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Is CompactFlash going to be around?

Forum Laptops & Notebooks : General Discussion Is CompactFlash going to be around?

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Is there an adaptor to get SD to work with CF?

Which one will disappear first?

PCMCIA is already dead, isn't it?

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Sorry, this isn't a crystal ball. It's a newsgroup.

But in response to the "PCMCIA is already dead" question, I'd say no. How
many laptops are still being sold with PCMCIA compared to how many have CF
slots? How many have just PCMCIA vs just CF? CF is good for slow, small
devices. But have you seen and 10/100 network card for CF? Have you seen a
802.11g CF card? Until they come out with a new revision, I doubt it will
seriously threaten PCMCIA. CF and SD kick ass when it comes to very small
devices like cameras, phones, PDA's. But the space that a PCMCIA card takes
up isn't a problem on most laptops. You need a certain amount of space for
the keyboard, mouse, DVD player, so there's enough spare room to tuck the
card reader.

My $0.02CAD

Clint

"Al Smith" <ecarecar@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Is there an adaptor to get SD to work with CF?
>
> Which one will disappear first?
>
> PCMCIA is already dead, isn't it?
>
>

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Al Smith wrote:
>
> Is there an adaptor to get SD to work with CF?

Yes, more than one.

>
> Which one will disappear first?

SD or CF? Hard to say. CF has a large installed base, but the media
conglomerates like SD better. If I were to guess, I'd say SD will go
first.

>
> PCMCIA is already dead, isn't it?

PCMCIA is dead, long live cardbus.

Lisa

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I'll revise my answer to replace the word PCMCIA with "cardbus". :) To me,
they're still one and the same.

Clint

"Clint" <noone@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
news:mdkEc.905091$Pk3.215780@pd7tw1no...
> Sorry, this isn't a crystal ball. It's a newsgroup.
>
> But in response to the "PCMCIA is already dead" question, I'd say no. How
> many laptops are still being sold with PCMCIA compared to how many have CF
> slots? How many have just PCMCIA vs just CF? CF is good for slow, small
> devices. But have you seen and 10/100 network card for CF? Have you seen
a
> 802.11g CF card? Until they come out with a new revision, I doubt it will
> seriously threaten PCMCIA. CF and SD kick ass when it comes to very small
> devices like cameras, phones, PDA's. But the space that a PCMCIA card
takes
> up isn't a problem on most laptops. You need a certain amount of space
for
> the keyboard, mouse, DVD player, so there's enough spare room to tuck the
> card reader.
>
> My $0.02CAD
>
> Clint
>
> "Al Smith" <ecarecar@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:10e37bhopmadpa5@corp.supernews.com...
> > Is there an adaptor to get SD to work with CF?
> >
> > Which one will disappear first?
> >
> > PCMCIA is already dead, isn't it?
> >
> >
>
>

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CF will not disappear. Microdrives are "CF" format, and they are VERY
popular for HIGH-END digital cameras and MP3 players (the Muvo 2 and
mini-iPod use CF format micro-drives). I'd actually say that because of
capacity, CF is still growing in popularity. You can get 2 gig CF cards
(flash memory) or 4 gig microdrives. The tops on the other formats is
still 512 or 1 gig.

Lisa Horton wrote:

>
> Al Smith wrote:
>
>>Is there an adaptor to get SD to work with CF?
>
>
> Yes, more than one.
>
>
>>Which one will disappear first?
>
>
> SD or CF? Hard to say. CF has a large installed base, but the media
> conglomerates like SD better. If I were to guess, I'd say SD will go
> first.
>
>
>>PCMCIA is already dead, isn't it?
>
>
> PCMCIA is dead, long live cardbus.
>
> Lisa

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The correct term is neither cardbus nor PCMCIA (which should NEVER be
used). The correct term is "PC Card", of which Cardbus is a subset.
But all PC Card slots support both 8-bit and 16-bit PC Cards,
corresponding, approximately, to ISA cards and PCI cards (Cardbus is
another name for the 16-bit card type).


Clint wrote:

> I'll revise my answer to replace the word PCMCIA with "cardbus". :) To me,
> they're still one and the same.
>
> Clint
>
> "Clint" <noone@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
> news:mdkEc.905091$Pk3.215780@pd7tw1no...
>
>>Sorry, this isn't a crystal ball. It's a newsgroup.
>>
>>But in response to the "PCMCIA is already dead" question, I'd say no. How
>>many laptops are still being sold with PCMCIA compared to how many have CF
>>slots? How many have just PCMCIA vs just CF? CF is good for slow, small
>>devices. But have you seen and 10/100 network card for CF? Have you seen
>
> a
>
>>802.11g CF card? Until they come out with a new revision, I doubt it will
>>seriously threaten PCMCIA. CF and SD kick ass when it comes to very small
>>devices like cameras, phones, PDA's. But the space that a PCMCIA card
>
> takes
>
>>up isn't a problem on most laptops. You need a certain amount of space
>
> for
>
>>the keyboard, mouse, DVD player, so there's enough spare room to tuck the
>>card reader.
>>
>>My $0.02CAD
>>
>>Clint
>>
>>"Al Smith" <ecarecar@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:10e37bhopmadpa5@corp.supernews.com...
>>
>>>Is there an adaptor to get SD to work with CF?
>>>
>>>Which one will disappear first?
>>>
>>>PCMCIA is already dead, isn't it?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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Barry Watzman <WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> writes:
> The correct term is neither cardbus nor PCMCIA (which should NEVER be
> used). The correct term is "PC Card", of which Cardbus is a
> subset. But all PC Card slots support both 8-bit and 16-bit PC Cards,
> corresponding, approximately, to ISA cards and PCI cards (Cardbus is
> another name for the 16-bit card type).

Are you sure it's 8 and 16, rather than 16 and 32? ISA is 16 bits and
PCI is 32 bits. And I thought the-interface-formerly-known-as-PCMCIA
was 16 bits and mapped onto ISA.

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Barry Watzman wrote:
>
> Lisa Horton wrote:
>
> >
> > Al Smith wrote:
> >
> >>Is there an adaptor to get SD to work with CF?
> >
> >
> > Yes, more than one.
> >
> >
> >>Which one will disappear first?
> >
> >
> > SD or CF? Hard to say. CF has a large installed base, but the media
> > conglomerates like SD better. If I were to guess, I'd say SD will go
> > first.
> >
> >
> >>PCMCIA is already dead, isn't it?
> >
> >
> > PCMCIA is dead, long live cardbus.
> >

> CF will not disappear. Microdrives are "CF" format, and they are VERY
> popular for HIGH-END digital cameras and MP3 players (the Muvo 2 and
> mini-iPod use CF format micro-drives). I'd actually say that because of
> capacity, CF is still growing in popularity. You can get 2 gig CF cards
> (flash memory) or 4 gig microdrives. The tops on the other formats is
> still 512 or 1 gig.
>

I fervently hope that you're correct Barry. Not only does CF continue
to be the highest capacity of the common flash cards, but it's also the
cheapest per Mb, sometimes by far. And I think we're already above 4gig
for CF, with much larger cards and drives in the pipeline.

Lisa

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"Lisa Horton" <Lisanews0509@lisahorton.net> wrote in message
news:40E1D16C.CE79527F@lisahorton.net...
|
|
| Al Smith wrote:
| >
| > Is there an adaptor to get SD to work with CF?
|
| Yes, more than one.
|
| >
| > Which one will disappear first?
|
| SD or CF? Hard to say. CF has a large installed base, but the media
| conglomerates like SD better. If I were to guess, I'd say SD will go
| first.

SD. More people are going for Cf and MMC (and RSMMC <<but RSMMCs might go
obsolete a la smartmedia too)

|
| >
| > PCMCIA is already dead, isn't it?
|
| PCMCIA is dead, long live cardbus.
|
| Lisa

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Barry Watzman <WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote
> CF will not disappear.
> You can get 2 gig CF cards (flash memory) or 4 gig
> microdrives. The tops on the other formats is still
> 512 or 1 gig.

You can get 4GB and 8GB CF cards.
http://www.google.com/search?q=8gb+compactflash

eCost has the cheaper 4GB cards:
http://tinyurl.com/26cqh

Sandisk
4GB COMPACTFLASH CARD
$827.47

Ritek
4GB 52x CompactFlash Card
$777.27


Digitalfilm sells the 8GB Lexar:
http://tinyurl.com/2vkuc

CF Pro Series 40x WA - 8GB
Price: $5,499.99 Buy Now!



-Chris

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