yeah it is old. what's goin on is some guy wants 30 bottom of the barrel computers just to get his employees online, wholle bunch of old n outdated parts everywhere n me n my friend have to put em together for him for dirt cheap. anyways yes i did try antec and nothin. Matter of fact it took me an hour just to figure out who made it cuz theres nothin identifying on it cept some p/n's and while investigating those I mostly just discovered alot of people who don't know what this thing is or where toget a manual, havin the same probs as me. eh well thanx anywho.