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a c 149 K Overclocking
May 10, 2012 4:58:36 AM

So I am going to purchase my watercooling parts in two weeks!!! Unfortunately, I will not be able to assemble the loop until June 12th, because Mom said I need to wait until school is over! :o  However, I will be posting photos etc. and might be able to sneak build the loop :whistle:  Anyways, I just want to go over these parts and make sure these are the best things I can get!


CPU Block: XSPC Raystorm
http://www.svc.com/rayintel.html

Radiator: XSPC EX240
http://www.svc.com/ex240.html

Reservoir: XSPC Single Bay Reservoir
http://www.svc.com/br525cl.html
Pump: Swiftech MCP 655-B
http://www.svc.com/mcp655-b.html

Tubing: 8FT of PrimoChill PrimoFlex Tubing 1/2"ID 3/4"OD with 1/8" Wall
http://www.svc.com/pflexp-34-b.html

Fittings: 10 XSPC G1/4" Chrome Compression Fittings 1/2" ID 3/4" OD
http://www.svc.com/g1412c.html

For those of you who do not know, I am cooling an i7-2600k! BTW is the res good? I specifically choose it because it is a drive bay res which makes filling easier IMO.

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a c 190 K Overclocking
May 10, 2012 6:27:57 AM

Looks good, and a tip?
Don't sneak build behind Mom's back, 'pre-build' it on paper and in your head, plenty of time to tweak tube routing and layouts long before you start cutting tube up,
plus you will only P%&^ her off, not worth it man, use the time productively instead to perfect the build :) 
I would go for the dualbay res over the single but it should be fine
Moto
a c 149 K Overclocking
May 10, 2012 7:00:56 AM

BTW do you know if the pump that i will be getting has lower voltage connectors? i dont' want it to be loud all the time..and svc doesn't have any more of them with speed controllers. Maybe I can control it with a fan controller?
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a b K Overclocking
May 10, 2012 12:46:23 PM

hay amuffin, jest some food for thought, I do like thick wall tubing, but the size you have chosen unless all of your components are G3/8 connection, it is not serving any real purpose. the G1/4 connection is closer to a 3/8 ID tubing than a 1/2 ID tubing, and the fittings for 3/8 ID 5/8 OD are cheaper. the tubing is cheaper too, but I use 3/8 ID 1/2 OD but I am real cheep, and I do not suggest that set up. but it is the same principle. don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to tell you how to build your system, I just thought that I should mention it.
a c 190 K Overclocking
May 10, 2012 3:52:01 PM

The MCP655-B is the same exact pump as the MCP655 only it does not have the on-board speed controller
^This, and yes, you can control the voltage to the pump with a fancontroller as long as the F/c can handle the throughput
Moto
a b K Overclocking
May 10, 2012 4:11:13 PM

most motherboard fan headers do not have the required amp rating to handle a pump, and there are pumps with PWM control that use the CPU fan header to control pump speed. they do not provide the power for the pump as well, the power comes from the Molex connector. the swiftech 35X is like this, but I have never bought one. I prefer the 655 series, even without the speed controller the 655 series is very quite.
a c 149 K Overclocking
May 10, 2012 10:46:32 PM

It would be controllable via fan controller?
a c 190 K Overclocking
May 10, 2012 10:47:46 PM

As long as you calulate the total Amps being pulled through it yes, its just a variable resistor on the positive line basically,
Moto
May 11, 2012 12:27:47 AM

ahh so you're going with the raystorm. well looks good anyway, but you should consider kill coils or the copper sulfate additives it's pretty nasty to have gunk growing in your loop.
a c 149 K Overclocking
May 11, 2012 4:11:00 AM

Can someone find me those..idk where they are!! :o  But I want the DD but there happens to be problems with mounting :( 
a b K Overclocking
May 11, 2012 4:59:48 AM

find what? what is DD? are you ok?
a c 149 K Overclocking
May 11, 2012 5:08:36 AM

toolmaker_03 said:
are you ok?

We're all a little crazy inside :pt1cable: 
a b K Overclocking
May 11, 2012 6:53:35 AM

that's the same as the XSPC blocks is it going to hit some component on the mother board that it would be going on? what is your mother board any way I could take a look at the design and tell you if it will fit without hitting anything if you like?
a c 149 K Overclocking
May 11, 2012 7:31:34 AM

In my config, but it's an Asrock Z68 Extreme 4 Gen 3. Looks like it could possibly hit those gold capped capacitors.. :o 
a c 149 K Overclocking
May 11, 2012 8:18:28 AM

Well it was kind of the raystorm or dd-m6.
a b K Overclocking
May 11, 2012 8:25:51 AM

but don't they both attach the same way as far as clearance for the hold down plate on top. as far as I could tell most blocks for that processor attach in the same way are close to the same design for the top plate on the block that was the only one I found that will defiantly not hit the caps.
a c 149 K Overclocking
May 11, 2012 8:33:53 AM

Actually it won't hit it at all! It's an X shape, so it fits perfectly! :D 
a b K Overclocking
May 11, 2012 8:46:30 AM

well then there is your answer, go with the raystorm
a c 205 K Overclocking
May 11, 2012 1:11:02 PM

amuffin said:
BTW do you know if the pump that i will be getting has lower voltage connectors? i dont' want it to be loud all the time..and svc doesn't have any more of them with speed controllers. Maybe I can control it with a fan controller?


The variable speed may be back in stock in 2 weeks?

Even though you can run it on a fan controller, I wouldn't, the variable resistor inside the variable speed model is designed specifically for the pump load.

And as Moto said, Listen to your mother, don't bypass her limitations! Ry
May 11, 2012 1:52:37 PM

on my mount of the danger den block, on a asus P8Z68-V pro gen3 it didn't hit any capacitors, the newer mounting system uses spring retention like normal blocks so i think the shim system has been thrown out of service. i honestly doubt that the block will hit a capacitor but you can always double check.
a c 149 K Overclocking
May 11, 2012 3:37:46 PM

Can't decide... :( 
a c 190 K Overclocking
May 11, 2012 3:40:52 PM

Get the Raystorm and stop being a whiny lil byatch hehe :) 
sometimes the problem of choice is its own killer creativity-wise, if you had no options you would make any block fit :p 
Moto
a c 149 K Overclocking
May 11, 2012 3:48:35 PM

I dunno, maybe if cyansnow is willing to lower the price i'll buy the danger den :) 

Currently I am set on the raystorm though.
May 11, 2012 5:47:00 PM

it's cyan here, i'd be willing to go 45 if you want it still.
a c 149 K Overclocking
May 11, 2012 7:12:11 PM

45 for DD-M6 block or $60 for Raystorm, DD-M6 has been used for a little. Which one!! :o 
a c 324 K Overclocking
May 11, 2012 8:00:59 PM

If the DD is in good shape, go for it.

Even an outdated (and cheap) Rasa block would be a decent choice.

To be perfectly honest- you aren't going to tell any cooling performance between the 2, so the choice is purely aesthetic and financial.
a c 149 K Overclocking
May 11, 2012 11:20:27 PM

Cyan, please post pictures of the block here so they can see! :o 
a c 205 K Overclocking
May 12, 2012 12:31:18 PM

amuffin said:
45 for DD-M6 block or $60 for Raystorm, DD-M6 has been used for a little. Which one!! :o 


If cyansnow is guaranteeing the block go for it, jump in the pool please!

That saves you 15 bucks to get the water pumping heart of the system, the variable speed MCP655, and it is available at other online stores.

Best Price I could Find $76.95 + Shipping

And it's cheaper than your proposed SVC non variable speed in your OP.
a c 149 K Overclocking
May 12, 2012 4:47:05 PM

I think i'll call them up next week to check if they have the parts! What really sucks is they aren't open on weekends, so my parents can't take me after school. :( 

BTW Performance-PCS is in florida i believe and i'm in cali so it takes ~$20 to ship to me!! :o 
a c 149 K Overclocking
May 12, 2012 4:47:54 PM

Cyan is sending me pics of the block, i'll post them here so you guys can inspect them!
a c 149 K Overclocking
May 12, 2012 11:03:46 PM

Cyan's block, how does it look? It looks pretty good to me, i think i'll probably buy it. Just want another opinion.


a c 190 K Overclocking
May 12, 2012 11:32:48 PM

looks fine now buy it and get on with the build Fo sho....
Moto
a c 205 K Overclocking
May 13, 2012 12:50:31 PM

amuffin said:
I think i'll call them up next week to check if they have the parts! What really sucks is they aren't open on weekends, so my parents can't take me after school. :( 

BTW Performance-PCS is in florida i believe and i'm in cali so it takes ~$20 to ship to me!! :o 


Buying locally will always limit your options.

Shipping is just a fact of life today to get what you really want.

None of us like to have to pay for shipping but your best advantage is if you're going to have to have what you want shipped, buy it all from the same place that has everything you need, if you can because weight has everything to do with the shipping costs.

Meaning it may cost you the same thing to ship one thing as it does to ship 5, as long as the weight falls in a certain range.

And FYI some places will actually offer free shipping if you spend a certain level of money at their store.
a c 149 K Overclocking
May 13, 2012 8:55:54 PM

Thing is SVC is near my mom's work so she can swing by there to pick up the order of parts. The problem with buying online is shipping, all of these stores are located so far away..the only part I really have to pay shipping is cyan's block!
May 13, 2012 10:53:19 PM

shipping wont be that much from tx to ca honestly... i can get a small flat rate for like five dollars.
a c 149 K Overclocking
May 14, 2012 12:17:51 AM

I know i was thinking about $5 too..i'll contact ya in a week or two about the block. :D 
a c 149 K Overclocking
May 21, 2012 6:05:27 AM

Bay res this time...? Or something else..
a c 190 K Overclocking
May 21, 2012 6:48:51 AM

T-Virus, two of :) 
Moto
a c 190 K Overclocking
May 21, 2012 7:41:43 AM

Micro res fine, its just somewhere for air bubble to collect really, makes it easier to top up and get the air out,
killcoils are tiny, it will fit in a bayres, inside one of your tubes, pretty much anywhere
I have one in each bayres and a couple in tubes through the loop, as well as my UV's ofc
Moto
a c 149 K Overclocking
May 21, 2012 3:37:24 PM

How many should I get?
a b K Overclocking
May 21, 2012 3:47:19 PM

one would be enough, the rest is all preference, heck even the one is preference but it does make a loop easy to fill, and it prolongs the life of a pump. so I do see a advantage to having one in the loop but I do not like the swiftech line of reservoirs they are not made well or of good material for a water cooling loop the XSPC or bitspower both make good reservoirs for this purpose. don't get me wrong I like swiftech allot for blocks and rads but not there res.
a c 149 K Overclocking
May 21, 2012 3:50:49 PM

SO I should get the original bay res above correct?
a b K Overclocking
May 21, 2012 3:53:44 PM

yes that one is fine.
a c 149 K Overclocking
May 25, 2012 12:33:50 AM

I called up svc today, they said they don't have mcp655's anymore and carry them. However, I talked with someone there who said they are going to carry some new Alphacool pumps which run at 1500rpm instead of the 1250 the 655 runs at. The guy I talked with has the same case as well and we had a decently long disussion. He said they themselves were going to be putting together wc kits with good parts. Ex240, raystorm, primochill tubing etc. He as well told me I should use the ex240 to cool my 2600k because the rx240 has clearance issues in the cm 690 ii advanced. He also told me I should run a push pull setup with the ex240. Basically Im going to purchase the rad and CPU block next week but wait another week until they carry new parts. All of their new stuff arrives in 2 weeks.
a c 76 K Overclocking
May 25, 2012 1:59:32 AM

wow, this thread seemed to have run under my nasal radar :p 

nice work so far - I like that M6 block - is it in gold plated flavor or brass?
a c 149 K Overclocking
May 25, 2012 2:04:32 AM

I think it's brass, but i'm going to buy it from cyan some time in the next few days.
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