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December 2, 2009 9:45:58 PM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: This week

BUDGET RANGE: 700-800 after rebates

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT:WOW, lite photoshop use, video encoding, web surfing

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers.

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Newegg, but I'll consider anywhere

PARTS PREFERENCES: AMD most likely just for price

OVERCLOCKING: No, maybe upgradable?

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920x1080

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: I've gotten most of the info from the other builds in the forums, but now I've kinda got it jumbled together and I'm a little confused.

I set out with a $700 budget but i'm the kind of person that would rather spend an extra $100 and have it work for longer or better. I think this is overkill for WOW, but I would like a well balanced system that will multi-task well.

I've come up with the following please let me know if anyone has better recommendations

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... LG Black 22X DVD+R $28.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Antec 300 54.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 54.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... GIGABYTE GA-MA770T-UD3P 79.99 $10 mirb

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition 165.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... SAPPHIRE 100283-2L Radeon HD 5770 and CORSAIR CMPSU-750HX 750W combo 299.98 before $20 mirb

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... icrosoft Windows 7 Home Pre 64-bit $104.99

Total $789.88 $759.88 after rebates

I've build several systems but it's been about 4-5 years, so I'm kinda behind on all the new stuff. I would appreciate some input.

December 2, 2009 10:09:49 PM

Not sure how much money using a 5750 would save but you could probably use one of those
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December 3, 2009 3:25:03 AM

Ya I sure did forget the memory, duh. I've changed out 5770 for a 5750 and changed the power supply so here is the new list

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827136167 LG Black 22X DVD+R $28.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129042 Antec 300 54.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822152181 SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 54.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128392 GIGABYTE GA-MA770T-UD3P 79.99 $10 mirb

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103674 AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition 165.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... OCZ Fatal1ty OCZ550FTY 550W 64.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... APPHIRE 100284VXL Radeon HD 5750 154.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6832116754 icrosoft Windows 7 Home Pre 64-bit $104.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 99.99

Total $809.97
after rebates $774

Overall does everything look like it will work well together, and am i wasting money or not spending enough on anything else?

Thanks for the help!
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December 3, 2009 4:09:13 AM

Hmm for me on 1920 x 1080 waay too lite in the area that matters most in a gaming rig i.e GPU! For $708 AR $105 for Win 7 HP 64 ^^ Go for raw frames rather than DX11 for now


Casing Video Review
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiXDgIMZ1sk
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December 3, 2009 3:11:28 PM

Thanks for the reply, so I probably need to do more research on the GPU's Is the HD4890 a better card then the HD 5770, just not dx11 compatible (which I doubt I need anyway)?
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December 3, 2009 3:13:37 PM

Yes raw frames HD 4890 > HD 5770
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December 3, 2009 8:19:31 PM

True for some reason i thought wow ran on Direct x but it doesnt lol, he could probably go with a 4870 for that matter
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December 3, 2009 11:11:05 PM

I just noticed these cased don't have external 3.5" slots. I have a 3.5 multi card reader that I would like to use, any suggestions?
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December 3, 2009 11:35:00 PM

It will come with a 3.5 adapter from the 5.25
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December 4, 2009 1:26:57 AM

In the meantime you turn up from 4XAA to 8xAA the HD 4890 is neck to neck with a GTX 285 @@


then checking benches with 8XAA we see it at best matches the HD 4870 in some games
http://www.techspot.com/review/209-ati-radeon-hd-5770/p...
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At $160 the Radeon HD 5770 appears to be picking up where the Radeon HD 4870 left off. Unfortunately we found the new card to be running slightly short on performance compared to both the Radeon 4870 and the GeForce GTX 260. On its favor you have a more efficient operation, a smaller PCB, some new features like Eyefinity and DirectX 11, though it's ultimately up to you to decide whether those make a big enough difference.
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December 4, 2009 1:38:42 AM

He could get a 4850 and still get decent frames
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December 4, 2009 1:44:29 AM

Agree - if it falls in the $9x-11x range Another option is GTS 250 $109.99
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December 4, 2009 3:19:17 AM

Hmm at one time that XFX 4870 was in the $15x country so thats a tad high for a HD 4870 For 1920 x 1080 if you could land a HD 5850 within your means that would be awesome!
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December 4, 2009 3:20:31 AM

If you only plan to play wow then no, but if you think you may end up playing more gpu intensive games I would go with the 4890
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December 4, 2009 3:30:45 AM

Ya that XFX was about $150 I kinda missed the boat by not ordering.

I don't know if I will end up playing anything other then wow, it's possible but wow already takes up too much time :) 

Is there any other benefit to getting the better GPU other then games? Such as am I going to be able to encode movies faster, ext? If there are other benefits. I don't plan to replace this machine in the near future either, so I want to get stuff that will last without blowing tons of money.
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December 4, 2009 3:37:07 AM

If you dun need that much horsepower then get a HD4890/5770 as per your preference By the time u do there would prolly be better tech/frames for the same $$
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December 4, 2009 5:11:41 AM

thanks again for the help guys, It's ordered :) 
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December 4, 2009 5:19:49 AM

You are welcomed ^^
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December 8, 2009 8:56:53 PM

Got all my parts today and I'm getting it all put together. I got the beta evo case, and I really like it however it didn't include an adapter to put in a 3.5 external drive for my multi card reader. I'm thinking about cutting on of the 5" drive covers out, but I think it might look bad because they are rounded. Anyone else have a suggestion?
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December 8, 2009 9:02:17 PM

leave 'em on
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December 8, 2009 9:19:07 PM

if your worried about the looks you could just use an external card reader
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December 9, 2009 3:07:50 PM

I ended up cutting out one of the bay covers and in turned out nice.

Now I can't get windows 7 to install :(  Hangs on starting setup, anyone have any advice or links that might help me trouble shoot it?

Ended up changing the timings of my RAM in the bios, and it installed. So far everything is nice and fast :) 
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December 9, 2009 3:19:09 PM

coolwhhip said:
Check out this WoW benchmark. Shows 4870<4890<5770 and the 275 right above that.

http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,697202/Ati-Radeon-HD...

And the $30 Windows 7 is upgrade version, not full.



Um the upgrade version is perfectly fine for a clean install as well...I know, I got 1 last month for my new rig.
It's also the "full" version, as in it's exactly the same as a retail full price $180 copy of win 7. Heck, I got Win 7 pro for the $30. The only diff between the upgrade version and retail is you need to burn the upgrade onto a bootable img on another computer first. For a $150 discount totally worth the 5 minutes that takes.

Would totally tell ppl to find a college kid and get it that way.
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December 10, 2009 8:37:31 PM

banthracis said:
Um the upgrade version is perfectly fine for a clean install as well...I know, I got 1 last month for my new rig.
It's also the "full" version, as in it's exactly the same as a retail full price $180 copy of win 7. Heck, I got Win 7 pro for the $30. The only diff between the upgrade version and retail is you need to burn the upgrade onto a bootable img on another computer first. For a $150 discount totally worth the 5 minutes that takes.

Would totally tell ppl to find a college kid and get it that way.


Is it legal?
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December 10, 2009 8:43:16 PM

coolwhhip said:
Is it legal?


Yea it's totally legal, it's being sold by microsoft lol. Go to http://win741.com/
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December 10, 2009 9:01:54 PM

I mean using the 'upgrade' version as 'full' version. I know that they are sold differently so I would expect what you described above is some kind of hack to get upgrade to run as full, which sounds illegal. Or is it just a convenient way to save money?
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December 10, 2009 9:03:52 PM

coolwhhip said:
I mean using the 'upgrade' version as 'full' version. I know that they are sold differently so I would expect what you described above is some kind of hack to get upgrade to run as full, which sounds illegal. Or is it just a convenient way to save money?



Yes its completely legal. Go to 741 website and it says you can do it that way and gives you a link to how to do it.

It's basically just a digital dl of Win 7. They made it the upgrade version I dunno y, so they can avoid mailing you a DVD i guess. Though you can pay extra to have em mail you a DVD...


edit: they actually have a link to a fully bootable iso for dl now, so all you really need is another comp to burn it onto a DVD.
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December 11, 2009 10:38:29 AM

kev83202 said:
So far everything is nice and fast :) 


Gratz on your new build and game on :bounce: 
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