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Just bought I7-860 CPU and Biostar T5XE. Now what else do I need?

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November 28, 2009 8:08:30 PM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: ASAP. Now

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming, Movies

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Keyboard, Mouse, LCD

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Newegg

PARTS PREFERENCES: by brand or type. I already bought the I7-860 and Biostar combo at frys for $230. Now I just need the rest of the computer.
This is the Motherboard
OVERCLOCKING: Yes

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920X1200

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: This is going to be my first computer build.






Harddrive

I was thinking of getting the Intel SSD 80 gig but not sure which one to buy. There are two listed with Newegg

This one or
This one

Ram. Not sure what the difference is, but I was thinking of one of these.
GKILL

Other GKILL

Case
This Antec seems to have good Reviews

Power Supply
Corsair. Not sure if this is enough power

Video Card
5850 when it comes back in stock. I wanted to do a 3 monitor setup one day





Please let me know what you guys think. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
November 28, 2009 8:09:58 PM

I also need a CPU cooler since I'm going to give overclocking a try. Not even sure where to start looking for that.

bigheadanthony said:
APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: ASAP. Now

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming, Movies

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Keyboard, Mouse, LCD

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Newegg

PARTS PREFERENCES: by brand or type. I already bought the I7-860 and Biostar combo at frys for $230. Now I just need the rest of the computer.
This is the Motherboard
OVERCLOCKING: Yes

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920X1200

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: This is going to be my first computer build.






Harddrive

I was thinking of getting the Intel SSD 80 gig but not sure which one to buy. There are two listed with Newegg

This one or
This one

Ram. Not sure what the difference is, but I was thinking of one of these.
GKILL

Other GKILL

Case
This Antec seems to have good Reviews

Power Supply
Corsair. Not sure if this is enough power

Video Card
5850 when it comes back in stock. I wanted to do a 3 monitor setup one day





Please let me know what you guys think. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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November 28, 2009 9:00:02 PM

Why did you not pick up also, either of the 4GB DDR3 deals that Fry's had going also?

Patriot DDR3 1600MHz Dual Channel $79

or

Corsair PC1333 Dual DDR3 $79

I just got that combo also and did not pick up the memory. But now I'm kind of regretting it. Just getting the combo sort of makes the monthly bills harder to pay off. But I do need memory for this build. I want to have it all together within the next 15 days to be within the return policy if something does not work. But the drive to Fry's alone cost me about $8. Thought I'd be able to find a good deal online but now I'm wondering.

Both brands Patriot and Corsair look to be on the approved list: http://www.biostar-usa.com/app/en%2Dus/t-series/memory_... or maybe not if the stick size matters, looks like the 2GB Corsair might be the only one on Biostars list. The Patriot one is only 1GB. If size matters. I've been highlighting the model number in the link and googling them.

I'm only finding online the 2GB Corsair in 6GB kits and I think that the memory can only be installed in pairs if I'm reading the online manual correctly (I've not opened the box for that manual yet).

They also had some other very good deals to knock of a few things from your want list above.
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November 28, 2009 10:25:17 PM

The Latencies. They are CL 7, same with the $124 ones. The cheaper ones you quoted are CL 9(slower). They are on black friday sale and really really cheap.
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November 28, 2009 10:36:57 PM

Do you guys think the GKILL ram will work if its not on the motherboard approved memory list?
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November 28, 2009 10:42:59 PM

Those mobo vendor approval lists are from 1976. They WILL work.
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November 28, 2009 11:28:41 PM

bigheadanthony said:
I also need a CPU cooler since I'm going to give overclocking a try. Not even sure where to start looking for that.


I picked up the same deal today at Fry's. While there, I picked up the TT ISGC-300 CPU Cooler. It's normally $50, but on sale for $30 with a $30 mail in rebate... I actually opened a thread about what to get for my remaining components. MicroCenter has a PSU on sale through tomorrow...

Steve
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November 28, 2009 11:42:34 PM

Yes, the timings will just have to be set manually in the BIOS.
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November 29, 2009 12:21:03 AM

sonic-boom said:
Yes, the timings will just have to be set manually in the BIOS.



OK so how would one go about finding what those setting might be for those memory modules?
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November 29, 2009 12:22:20 AM

They are 7-8-7 latencies. Check newegg specs
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November 29, 2009 12:49:45 AM

Thanks Sonic-Boom. Sorry this is somewhat new to me. So I get your saying that the latencies are basically the timing specs you'd set in the Bios?

Here are the specs copied:
Model
Brand G.SKILL
Series Ripjaws Series
Model F3-12800CL7D-4GBRM
Type 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM
Tech Spec
Capacity 4GB (2 x 2GB)
Speed DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
Cas Latency 7
Timing 7-8-7-24
Voltage 1.6V
ECC No
Buffered/Registered Unbuffered
Multi-channel Kit Dual Channel Kit
Heat Spreader Yes
Features Specifically Designed to compatible with Intel Core i5 and Core i7 for Intel P55

I'll have to do some research on memory timing and latency. Thanks again.
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November 29, 2009 1:32:41 AM

You should of got the Antec eartwatts from frys for like $35 after $20 rebate.
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November 29, 2009 2:22:54 AM

ragsters said:
You should of got the Antec eartwatts from frys for like $35 after $20 rebate.


Yes this one, good deal. I actually bought that one for $10 more two days ago online from Newegg.
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November 30, 2009 9:49:32 PM

Hi guys

I bought the same deal at Frys (the core i7 with the T5XE motherboard) and I have a question...

At biostars site it said the T5XE Motherboard supports Dual Channel DDR3 800/1066/1333/1600(OC)/1866(OC)/2000(OC) MHz.

Assuming the (OC) means overclocking,

Does it mean you can overclock with the 1600MHz but you can't with 1333MHz?

Or does it mean using 1600MHz would make THAT motherboard overclock all the time?

Is it a wise decision to get memory with 1600MHz with this paticular motherboard?


Just a side note: I want this computer for gamming, but I don't think I will (or need to) overclock it... But then again it would be nice to see what I could do with it. :D 


What do you think? :) 
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December 1, 2009 1:52:47 AM

First off, I hate you all. I bought a similarly priced i5/t5 xe combo from Frys about a month ago. I did NOT see this pairing being possible and literally dropped my jaw when I read the ad. :[

@bigheadanthony & g725s - I use the same ripjaws and they overclock like champs. With that said, yes they absolutely ARE compatible with our t5 xe. No one really looks at approval lists anymore.

@Commander38 - The OC does stand for overclock. T5 xe will underclock your RAM (if you get 1600 RAM) to the board's native 1333 speed. To achieve, 1600 or higher, you must overclock it manually using the timing specifications of your RAM, also taking voltages into consideration. I would recommend 1600 with this board, especially the ripjaws @ $80. It's an incredibly good investment.


From my experience, this is a pretty good mid-level board. Don't like the x8 bottleneck for SLI/XF setups, but what can you say for a literally free mobo? I had no trouble OC'ing my i5 to 4.0+ with a hyper 212 plus & push/pull setup @ 1.4 vcore. But chose to keep it at 3.9ghz @ 1.264 vcore. Extra wattage wasn't worth the 100 mhz jump.

(Though if anyone is interested, I found out that I could go to 4.2 with that 1.4 vcore, OCCT stable over 2 hrs, prime95 stable [both blend & small] overnight.
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December 1, 2009 2:11:22 AM

vznoobie12 said:
I bought a similarly priced i5 / t5 xe combo
@bigheadanthony & g725s - I use the same ripjaws and they overclock like champs. With that said, yes they absolutely ARE compatible with our t5 xe. No one really looks at approval lists anymore.



Thanks for the positive review of your Biostar board. I believe that your board is very similar to the one we got or at least in the same class/series. if I'm not mistaken the manual covers both the T5 XE, and the T5XE CFX-SLI.

What are the exact memory timing and voltage settings you are using?
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December 1, 2009 2:15:25 AM

OC means the CPU must be overclocked. At stock speeds, i5/i7 chips cannot run the ram that fast. They officially only support 1333 for 1156 and 1066 for 1366.
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December 5, 2009 9:39:27 PM

bigheadanthony said:
I already bought the I7-860 and Biostar combo


Just got my build going and testing it at the moment. I beleive the manual is wrong when it says that the memory (when using two stick only) is to be installed in slot A1-B1. And I confirmed this with the Biostar USA tech Nate. His words below:

"Yeah you need to have the memory installed in a1/a2 to get it to post with 2 sticks. The manual is incorrect which is unfortunate."

Currently running for the past 2hrs Memtest86+ that was included in the BIOS. So far so good!
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December 6, 2009 7:23:13 AM

I have 2x2GB and tried A1-B1 and A1-A2. In both cases I got 4 GB.
However, just in A1-B1 I got "dual" channels in cpu-z and "single" for A1-A2.
So, looks like manual is Ok - isn't it?

what setting to use in bios for Patriot 1600 CL9 RAM?
There are a lot of parameters for manual overclocking I'm not aware of :( 
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December 6, 2009 2:03:20 PM

Could be, I never found out if I was indeed in dual. I looked through the bios. I'll need to look into cpu-z. What is that exactly?
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December 6, 2009 3:12:22 PM

Just download that and check. mikek753 is right. The Biostar tech is obviously wrong.

I hate getting bad info. I email them in regards to a comment I saw on newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I knew it would be a few days before I started so I emailed Biostar and asked, even forwarding the link above at newegg.

The Biostar tech got back to me with the exact comment I pasted above.

Ignore what I posted above and follow what the manual says.

Thanks mikek753.
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March 5, 2010 4:44:16 PM

I just got the same deal at Fry's, I'm having issues with Video.

PowerDVD is locking up sporadically.

The system hung on me last night running DVD Rebuilder, two jobs in Batch mode. The first job completed, the second one hung the machine, total lock-up. The system tray was displaying a balloon saying something about Adobe Update !! So I updated the complete CS4 Suite to get that out of the way and MS Updates as well !

Thinking PDVD9 is not liking this setup, VLC works fine but Liteware, thinking about getting Acronis Total Media Center Trial and testing it.


Just NOT sure if the video card is compatible with the mobo ? ? ? Any suggestions ? ? ?


Here's what I purchased:

Component ...... Price(After Rebate)........ Rebate $$$ ..........Store
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Intel Core i7 Processor 860 & BioStar T5XE CFX-SLI Motherboard $259.00 $20.00 Fry's
Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1600 $105.00 $20.00 NewEgg
Seagate 1.5TB Serial ATA/300 Hard Drive $99.00 $0.00 Fry's
Thermaltake Element G Mid Tower Case $79.00 $20.00 Fry's
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI $110.00 $10.00 NewEgg
EVGA GT220 1GB PCI-Express Video Card $35.00 $25.00 Fry's
Rosewill RNX-G300EX IEEE 802.11b/g PCI Wireless Card $17.00 $0.00 NewEgg


FYI: I did change the timings on the Mushkin
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Extreme Memory Profile:
Profile Name Enthusiast (Certified)
Memory Speed DDR3-1600 (800 MHz)
Voltage 1.65 V
@ 800 MHz 7-9-7-24 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 32-74-0-4-10-6-6 (RC-RFC-CR-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)
@ 685 MHz 6-8-6-21 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 28-64-0-4-9-6-6 (RC-RFC-CR-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)

Sorry for reopening a old thread, but thought previous info might be helpful !!
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March 5, 2010 5:18:44 PM

not sure its relevant, but my story
I tried evga gt220 on another system and some times it even boot, the rest it took some delay at bios boot time - init or else - never seen such with other video cards before
I didn't like it and moved with PNY gt240 - that worked far better for me
then I got this T5XE and built new system with gt 240
so far so good

could you try another video card?
The T5XE might not be the best MB, but it works for me.

BTW - I didn't get rebate from biostar yet, been 3+ months already!!!
any one got this rebate?
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March 5, 2010 7:46:16 PM

with current cost cutting - quality went down and you might not tell why system falling ... IMHO
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March 5, 2010 10:58:46 PM

Rebates can take a while. What is the predicted time? Also, some of the newer rebates have online tracking you can check.
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May 30, 2010 5:10:28 PM

EXT64 said:
Rebates can take a while. What is the predicted time? Also, some of the newer rebates have online tracking you can check.


I submitted my rebate for this board in November and just got it this month :-o Rebates are getting trickier and trickier to fill out properly. This rebate for the Biostar board was a real game where they made you dot all your i's and cross all your t's.

If the Biostar board were not running so good I probably would have thought more of it.
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