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November 29, 2009 2:46:58 AM

Hello all,

I am in the process of designing my new system and now believe it is time to get some advice from people that are really in the know, hence forth this post. I am very fortunate to say that money isn't an issue when it comes to building this system, I want something that is incredibly powerful with a nice twist of excess. As a user I am pretty compentent and experienced, but on the design and build side of things I am very much a novice. Please take a look at what I have come up with so far and I will list my questions/queries at the end of this post. I apologise for any technical inadequacy in advance. Here's what I have come up with:

Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD7 Intel X58 (Socket 1366) PCI-Express DDR3 Motherboard
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Product...

Corsair CMPSU-1000HX 1000-Watt Power Supply - ATX 140mm Fan SATA-Ready SLI Ready
http://www.corsair.com/products/hx1000/default.aspx

Intel Core i7 Extreme Edition (975) 3.33GHz Processor 8192KB L3 Cache 6.4 GT/S
http://www.intel.com/cd/products/services/emea/eng/proc...

Corsair Dominator GT 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR3 2000MHz 240pin DIMM Memory Module Kit (CMG6GX3M3A2000C8)
https://shop.corsair.com/store/item_view.aspx?id=766411

Seagate BARRACUDA XT 7200.12 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM 64MB SATA 6GB/S x2
http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/products/desktops/barr...

nVidia GeForce GTX 295 Graphics Card 1792MB x2
http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_gtx_295_us...

Auzentech X-Fi Forte 7.1 Low Profile PCI Express Sound Card with Integrated Headphone Amp and Professional Mic Pre-Amp
http://www.auzentech.com/site/products/x-fi_forte.php

X-Fi I/O Drive Upgrade
http://www.auzentech.com/site/products/xfi_iodrive.php

LG GGW-H20L Blu-ray Disc Rewriter + HD DVD ROM Drive Internal SATA / Retail
http://www.lge.com/uk/it-products/dvd-and-blu-ray-drive...

The queries I have are:

Will all of these components work in conjunction with eachother? In particular the RAM speeds and the board.

Will the dual GTX 295s work with the board, or will I have to go for dual GTX 285s?

As far as power/cooling/casing goes I have absolutely no idea, all recommendations will be welcome, although it must look either very stealth-like or uber-flashy (i.e. lots of pretty lights), I'm very big on aesthetic, although I am not stupid and will happily sacrifice some degree of aesthetic for technical practicality.

Could you suggest the best casing/cooling/power solution for this setup?

In regards to cabling, do all cables come provided with the various components, or are they to be separate purchases?

Finally, if there are any components that you would exchange for something more powerful please feel free to say, in particular the motherboard. However I would like them to equal or exceed the parts I have listed already.

Is there anything I have overlooked? (Of this I'm sure ;) )

Additional Info: I do plan to overclock this machine in the future.

Thankyou for your time in advance, all feedback is welcomed, although please try and refrain from thinking cost-effectively as this will to some degree hinder what I am trying to achieve.

Resmash :) 

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November 29, 2009 3:20:35 AM

For he motherboard I personally like ASUS more, so I like this motherboard better.
I really like the antec 1200 case
as for the gpu crossfire the 5970 getting a total of 4 gpus.
For that powerful system prbably you will want a 1200w like this one
November 29, 2009 3:46:05 AM

Check out the HAF 932 for a case and the prolimatech megahalems HSF. No you won't need any cables, except maybe this extension one (the rest come with the mobo)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Then definitely get the 5970 instead of the 295.
You should be fine with the 1000W HX.

I'll spare you the cost lecture.
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November 29, 2009 4:49:42 AM

Similar to a build I'm doing in December for a friend, we're using the Antec 1200 case and the Ati 5970 in crossfire on an evga E758 tri sli MB. Also using the Corsair 1000 HX psu. Good luck with your new build.
November 29, 2009 4:55:04 AM

I wish I had the money to spend 1200 dollars just on video cards.*_* this computer will be awesome.
November 29, 2009 4:56:14 AM

Case Antec 1200 - http://www.silentpcreview.com/antec-1200

PSU Antec SG-850 / CP-850 http://www.silentpcreview.com/Recommended_PSUs

CPU - 975 is nice but you can OC a 920 to 975 speeds...of course 975 will OC higher still but not as much %

Memory - Dominators are ridiculously overpriced .... since CAS 6 chips are no longer being made, CAS 6 modules are history. best bet is CAS 7 and OCZ platinums give same performance for about 1/3 the price on your link. Go to newegg and drill down from computer hardware / memory / desktop memory / DDR1600 / 3 x 2GB / CAS 7 and then sort by price.

Prolimatech Megahalems - http://www.silentpcreview.com/Recommended_Heatsinks

HS fans - Twin Enermax Cluster PWM fans 120mm x 25 mm

thermal paste - IC Diamond Karat

HD - 7200.12's are amazingy quiet and cool w/ great read performance....not so hot for workstation I/O if that's your application.

GFX - Well if you want no holds barred best performance, hard to argue w/ twin 5970's ... well assuming you wanna spend $1250......next down is twin 295GTX but I'd only go there if you gonna upgrade GFX cards before 2012. Single cards is an option....just finished Crysis Warhead and 2nd from top settings on 295 @ 1920 x 1200. The 295 gets you PhysX tho if ya into that kinda thing.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/batman-arkham-asylu...

BTW, can do twin 5870's in XFire and add a dedicated PhysX (say a 260) card in WIn7

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-ATI-physx-patch...

Optical Drive - http://www.plextoramericas.com/index.php/blu-ray/intern...

I'd get one of these 3 boards:

for up to four GFX cards
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (would get bigger PSI+U for this)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
combo expired w/ this (last week)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The Rampage comes with a Supreme Xi-Fi daughter card

Quote:
Will all of these components work in conjunction with eachother? In particular the RAM speeds and the board.


yes

Quote:
Will the dual GTX 295s work with the board, or will I have to go for dual GTX 285s?


My son has the 295 in the Rampage II Extreme and it fits in the Antec 1200 case ...as would 2 w/ any of the MoBos I listed.

Quote:
Could you suggest the best casing/cooling/power solution for this setup?


If ya don't like the 1200, the HAF 932 is an excellent alternate.
Antec 1200 w/ SG-850 or CP-850 or HAF 932 w/ Corsair HX-850

Quote:
In regards to cabling, do all cables come provided with the various components, or are they to be separate purchases?


Yes, suggest ya buy the two optional fans for the Antec 1200. Might wanna buy some flexible SATA cables from frozencpu.com if ya anal (like me) about cable routing :) 

Quote:
Is there anything I have overlooked? (Of this I'm sure ;) )


Well I added the OC Station link above in case you wanna bling it up. The OC features are kinda cool I guess but it is an excellent fan controller. May want to sleeve ya fans if ya wanna bling it up more. Also might wanna add a UV light. Going with the blue theme....

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/2998/lit-46/Dual_12_C...

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/3726/slv-25/Ultra_Blu...

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1845/ele-196/14_Blue_...

That's the 1/4 size (I grabbed 18'...may wanna grab some (12') in 1/2 and 3/8 sizes also.

some tools

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/3835/too-05/Dual_Ende...

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/3836/too-07/FrozenCPU...
November 29, 2009 6:06:30 AM

if you have unlimeted funds DO NOT get an antec 1200 or a HAF there good case but only mid line , get either a silverstone case or a lian-lee and get a 5970 much better than a 295 + youll get Xfire , and id wait a little longer for the lucid hydra mobo
November 29, 2009 6:34:30 AM

for PSU go for The Enermax Revolution 85+ series
This power supply is overkill for all but the most extreme of systems

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/psus/2009/05/13/enerma...
on newegg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
and for the board
Asus P6T6 WS Revolution
or you can take
World’s 1st 4-way SLI Board, 10 Phase Digital PWM, XL-ATX
EVGA 170-BL-E762-A1 LGA 1366 Intel X58 4-WAY SLI Classified
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
November 29, 2009 9:54:04 AM

2x5970

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

LIAN LI PC-P80 Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

3x in raid5 Western Digital Caviar Black WD2001FASS 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ENERMAX Galaxy EVO EGX1250EWT 1250W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready
CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Compatible w/Core i7 Modular Active PFC Power Supply -

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

2x CORSAIR DOMINATOR-GT 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 15000) Desktop Memory Model CMG6GX3M3A1866C7 - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

EVGA E760 CLASSIFIED "Overclocker's Pick" 3-Way SLI + PhysX 1366 Intel X58 EATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
3 Way SLI, Digital PWM, E-Leet Utility and Vdroop control

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core i7-920 Bloomfield 2.66GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Pioneer Black 12X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 5X DVD-RAM 8X BD-ROM 4MB Cache SATA Internal Blu-ray Disc/DVD/CD Writer Model BDR-205BKS

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

2x in raid0 OCZ Vertex Series OCZSSD2-1VTX250G 2.5" 250GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid state disk (SSD) games and apps

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OCZ Z-DRIVE OCZSSDPCIE-ZDP84256G PCI-E 250GB PCI Express x8 MLC Internal Solid state

disk boot drive

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

prolimatech megashadow

http://www.amazon.com/Prolimatech-Cooler-Deluxe-Socket-...

2 fans

http://www.amazon.com/Scythe-Slip-Stream-SY1225SL12SH-C...


bout $6000
November 29, 2009 1:44:33 PM

obsidian86's build is very solid!! of course for $6,000 is should be :D  :lol: 

My question is, why spend over $2,200 on a PC, which will be obsolete in terms on performance standards in 6 months time (GTX3xx, i9 CPU's, USB 3.0 / SATA 6GB... etc coming out (or already out) very soon. My recommendation would be keep your PC cost to within $2,200 or so (1 - SSD, 1 - 5970, 1 - 1TB HDD, Corsair 850TX/HX PSU... etc), purchase a nice 30" Dell monitor and call it a day! Your PC will still be one of the best on the market and your wallet will still be heavy (which doesn't seem to be an issue for you like most... :D  ) This is the problem with these types of opened threads where money is no object... we, as responders, lose sight of reality in terms of value to performance and recommend the "MAX" we can seem to fit within a system, were it isn't needed to get the performance the OP wants.

Just my two cents! :)  :pt1cable: 
November 29, 2009 1:54:57 PM

i've put down a lot more then $6000 on a pc (well not my money was for a render rig for the company i work for)
November 29, 2009 2:03:39 PM

obsidian86 said:
(well not my money was for a render rig for the company i work for)

You have to love spending someone else money to build / purchase a PC for work!! I've always enjoyed saying, I need this $700 SixSigma software to help with this project or I need a $2,000 scanner to verify this information... Things, I would never purchase with my own money [:mousemonkey:5]
November 29, 2009 2:44:48 PM

3weeks ago they put down 16k on a new liquid cooled dual xeon 5590 rig with 2 quadro fx 5800's and a gtx 275 you should've see the looks on the sales peoples faces when i picked that up in my 99 civic
November 29, 2009 2:52:51 PM

LOL...now that's funny.
November 29, 2009 9:35:11 PM

wow finnaly someone suggesting a build thats actually worth this guys money +1 for u obsidian ( especially with the mega shadow )
and like i said id wait and see when the lucid hydra mobo comes out as it can incorporate both nvidia cards adn ATI cards at 1 time giving substantially higher performance than any SLI or XFIRE setup
November 29, 2009 11:29:25 PM

I agree with Tecmo. As nice as Obsidian's build is, the bang/buck just isn't there when spending so much. I couldn't do it, even when spending OPM, without a clear business case for it.
Anonymous
November 30, 2009 12:29:15 AM

Obsidian has said it.

Don't skimp on the PSU. These cards can draw 500 watts EACH. And that is before you OC them up to 20% more.

http://www.techspot.com/review/221-ati-radeon-hd-5970/p... - 5970 power consumption.


If money isn't a problem, you can get a little better performance out of the i7 extreme. Better stock clocks, and an unlocked multiplier if you want to OC. The performance of dual 5970's will actually be limited by your cpu, so for $800 more you can increase the performance a bit more.

I don't know much about water cooling, but I'd OC and watercool if I had the money.

If you air cool (at high overclocks) the thermalright ifx-14 is probably the best heatsink for the i7.

But if cost isn't the issue, water cooling is cooler and quieter.
November 30, 2009 12:32:09 AM

They don't draw anywhere near 500W each. The whole system with complete with a 5970 under heavy stress doesn't even manage that.
November 30, 2009 4:42:32 AM

lol his name speaks for himself and ontop of that that cooler is not the best air cooler on the market not even in the top 3 i believe the megashadow that obsidian suggested is rated number 1
December 11, 2009 1:57:45 AM

tecmo34 said:
[My question is, why spend over $2,200 on a PC,


Why not eat every meal at McDonalds and never go to a good restaurant and pay 5 times as much for food.
Why buy a Porsche over a Yugo ?
Why not go to a uper* for your Honeynoom
Why not buy your suits at Walmart ?
What's wrong with a $10 hooker ?


December 11, 2009 2:10:50 AM

Another 'hit and run' poster.
December 11, 2009 2:45:49 AM

JackNaylorPE said:
Why not eat every meal at McDonalds and never go to a good restaurant and pay 5 times as much for food.
Why buy a Porsche over a Yugo ?
Why not go to a uper* for your Honeynoom
Why not buy your suits at Walmart ?
What's wrong with a $10 hooker ?

1) The OP asked for advice[/] on the build. I was giving the OP my advice that it isn't worth spending over $2,200 on a PC. I never said not to spend/buy the PC. It just isn't worth the extra money for little performance gain... IMO
2) The concept of "disposable money" means one has money to waste. IMO... One who has "disposable money" doesn't seek advice. They just buy and if it doesn't meet their expectations no big deal, they'll buy another one later. Since the OP asked for advice, the OP has concern that they are getting the best deal for the money, hence me stating not worth the money.

In the end, it is the OP's money and choice to spend it how they like! I just wanted to help them spend it wiser :D 
December 12, 2009 10:26:48 PM

tecmo34 said:
1) The OP asked for advice[/] on the build. I was giving the OP my advice that it isn't worth spending over $2,200 on a PC. I never said not to spend/buy the PC. It just isn't worth the extra money for little performance gain... IMO
2) The concept of "disposable money" means one has money to waste. IMO... One who has "disposable money" doesn't seek advice. They just buy and if it doesn't meet their expectations no big deal, they'll buy another one later. Since the OP asked for advice, the OP has concern that they are getting the best deal for the money, hence me stating not worth the money.

In the end, it is the OP's money and choice to spend it how they like! I just wanted to help them spend it wiser :D 


Disposable income" is a specific term with a dictionary definition tho a better term would be "discretionary income". After paying all your bills lets say you have $350 a month for spending money. You might use that for:

$50 cigarettes
$50 Beers on Friday w/ buddies
$50 movies w/ kids
$50 dinner w/ wifie
$100 puter hardware
$50 games and software

Now someone w/ the same amount of cashola may get more enjoyment out of tweaking w/ his puter than you do. Should anyone else be making a decision for you that you could spend your money "wiser" by not having a beer w/ ya buds ? To you, is hanging out and relaxing w/ ya buds a "waste of money" ?

If someone wants to spend twice as much money as you do on hardware and gets as much enjoyment out of that as someone else does outta his ciggies and budwesiers, whio but the user gets to decide just what he enjoys ?

Since my son built his new box, we have been spending loads of time together tweaking his box just for the fun of it. We tweaked the BIOS earlier and managed to get from 4.2 to 4.3 GHz .

I had a client once whom I became very friendly with.....he was a real estate developer and got lucky and was living high on the hog for a while......when things turned sour, he was going to have to sell his 9,500 sf house. I had just completed designs on another project with 4,000 5,000 sf homes and when I suggested to his wife that she run over and check them out, her answer was that she could never live in a tiny house like that :) 

Now you and I are laughing at such a statement but the fact remains, she would have been very unhappy. It's like the THG review of the Batman game, you won't miss the PhysX effects in Batman if ya never turned them on, but once ya do, you ain't even going back because you simply won't be satisfied (read happy) with it. So in short, what I am saying is, we are all just building these things to make us "happy" and people have different thresholds of what it takes to make them happy.
December 12, 2009 10:37:08 PM

"So in short, what I am saying is, we are all just building these things to make us "happy" and people have different thresholds of what it takes to make them happy. "

Funny part is...a person's threshold of happiness is never the same. A guy used to driving a Ferrari is not gonna like driving a Toyota Prius when he loses most of his money. Once a person who used to drive a Toyota Prius drives a Ferrari for a while, he won't wanna go back to the Prius as long as he has the income to maintain the Ferrari. In other words, people that have money can enjoy "higher luxuries" like buying a $6,000 computer and upgrading every 6 months to make as fast and powerful as possible but to regular people like me, they're just wasting their money because they have disposable income. It all depends on how much money you got and how much money you need to spend to make yourself as happy as possible.
December 13, 2009 12:37:07 AM

Agreed....I'd like to have Elliot Spitzers money, join the Emperor's Club and pay for those fancy hotel rooms,.....but my wife will do it for $10 and I don't have to tip the maid.
December 15, 2009 3:49:45 AM

theres no such thing as wasting money if its going to a self believed good cause , screw what everyone else thinks . point blank
December 20, 2009 8:30:31 PM

When I was younger and dumber I paid AU$9000 for a intel Pentium III setup because I insisted on being a first in Australia. Never again. It was obsolete in 12 months. These days a computer config is obsolete in 6 if not 4 months.

I wouldnt spend over 4 now unless the PC is generating money I have to ask myself (every day) before I press "BUY NOW" Do I really need it? is it worth it?

These days I spend more on things like monitors, headsets, surround systems and anything else that makes the office look awesome (lol) and makes things more enjoyable to use the pc that I am now happy with.

Just my 2 cents cheers
!