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Is my water cooler nessercary?

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May 10, 2012 9:29:50 PM

Custom PC build, which hasn't been ordered yet.
Here are the specs:

Intel i5 3570k - Not overclocked yet. Will do in the future.
HD Radeon 7970
Corsair 650W
Corsair 8GB 1600MHz Vengeance
Gigabyte GA – 277 – D3H, Intel Z77
1TB Seagate STI000DM003 Barracuda 7200 RPM, 6 GB/s 64MB Cache
Samsung SE-208AB USB 2.0 DVD
Logitech Desktop Mk120 Wired Combo


*Corsair H60 liquid CPU cooler*
a c 190 K Overclocking
May 10, 2012 10:27:20 PM

I don't personally like Allinone coolers, but the question here is 'Is it necessary?'
If you intend on overclocking seriously in the future then invest the money in a real watercooling loop, and until you can afford to do that, stick with a good highend air cooler, like Noctuas DH14, Thermaltakes Silver arrow or the everpopular Hyper 212+
if you haven't ordered yet, look at the aircooler options as they won't do a proper water option
Moto
May 10, 2012 10:31:36 PM

Motopsychojdn said:
I don't personally like Allinone coolers, but the question here is 'Is it necessary?'
If you intend on overclocking seriously in the future then invest the money in a real watercooling loop, and until you can afford to do that, stick with a good highend air cooler, like Noctuas DH14, Thermaltakes Silver arrow or the everpopular Hyper 212+
if you haven't ordered yet, look at the aircooler options as they won't do a proper water option
Moto


Thanks for the advice sir!

What is a 'real water cooling loop' ?

Would the H60 Corsair Liquid cooler classify as one of those?
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a c 190 K Overclocking
May 10, 2012 10:40:13 PM

No, that is the 'Allinone' type of selfcontained system I am referring to and advising you against,
by Real watercooling I mean assembling a loop yourself by buying the components,
pump, blocks radiators etc and building it, low end liquid coolers like the H50 etc can be easily outperformed by good aircoolers like the ones I mentioned,
if you have Watercooling it should not be beaten by air coolers

Moto
May 10, 2012 10:53:08 PM

Motopsychojdn said:
No, that is the 'Allinone' type of selfcontained system I am referring to and advising you against,
by Real watercooling I mean assembling a loop yourself by buying the components,
pump, blocks radiators etc and building it, low end liquid coolers like the H50 etc can be easily outperformed by good aircoolers like the ones I mentioned,
if you have Watercooling it should not be beaten by air coolers

Moto


Thanks, I shall be making changes to my PC build (It's my first time lol)

Btw, what size fans (of the ones you mentioned) should I be looking at? Cause there's so many and different prices, especially for the 212 Plus.

Also, are there anymore around the £50 price range which out does liquid coolers?
May 11, 2012 5:57:41 AM

Motopsychojdn said:
Most coolers take 120mm fans, some are available now that use 140's but they are still quite uncommon, check the spec sheets of any coolers you look at


http://www.ebuyer.com/288855-coolermaster-hyper-212-evo... £30
http://www.ebuyer.com/147097-noctua-nh-u12p-se2-intel-l... £50
the DH14 is a touch more at £66
I dare say you can shop around and probably find them cheaper, i just used Ebuyer as a link reference for you
Moto


Ah thanks bro :) 

I am getting all my parts from eBuyer :D 

Oh, do you know much about cases, by any chance? o.O
May 11, 2012 6:03:11 AM

Motopsychojdn said:
Most coolers take 120mm fans, some are available now that use 140's but they are still quite uncommon, check the spec sheets of any coolers you look at


http://www.ebuyer.com/288855-coolermaster-hyper-212-evo... £30
http://www.ebuyer.com/147097-noctua-nh-u12p-se2-intel-l... £50
the DH14 is a touch more at £66
I dare say you can shop around and probably find them cheaper, i just used Ebuyer as a link reference for you
Moto


Also, how much better is the DH 14 compared to the 12p?
a c 190 K Overclocking
May 11, 2012 3:39:07 PM

According to this guys review (Home user) the 212 can get within 10'c of the DH14 (with only two fans on)
so assuming you can fit it in ok, the DH14 seems the monster performer here, and a third fan should eke a couple more degrees of cooling for you if needed, http://www.overclock.net/t/819568/review-noctua-nh-d14-...
Case-wise I always say its a personal choice really, do you like lights/mesh/windows/ black/white/red/blue?
look in the galleries here and in homebuild to scope out some you like the look of, and see how folks have modded them
Moto
May 12, 2012 3:01:14 AM

Save yourself and get a 2500k!!! Forget the 3570K
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