Second replay need subscription?

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I want to add a second replaytv to my network. This won't be needed to
record except occasionally from the analog inputs.

I want to use the second replay to stream recorded shows to another
room.

I've searched all the message headers here and find no reference to
this, probably often-asked, question. Please tell me I won't need a
second subscription.... Now, please tell me the truth.

Thanks,
Dick
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  1. Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.replaytv (More info?)

    You'll need to activate the unit to continue using it. It would be nice
    if they offered a remote non recording unit but they don't. However,
    using DVArchive you can use that old PC in the closet to do the same
    thing.

    From:Richard Hall
    rhall@SPAMblarg.net

    > I want to add a second replaytv to my network. This won't be needed to
    > record except occasionally from the analog inputs.
    >
    > I want to use the second replay to stream recorded shows to another
    > room.
    >
    > I've searched all the message headers here and find no reference to
    > this, probably often-asked, question. Please tell me I won't need a
    > second subscription.... Now, please tell me the truth.
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Dick
  2. Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.replaytv (More info?)

    Thanks for the reply.

    Are you saying that a replaytv is _absolutely worthless_ without a
    subscription?

    I do use DVArchive but find Java to be less than good software, in my
    opinion. DVArchive has stopped working on my p4 and uninstalling and
    reinstalling both java and DVArchive has failed to fix the problem.
    (XPPro)

    Personally, I think Java is pure junk. Is it trying to be an operating
    system? A program?

    I have a virgin win98 SE install that runs DVArchive but refuses to
    play shows. I can import them and then copy the mpeg to my p4 and play
    it there but it needs to transfer the entire file before play starts.

    My laptop (XPPro) will run DVArchive well but I only have a 40 gig
    drive there. It's not a good solution.

    All I want is to be able to stream video from the replaytv without
    waiting for the entire show to be copied.

    A properly functioning DVArchive might do the trick.

    On Sun, 23 May 2004 19:29:39 GMT, "BruceR" <brNOSPAM@hawaii.com>
    wrote:

    >You'll need to activate the unit to continue using it. It would be nice
    >if they offered a remote non recording unit but they don't. However,
    >using DVArchive you can use that old PC in the closet to do the same
    >thing.
    >
    >From:Richard Hall
    >rhall@SPAMblarg.net
    >
    >> I want to add a second replaytv to my network. This won't be needed to
    >> record except occasionally from the analog inputs.
    >>
    >> I want to use the second replay to stream recorded shows to another
    >> room.
    >>
    >> I've searched all the message headers here and find no reference to
    >> this, probably often-asked, question. Please tell me I won't need a
    >> second subscription.... Now, please tell me the truth.
    >>
    >> Thanks,
    >> Dick
    >
  3. Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.replaytv (More info?)

    On Sun, 23 May 2004 14:20:52 -0700, Richard Hall <rhall@blarg.net>
    wrote:

    >Thanks for the reply.
    >
    >Are you saying that a replaytv is _absolutely worthless_ without a
    >subscription?
    >

    Not quite absolutely worthless. There's always the possability of a
    burglar breaking in during the night, and you want something to hit
    him on the head with :)

    >I do use DVArchive but find Java to be less than good software, in my
    >opinion. DVArchive has stopped working on my p4 and uninstalling and
    >reinstalling both java and DVArchive has failed to fix the problem.
    >(XPPro)
    >
    >Personally, I think Java is pure junk. Is it trying to be an operating
    >system? A program?
    >
    >I have a virgin win98 SE install that runs DVArchive but refuses to
    >play shows. I can import them and then copy the mpeg to my p4 and play
    >it there but it needs to transfer the entire file before play starts.
    >
    >My laptop (XPPro) will run DVArchive well but I only have a 40 gig
    >drive there. It's not a good solution.
    >
    >All I want is to be able to stream video from the replaytv without
    >waiting for the entire show to be copied.
    >
    >A properly functioning DVArchive might do the trick.
    >
    >On Sun, 23 May 2004 19:29:39 GMT, "BruceR" <brNOSPAM@hawaii.com>
    >wrote:
    >
    >>You'll need to activate the unit to continue using it. It would be nice
    >>if they offered a remote non recording unit but they don't. However,
    >>using DVArchive you can use that old PC in the closet to do the same
    >>thing.
    >>
    >>From:Richard Hall
    >>rhall@SPAMblarg.net
    >>
    >>> I want to add a second replaytv to my network. This won't be needed to
    >>> record except occasionally from the analog inputs.
    >>>
    >>> I want to use the second replay to stream recorded shows to another
    >>> room.
    >>>
    >>> I've searched all the message headers here and find no reference to
    >>> this, probably often-asked, question. Please tell me I won't need a
    >>> second subscription.... Now, please tell me the truth.
    >>>
    >>> Thanks,
    >>> Dick
    >>
  4. Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.replaytv (More info?)

    On Sun, 23 May 2004 14:20:52 -0700, Richard Hall <rhall@blarg.net>
    wrote:

    >Thanks for the reply.
    >
    >Are you saying that a replaytv is _absolutely worthless_ without a
    >subscription?
    >
    >I do use DVArchive but find Java to be less than good software, in my
    >opinion. DVArchive has stopped working on my p4 and uninstalling and
    >reinstalling both java and DVArchive has failed to fix the problem.
    >(XPPro)
    >

    When I tried DVArchive on ME, it barely worked (worked once, then
    never again until OS reinstalled).

    It's working better now on Win2000. It works to transfer shows to PC.
    I also use it as a guide server (view guide and schedule shows from
    any networked PC). It has never been recognized by one of the Replays.

    >Personally, I think Java is pure junk. Is it trying to be an operating
    >system? A program?
    >

    Maybe something like the BASIC "interpreter" on the old home
    computers. Needed to run programs.

    I'd rather have a program that runs directly on Windows.

    >I have a virgin win98 SE install that runs DVArchive but refuses to
    >play shows. I can import them and then copy the mpeg to my p4 and play
    >it there but it needs to transfer the entire file before play starts.
    >

    I use mine to put shows on DVD-R, as well as for the guide.

    >My laptop (XPPro) will run DVArchive well but I only have a 40 gig
    >drive there. It's not a good solution.
    >

    I refuse to use XP (considering that built-in self-destruct device).
    Anyway, you can store the shows on a networked drive.

    >All I want is to be able to stream video from the replaytv without
    >waiting for the entire show to be copied.
    >
    >A properly functioning DVArchive might do the trick.
    >
    >On Sun, 23 May 2004 19:29:39 GMT, "BruceR" <brNOSPAM@hawaii.com>
    >wrote:
    >
    >>You'll need to activate the unit to continue using it. It would be nice
    >>if they offered a remote non recording unit but they don't. However,
    >>using DVArchive you can use that old PC in the closet to do the same
    >>thing.
    >>
    >>From:Richard Hall
    >>rhall@SPAMblarg.net
    >>
    >>> I want to add a second replaytv to my network. This won't be needed to
    >>> record except occasionally from the analog inputs.
    >>>
    >>> I want to use the second replay to stream recorded shows to another
    >>> room.
    >>>
    >>> I've searched all the message headers here and find no reference to
    >>> this, probably often-asked, question. Please tell me I won't need a
    >>> second subscription.... Now, please tell me the truth.
    >>>
    >>> Thanks,
    >>> Dick
    >>

    --
    Mark Lloyd
    http://go.to/notstupid
    http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

    "It is a curious thing that every creed promises a
    paradise which will be absolutely uninhabitable for
    anyone of civilized taste." -- Evelyn Waugh
  5. Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.replaytv (More info?)

    I still don't like Java. I have java & DVArchive running on three
    different computers and all three will lock up randomly. I maintain
    that java and dvarchive are not as solid as win me was.

    And I thought microsoft was the winner in the
    almost-good-enough-software contest.


    On Sun, 23 May 2004 21:44:58 -0500, Mark Lloyd
    <mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx> wrote:

    >On Sun, 23 May 2004 14:20:52 -0700, Richard Hall <rhall@blarg.net>
    >wrote:
    >
    >>Thanks for the reply.
    >>
    >>Are you saying that a replaytv is _absolutely worthless_ without a
    >>subscription?
    >>
    >>I do use DVArchive but find Java to be less than good software, in my
    >>opinion. DVArchive has stopped working on my p4 and uninstalling and
    >>reinstalling both java and DVArchive has failed to fix the problem.
    >>(XPPro)
    >>
    >
    >When I tried DVArchive on ME, it barely worked (worked once, then
    >never again until OS reinstalled).
    >
    >It's working better now on Win2000. It works to transfer shows to PC.
    >I also use it as a guide server (view guide and schedule shows from
    >any networked PC). It has never been recognized by one of the Replays.
    >
    >>Personally, I think Java is pure junk. Is it trying to be an operating
    >>system? A program?
    >>
    >
    >Maybe something like the BASIC "interpreter" on the old home
    >computers. Needed to run programs.
    >
    >I'd rather have a program that runs directly on Windows.
    >
    >>I have a virgin win98 SE install that runs DVArchive but refuses to
    >>play shows. I can import them and then copy the mpeg to my p4 and play
    >>it there but it needs to transfer the entire file before play starts.
    >>
    >
    >I use mine to put shows on DVD-R, as well as for the guide.
    >
    >>My laptop (XPPro) will run DVArchive well but I only have a 40 gig
    >>drive there. It's not a good solution.
    >>
    >
    >I refuse to use XP (considering that built-in self-destruct device).
    >Anyway, you can store the shows on a networked drive.
    >
    >>All I want is to be able to stream video from the replaytv without
    >>waiting for the entire show to be copied.
    >>
    >>A properly functioning DVArchive might do the trick.
    >>
    >>On Sun, 23 May 2004 19:29:39 GMT, "BruceR" <brNOSPAM@hawaii.com>
    >>wrote:
    >>
    >>>You'll need to activate the unit to continue using it. It would be nice
    >>>if they offered a remote non recording unit but they don't. However,
    >>>using DVArchive you can use that old PC in the closet to do the same
    >>>thing.
    >>>
    >>>From:Richard Hall
    >>>rhall@SPAMblarg.net
    >>>
    >>>> I want to add a second replaytv to my network. This won't be needed to
    >>>> record except occasionally from the analog inputs.
    >>>>
    >>>> I want to use the second replay to stream recorded shows to another
    >>>> room.
    >>>>
    >>>> I've searched all the message headers here and find no reference to
    >>>> this, probably often-asked, question. Please tell me I won't need a
    >>>> second subscription.... Now, please tell me the truth.
    >>>>
    >>>> Thanks,
    >>>> Dick
    >>>
  6. Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.replaytv (More info?)

    rhall@blarg.net shaped the electrons to say:
    >Are you saying that a replaytv is _absolutely worthless_ without a
    >subscription?

    Yep - current ReplayTV units (and *most* current TiVo units) are
    pretty much doorstops without a subscription - lifetime or monthly.

    >Personally, I think Java is pure junk. Is it trying to be an operating
    >system? A program?

    I've never really had a problem with Java - as both a programmer and a
    user. Java isn't an OS, nothing like it. I don't understand how
    anyone could even think it was trying to be one. Just because it is a
    'virtual machine'? Java is a solid platform - it had way too much
    hype when it came out, and it isn't the end all and be all of
    programming languages, but it has a role. MS thinks it is good enough
    to copy - see C#, which is very Java like.

    Java prevents the most common mistakes that bite C/C++ programmers,
    with the added benefit of being cross-platform.

    -MZ, RHCE #806199299900541, ex-CISSP #3762
    --
    <URL:mailto:megazoneatmegazone.org> Gweep, Discordian, Author, Engineer, me.
    "A little nonsense now and then, is relished by the wisest men" 508-755-4098
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  7. Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.replaytv (More info?)

    Mark Lloyd <mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx> shaped the electrons to say:
    >I'd rather have a program that runs directly on Windows.

    What is 'directly'?

    Java has the JVM. C# has the CLI (Common Language Interpreter, not
    Command Line Interface). VB uses an engine that runs on top of the
    OS, but is generally hidden from the user. A lot of Windows
    applications use DLLs to handle things, and the DLLs sit 'between' the
    app and the OS in some cases.

    -MZ, RHCE #806199299900541, ex-CISSP #3762
    --
    <URL:mailto:megazoneatmegazone.org> Gweep, Discordian, Author, Engineer, me.
    "A little nonsense now and then, is relished by the wisest men" 508-755-4098
    <URL:http://www.megazone.org/> <URL:http://www.eyrie-productions.com/> Eris
  8. Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.replaytv (More info?)

    On Sun, 23 May 2004 22:04:32 -0700, Richard Hall <rhall@blarg.net> wrote:

    > I still don't like Java. I have java & DVArchive running on three
    > different computers and all three will lock up randomly. I maintain
    > that java and dvarchive are not as solid as win me was.
    >
    > And I thought microsoft was the winner in the
    > almost-good-enough-software contest.
    >
    >
    >


    You forget that Java runs on top of Windows, and Microsoft and Sun don't
    like each other.


    --
    Bob in CT
    Remove ".x" to reply
  9. Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.replaytv (More info?)

    On 24 May 2004 03:38:11 GMT, newsREMOVE@THISmegazone.org (MegaZone)
    wrote:

    >Mark Lloyd <mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx> shaped the electrons to say:
    >>I'd rather have a program that runs directly on Windows.
    >
    >What is 'directly'?
    >

    Sorry, poor choice of word. I mean it runs on the CPU. Java programs
    don't, but are interpreted.

    >Java has the JVM. C# has the CLI (Common Language Interpreter, not
    >Command Line Interface). VB uses an engine that runs on top of the
    >OS, but is generally hidden from the user. A lot of Windows
    >applications use DLLs to handle things, and the DLLs sit 'between' the
    >app and the OS in some cases.
    >
    >-MZ, RHCE #806199299900541, ex-CISSP #3762

    --
    Mark Lloyd
    http://go.to/notstupid
    http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

    "It is a curious thing that every creed promises a
    paradise which will be absolutely uninhabitable for
    anyone of civilized taste." -- Evelyn Waugh
  10. Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.replaytv (More info?)

    On Sun, 23 May 2004 22:04:32 -0700, Richard Hall <rhall@blarg.net>
    wrote:

    >I still don't like Java. I have java & DVArchive running on three
    >different computers and all three will lock up randomly. I maintain
    >that java and dvarchive are not as solid as win me was.
    >

    Of course it's not going to be as stable. There's more there to mess
    up. Extra complexity (the Java too) does this.

    It does seem to run longer on Win2000 (there's also that thing about
    making more memory available to a Java program.

    At least on Win2000, when it does crash it doesn't crash the whole
    system like it does with Win 9x.

    >And I thought microsoft was the winner in the
    >almost-good-enough-software contest.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >On Sun, 23 May 2004 21:44:58 -0500, Mark Lloyd
    ><mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx> wrote:
    >
    >>On Sun, 23 May 2004 14:20:52 -0700, Richard Hall <rhall@blarg.net>
    >>wrote:
    >>
    >>>Thanks for the reply.
    >>>
    >>>Are you saying that a replaytv is _absolutely worthless_ without a
    >>>subscription?
    >>>
    >>>I do use DVArchive but find Java to be less than good software, in my
    >>>opinion. DVArchive has stopped working on my p4 and uninstalling and
    >>>reinstalling both java and DVArchive has failed to fix the problem.
    >>>(XPPro)
    >>>
    >>
    >>When I tried DVArchive on ME, it barely worked (worked once, then
    >>never again until OS reinstalled).
    >>
    >>It's working better now on Win2000. It works to transfer shows to PC.
    >>I also use it as a guide server (view guide and schedule shows from
    >>any networked PC). It has never been recognized by one of the Replays.
    >>
    >>>Personally, I think Java is pure junk. Is it trying to be an operating
    >>>system? A program?
    >>>
    >>
    >>Maybe something like the BASIC "interpreter" on the old home
    >>computers. Needed to run programs.
    >>
    >>I'd rather have a program that runs directly on Windows.
    >>
    >>>I have a virgin win98 SE install that runs DVArchive but refuses to
    >>>play shows. I can import them and then copy the mpeg to my p4 and play
    >>>it there but it needs to transfer the entire file before play starts.
    >>>
    >>
    >>I use mine to put shows on DVD-R, as well as for the guide.
    >>
    >>>My laptop (XPPro) will run DVArchive well but I only have a 40 gig
    >>>drive there. It's not a good solution.
    >>>
    >>
    >>I refuse to use XP (considering that built-in self-destruct device).
    >>Anyway, you can store the shows on a networked drive.
    >>
    >>>All I want is to be able to stream video from the replaytv without
    >>>waiting for the entire show to be copied.
    >>>
    >>>A properly functioning DVArchive might do the trick.
    >>>
    >>>On Sun, 23 May 2004 19:29:39 GMT, "BruceR" <brNOSPAM@hawaii.com>
    >>>wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>You'll need to activate the unit to continue using it. It would be nice
    >>>>if they offered a remote non recording unit but they don't. However,
    >>>>using DVArchive you can use that old PC in the closet to do the same
    >>>>thing.
    >>>>
    >>>>From:Richard Hall
    >>>>rhall@SPAMblarg.net
    >>>>
    >>>>> I want to add a second replaytv to my network. This won't be needed to
    >>>>> record except occasionally from the analog inputs.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I want to use the second replay to stream recorded shows to another
    >>>>> room.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I've searched all the message headers here and find no reference to
    >>>>> this, probably often-asked, question. Please tell me I won't need a
    >>>>> second subscription.... Now, please tell me the truth.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Thanks,
    >>>>> Dick
    >>>>

    --
    Mark Lloyd
    http://go.to/notstupid
    http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

    "It is a curious thing that every creed promises a
    paradise which will be absolutely uninhabitable for
    anyone of civilized taste." -- Evelyn Waugh
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