a low power card the sunbeam is an ok budget case its not as good as the 300 but pretty close
December 1, 2009 4:34:56 PM

OK thanks guys I think I made my mind up, but I got one question left do you think with the above built i could get 240 running at 3.2ghz with the strock cooler?
December 1, 2009 4:42:09 PM

Very possible as that is not that high an OC
December 1, 2009 4:45:56 PM

ok, thanks Ill try to find out a bit more on oc'ing amd 240, most likely ill be ordering this week, might change the case though since my uncle wanted something simple.
December 1, 2009 4:57:40 PM

You are welcomed ^^
December 1, 2009 6:14:43 PM

I just realized something should I use 64 bit or 32 bit os
December 1, 2009 6:25:32 PM

If u have XP on hand that would do fine but if u had to fork out for a new OS i'd go 64 bit ^^
December 1, 2009 6:29:27 PM

batuchka said:
If u have XP on hand that would do fine but if u had to fork out for a new OS i'd go 64 bit ^^


Well I have a win7 RC 64 bit and a win xpro 32bit and Im not sure which one to use.

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/128662/show_product_revie...
about the memory I'm a bit worries after reading the reviews.
December 1, 2009 6:33:52 PM

Well if u tight than XP would be a good idea cos eventually u do have to acquire a Win 7 product key next year hehe KVR is rock solid value RAMs - not your enthusiast RAMs but more often than not dependable RAMs If u not too hot on HyperX and since u tight drop to KVR since you not looking for record clocks anyway :p 
December 1, 2009 6:42:00 PM

batuchka said:
Well if u tight than XP would be a good idea cos eventually u do have to acquire a Win 7 product key next year hehe KVR is rock solid value RAMs - not your enthusiast RAMs but more often than not dependable RAMs If u not too hot on HyperX and since u tight drop to KVR since you not looking for record clocks anyway :p 


k its just that the title said 800mhz and peoples reviews were saying that they getting like below 400mhz
December 1, 2009 6:43:32 PM

Thats fine - u can learn how to set RAM timings, freq , etc at a later time
December 1, 2009 7:21:35 PM

batuchka said:
Thats fine - u can learn how to set RAM timings, freq , etc at a later time


i'v just reailized something

this is the ram i got in my current system OCZ Platinum AM3 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-10666C7 1333MHz Dual Channel and when i go to amd over drive it says Frequancy :535 what should I change to get my memoery running at 1333mhz like its suppose to be?

EDIT: another quick thing where would I plug the mouse in this board http://www.ebuyer.com/product/167128 because I only see one PS/2 Keyboard thers no PS/2 Mouse (the green one)
December 2, 2009 3:12:07 AM

Hang on a bit - that RAM is DDR3 and that mobo is DDR2/AM2+ a typo perhaps?
December 2, 2009 2:11:12 PM

umm when I said " I just realised I was talking about a different rgi the one I alredy have maybe I should of made a new thread sry.

This is the rig I was talking bout

AMD 955
Gigabyte GA-MA790XT-UD4P
OCZ Platinum AM3 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-10666C7 1333MHz Dual Channel
XFX XXX 4870 1gb
WD 500gb caviar black
LG DVD-RW
PC P&C 750W
antec 300
Xigmatek Dark Knight cooler S1283V

Abart from that Ill keep thsi thread alive incase Ill need some more help before i order the amd 240 built
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