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November 30, 2009 6:40:11 AM

Hi, I recently got a brand new graphics card, the XFX 9800 GT 512MB, and along with that I upgraded my 250w PSU to a 500w.
I am just worried my computer is bottlenecked somehow, as a friend of mine has an 8800GT and can play TF2 on highest settings, on a better resolution then mine, and 8xAA and still achieve 60+ frames per second. I play with highest settings, a slightly lower resolution (1440x900) with 4xAA and sometimes achieve 30-40 frames per second in the middle of an intense fight. (He got those 60+ frames per second in the middle of an intense fight as well)

Here are my computer specs:

XFX 9800GT 512MB
E6600
2 Gigs of RAM
500w PSU

and some motherboard that came with this HP computer, I will replace if needed.

I am currently running windows vista. Here is my CPU-Z http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=856171
Thanks in advance.

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November 30, 2009 6:49:53 AM

You could try overclocking the CPU.

Which 8800GT are we talking about here? The last 8800GT revision I saw was later renamed to 9800GTX+, which is higher than the 9800GTX and the 9800GT.
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November 30, 2009 7:00:31 AM

Just asked my friend, it's a Palit 8800GT 512MB. Is my system bottlenecked? And if so what parts should I buy.
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November 30, 2009 8:08:52 AM

bddazza, i just have to comment on your fps facts.

have you played many computer games? competitive online computer games? 25 fps is unplayable.

anything less than 60 fps is noticably crap and "bottleneck's" your aim (laggy feeling). this is with v-sync turned off.

firetaffer, go to video settings and use the recommended setup. then turn OFF v-sync, HDR and AA. use your monitor's native resolution. TF2 is my 'most played' game over the last 2 years. it's very touchy, performance seems to differ greatly from machine to machine, I play with AA turned off at 1680x1050 on a hd4890 core i5 build (in intense fights it will always drop frames, and jagged on 1680x1050 are insignificant anyway imo).

you should also go to your console and run a few commands:

rate 30000
cl_cmdrate 66
cl_updaterate 66
cl_interp 0.05 (interp makes a MASSIVE difference, 50% less 'delay' than default setting 0.1)
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November 30, 2009 8:58:24 AM

yeah the broken edit thing sucks, strange that the other features on this forum are great imo.

framerate aside i think what you said was good advice. but i can't really comment on the hardware because regarding TF2 i jumped from a 25-50 fps on 6800GT (800x600 and lowest settings) to 150+ fps on my i5 hd4890 build (1680x1050 high settings).

another thing the OP could try is turn off multi-processor support. some have reported that it had reduced framerate, so it's something to try.
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a b U Graphics card
November 30, 2009 12:14:29 PM

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Forgive the double post, bloody Tomshardware does not let you edit your posts, this is a famous forum and you can not do something as basic as make edits?


Sorry, this does not have much to do with the OP's problem, but you can edit your posts perfectly fine.

Just like I edited this post. It is a fast simple thing to do.

One more late edit, to the OP, your 6600 processor is your problem. At 2.4ghz, it is simply not fast enough to push your video card to it's full potential, even your 9800 will show considerable improvement with a faster processor.
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November 30, 2009 4:28:46 PM

Thanks for all the help, I will probably upgrade my RAM, and might overclock my CPU or get a new one. If I got a new one, what one would you guys recommend? And at the moment is intel or amd the better value CPU? That quadcore you recommended, the Q9xxx, is it good? Also if I just cannot be stuffed ( :p  ) getting another CPU, then does anyone know where I can find a guide to overclock my E6600?

Thanks in advance.
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December 1, 2009 11:56:43 AM

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To be frank 40 Frames per second is spot on, ones eyes can not see above 25 FPS

That's not accurate to say the least.
Have a read here for example.


Back to the topic.
As others said, the blame goes to your CPU. Unfortunately there are barely any reviews/articles that deal with bottlenecks, so, no one will know how much exactly the CPU is bottlenecking your system but Tom's has recently published a great guide to avoid bottlenecking which can be found here. As you can see, the E6300 and a GTX 260 (which is roughly 20% faster than your GPU) are paired together. Compared to the quad core, the GTX 260 is performing ~30% below its potential.
That said, I'd recommend something in the middle like the Q8200.

Obviously, it's anything but a futureproof upgrade but probably enough for your needs and the best bang for your buck.
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December 1, 2009 1:36:05 PM

To the original poster,

What size and how much free space do you have on the hard drive where your sys cache is? This is usually C:

also, why is your E6600 running Freq : 1600.53 MHz (266.76 * 6) -- (from your CPU-Z)

shouldn't that be 2400.whatever MHz (240.xx * 10) ?
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December 1, 2009 4:39:55 PM

I have 120 GB out of 320 GB free.
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a b U Graphics card
December 2, 2009 7:56:27 AM

wayspooled said:
To the original poster,

What size and how much free space do you have on the hard drive where your sys cache is? This is usually C:

also, why is your E6600 running Freq : 1600.53 MHz (266.76 * 6) -- (from your CPU-Z)

shouldn't that be 2400.whatever MHz (240.xx * 10) ?


The original E6600 had a bus of 266, and it seems that 6 is the common multiplier for SpeedStep when idle. So it looks fine to me.
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