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December 7, 2009 7:28:43 PM

I'm a behind-the-curve gamer/developer. I need a new machine for as little as possible, but with a future-safe board. I borrowed ideas from the System Builder Marathon, September 2009.

Essentially, I don't want to buy a new motherboard for the next few years. I don't plan on playing anything "new", but I'd just love it if I could play Source-based games (L4D2, TF:2) and Fallout3.

I created a NewEgg wishlist here:
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx...

Did I completely overlook something? Also, aside from TigerDirect, NewEgg, and MWave, I don't know of other online stores that might have better deals. Suggestions?

Ans here's the suggested text:


APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Christmas/New Years.
BUDGET RANGE: < $700, before MIRs. Instant Rebates okay.

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: gaming, web development, graphic design. [Gaming is the most intensive thing I will be doing].

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS. [They'll get their own budget].

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: None. Willing to take suggestions. Already have accounts with NewEgg, TigerD.

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: United States of America.

PARTS PREFERENCES:
** Mobo should have at least 1 FireWire port (easy).
** AM3 socket and DDR3 memory for future-safe upgrade headroom. Yes, I'd like to go with AMD.
** I have no allegiance to either nvidia or ATI, although the currently selected mobo is built for ATI. Suggestions otherwise are welcome!

OVERCLOCKING: Never have, but if it's in the budget, why not?

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: I'd rather stick with single cards, as I'm only casually a gamer. But I'd like board with headroom, for the future. What do *you* think?

MONITOR RESOLUTION: I'm thinking a high 16:9 would be best. I currently run dual squares. Honestly, it's whatever the games are doing now-days (and by now-days I mean, like, last year. psh).

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS:
Loudness is not a problem for me. If the case is sturdy and costs less, I'd rather have that. However, I don't want to endanger the contents of the case by getting anything *too* flimsy. If the only downside to a cheaper part is NOISE, bring the noise!
December 7, 2009 7:31:25 PM

tcg said:
I'm a behind-the-curve gamer/developer. I need a new machine for as little as possible, but with a future-safe board. I borrowed ideas from the System Builder Marathon, September 2009.

Essentially, I don't want to buy a new motherboard for the next few years. I don't plan on playing anything "new", but I'd just love it if I could play Source-based games (L4D2, TF:2) and Fallout3.

I created a NewEgg wishlist here:
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx...

Did I completely overlook something? Also, aside from TigerDirect, NewEgg, and MWave, I don't know of other online stores that might have better deals. Suggestions?

Ans here's the suggested text:


APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Christmas/New Years.
BUDGET RANGE: < $700, before MIRs. Instant Rebates okay.

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: gaming, web development, graphic design. [Gaming is the most intensive thing I will be doing].

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS. [They'll get their own budget].

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: None. Willing to take suggestions. Already have accounts with NewEgg, TigerD.

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: United States of America.

PARTS PREFERENCES:
** Mobo should have at least 1 FireWire port (easy).
** AM3 socket and DDR3 memory for future-safe upgrade headroom. Yes, I'd like to go with AMD.
** I have no allegiance to either nvidia or ATI, although the currently selected mobo is built for ATI. Suggestions otherwise are welcome!

OVERCLOCKING: Never have, but if it's in the budget, why not?

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: I'd rather stick with single cards, as I'm only casually a gamer. But I'd like board with headroom, for the future. What do *you* think?

MONITOR RESOLUTION: I'm thinking a high 16:9 would be best. I currently run dual squares. Honestly, it's whatever the games are doing now-days (and by now-days I mean, like, last year. psh).

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS:
Loudness is not a problem for me. If the case is sturdy and costs less, I'd rather have that. However, I don't want to endanger the contents of the case by getting anything *too* flimsy. If the only downside to a cheaper part is NOISE, bring the noise!


Try this:

AMD Athlon II X4 620 Propus 2.6GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$99 -Freeshipping


Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$55


GIGABYTE GA-MA770T-UD3P AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$70 -After rebate


A-DATA 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333G (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model AX3U1333GB2G8-AG - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$89


SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$55 -Freeshipping


SAPPHIRE 100283-2L Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$165 -Freeshipping


OCZ Fatal1ty OCZ550FTY 550W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$45 -After rebates


LITE-ON Black 18X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model iHDS118-04 - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$20 -Freeshipping


Total = $599 -After rebates
December 7, 2009 7:34:01 PM

tcg said:
I'm a behind-the-curve gamer/developer. I need a new machine for as little as possible, but with a future-safe board. I borrowed ideas from the System Builder Marathon, September 2009.

Essentially, I don't want to buy a new motherboard for the next few years. I don't plan on playing anything "new", but I'd just love it if I could play Source-based games (L4D2, TF:2) and Fallout3.

I created a NewEgg wishlist here:
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx...

Did I completely overlook something? Also, aside from TigerDirect, NewEgg, and MWave, I don't know of other online stores that might have better deals. Suggestions?

Ans here's the suggested text:


APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Christmas/New Years.
BUDGET RANGE: < $700, before MIRs. Instant Rebates okay.

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: gaming, web development, graphic design. [Gaming is the most intensive thing I will be doing].

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS. [They'll get their own budget].

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: None. Willing to take suggestions. Already have accounts with NewEgg, TigerD.

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: United States of America.

PARTS PREFERENCES:
** Mobo should have at least 1 FireWire port (easy).
** AM3 socket and DDR3 memory for future-safe upgrade headroom. Yes, I'd like to go with AMD.
** I have no allegiance to either nvidia or ATI, although the currently selected mobo is built for ATI. Suggestions otherwise are welcome!

OVERCLOCKING: Never have, but if it's in the budget, why not?

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: I'd rather stick with single cards, as I'm only casually a gamer. But I'd like board with headroom, for the future. What do *you* think?

MONITOR RESOLUTION: I'm thinking a high 16:9 would be best. I currently run dual squares. Honestly, it's whatever the games are doing now-days (and by now-days I mean, like, last year. psh).

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS:
Loudness is not a problem for me. If the case is sturdy and costs less, I'd rather have that. However, I don't want to endanger the contents of the case by getting anything *too* flimsy. If the only downside to a cheaper part is NOISE, bring the noise!


Your mobo is waaay overpriced.

Your cpu is to weak for your budget.

Your gpu is also to weak for your budget.

Your hdd is to slow, the Spinpoint f3 is much faster.

But everything else is pretty good. Nice choice for the psu. :) 
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December 7, 2009 10:28:36 PM

I will disagree with Moth about the GPU. Its a low budget and a 3GHz dual core is a decent CPU for that purpose. The only other CPU at that price range is the AthlonIIx3 2.7GHz, which would also be a good choice.

That motherboard is designed to hold 4 graphics cards. You really should drop back to a cheaper motherboard that is designed for two. Like this gigabyte.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The 4830 doesnt qualify as a gaming card. You did not give us a monitor resolution, you gave an aspect ratio. Resolution would be 1024x768 at the low end to 1920x1200 at the upper end. The Nvidia GT250, ATI 4850 and 5750 are the low end of gaming cards you would want to consider if you want to play on a modern widescreen LCD (1680x1050 to 1920x1200 resolutions).

For $5 more the Samsung f3 500GB is faster and larger.
December 7, 2009 10:34:02 PM

dndhatcher said:
I will disagree with Moth about the GPU. Its a low budget and a 3GHz dual core is a decent CPU for that purpose. The only other CPU at that price range is the AthlonIIx3 2.7GHz, which would also be a good choice.

The 4830 doesnt qualify as a gaming card. You did not give us a monitor resolution, you gave an aspect ratio. Resolution would be 1024x768 at the low end to 1920x1200 at the upper end. The Nvidia GT250, ATI 4850 and 5750 are the low end of gaming cards you would want to consider if you want to play on a modern widescreen LCD (1680x1050 to 1920x1200 resolutions).

For $5 more the Samsung f3 500GB is faster and larger.


Yea but look at the build I posted. For less money than his original build he can get a more powerful machine. Its all about getting more bang for your buck in this economy.

Oh and $600 is more than enough. I can configure a build for about $400 that can play modern games at medium/high settings. :) 

And he said he is a software developer. The quad and 4gb of ddr3 ram will come in handy when running advanced multi-threaded software.
December 7, 2009 10:46:34 PM

I thought your budget said $600, heres the new setup:

Try this:

Core i5 750 Processor Boxed
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...
$150

Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$55

GIGABYTE GA-P55A-UD3 LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?http://www.n...
$135

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL8D-4GBRM - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$92 -Freeshipping

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$55 -Freeshipping

SAPPHIRE 100283-2L Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$165 -Freeshipping

OCZ Fatal1ty OCZ550FTY 550W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$45 -After rebates

Total = $698 -After rebates
December 7, 2009 10:51:44 PM

@Moth:
I prefer your build, obviously. Just disagreeing that the 3GHz dual is a bad CPU choice.

The things I would change about your build is I think you went too cheap on the motherboard and didnt get a second PCIEx16 slot for crossfire. I would sacrifice CPU cores for that ability, especially with a quad 2.6 vs a 3GHz dual.

I also would get the antec 300 illusion so you get the front fans (I know its not in stock right now.)
December 7, 2009 10:58:06 PM

dndhatcher said:
@Moth:
I prefer your build, obviously. Just disagreeing that the 3GHz dual is a bad CPU choice.

The things I would change about your build is I think you went too cheap on the motherboard and didnt get a second PCIEx16 slot for crossfire. I would sacrifice CPU cores for that ability, especially with a quad 2.6 vs a 3GHz dual.

I also would get the antec 300 illusion so you get the front fans (I know its not in stock right now.)


Sorry, I thought you didn't like the build! :p 

Why would he want crossfire? He even said specifically he didn't want to fiddle with it. Crossfire just can't be justified: pay more for a mobo, psu, case, a cpu that won't bottleneck the dual gpus, and your two old cards will be inevitably eclipsed by a single card solution in the future.
December 7, 2009 11:02:39 PM

dndhatcher said:
@Moth:
I prefer your build, obviously. Just disagreeing that the 3GHz dual is a bad CPU choice.

The things I would change about your build is I think you went too cheap on the motherboard and didnt get a second PCIEx16 slot for crossfire. I would sacrifice CPU cores for that ability, especially with a quad 2.6 vs a 3GHz dual.

I also would get the antec 300 illusion so you get the front fans (I know its not in stock right now.)


I do have a configuration that supports crossfire, its based on the $699 build that I posted earlier, but its $735.
December 7, 2009 11:20:03 PM

I see you posted two - I only looked at the first one with the GA-MA770T-UD3P
December 7, 2009 11:22:30 PM

dndhatcher said:
I see you posted two - I only looked at the first one with the GA-MA770T-UD3P


Its always good to post multiple builds, that way the person asking for advice can see their different options.
December 8, 2009 2:56:17 AM

EDIT: Corrected the referenced price, and here's a link to the article I was originally referencing: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-phenom-radeon,2...

Sorry I've been away while you guys were doing all the hard work for me. =)

If you're still following, I'll try to clarify some stuff -

I said in the original post "Essentially, I don't want to buy a new motherboard for the next few years."

My goal here is to get something "modern and dirt-cheap" that I can upgrade all the way up over the next few years. As-in, if the mobo can handle 12Gigs of RAM, I'd like to eventually hit that cap. I will be putting the biggest, fastest AM3 processor available (eventually). If, within the next year or so, SLI/CrossFire become mandatory for new games, I'd like to have that option. (I'm hoping this doesn't happen, but I wouldn't be surprised.

Also, I picked that particular board because it was listed for the $1,250 Gaming rig, and was AMD/AM3 - and since I was able to configure something right near $700, I didn't have a good reason to choose another - it seemed pretty impressive for the price.

As far as listing an aspect ratio and not a resolution - I wasn't clear enough. Since I don't have anything that can run modern games, I have no idea what the common high-end resolutions are. Are games being designed now to run in a 16:9 (or close) ratio, since widescreen is so popular? Are they still mostly square? I dunno.

Initially, I'll probably get a 22-inch widescreen monitor. I know the specs and native resolutions on those might vary, but that's all I can say at the moment - I'm a bit behind as far as graphics-card knowledge goes.

The only games I'll want to be able to play, with maxed out settings, are all around the 2005-2006 era - so I'm easy to please for now ... just want room to upgrade, in pieces, over the next year or so.

Thanks so much for all the suggestions, and being so helpful to me. I really appreciate it!
December 8, 2009 3:05:18 AM

Definitely ditch the high end 790FX - you are best off with squeezing the best GPU your budget allows so +1 on Giga 770T-UD3P
December 8, 2009 3:09:40 AM

tcg said:
EDIT: Corrected the referenced price, and here's a link to the article I was originally referencing: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-phenom-radeon,2...

Sorry I've been away while you guys were doing all the hard work for me. =)

If you're still following, I'll try to clarify some stuff -

I said in the original post "Essentially, I don't want to buy a new motherboard for the next few years."

My goal here is to get something "modern and dirt-cheap" that I can upgrade all the way up over the next few years. As-in, if the mobo can handle 12Gigs of RAM, I'd like to eventually hit that cap. I will be putting the biggest, fastest AM3 processor available (eventually). If, within the next year or so, SLI/CrossFire become mandatory for new games, I'd like to have that option. (I'm hoping this doesn't happen, but I wouldn't be surprised.

Also, I picked that particular board because it was listed for the $1,250 Gaming rig, and was AMD/AM3 - and since I was able to configure something right near $700, I didn't have a good reason to choose another - it seemed pretty impressive for the price.

As far as listing an aspect ratio and not a resolution - I wasn't clear enough. Since I don't have anything that can run modern games, I have no idea what the common high-end resolutions are. Are games being designed now to run in a 16:9 (or close) ratio, since widescreen is so popular? Are they still mostly square? I dunno.

Initially, I'll probably get a 22-inch widescreen monitor. I know the specs and native resolutions on those might vary, but that's all I can say at the moment - I'm a bit behind as far as graphics-card knowledge goes.

The only games I'll want to be able to play, with maxed out settings, are all around the 2005-2006 era - so I'm easy to please for now ... just want room to upgrade, in pieces, over the next year or so.

Thanks so much for all the suggestions, and being so helpful to me. I really appreciate it!


So you want a machine that will last for several years and be ready for crossfire if you want it. Well AMD is going to continue supporting the AM3 socket for several more years so yeah AMD is a good choice. I'm working on a AMD build that supports crosssfire for $700 so hang tight, it may take me a bit. :) 

Average games are at the 1400 to 1600 resoulution. And the 5770 does 1660 great! And it supports dx11, uses little energy, is very quiet, and great for crossfire, so its a pretty good gpu.

Your welcome! I'm glad you appreciate our help! :D 
December 8, 2009 3:10:40 AM

batuchka said:
Definitely ditch the high end 790FX - you are best off with squeezing the best GPU your budget allows so +1 on Giga 770T-UD3P


Just like I said. ;) 
December 8, 2009 3:22:33 AM

Here it is folks. This is the ultimate AMD rig out there. It supports crossfire, overclocked cpu, has the 5770 which sips energy and generates little heat making this gpu good for crossfire, and in general this build uses great parts for a low price.

Update: New correct mobo, cheaper 5770, better ram

Try this:

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB
L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$166

Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$55

ASUS M4A79XTD EVO AM3 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$110 -After rebates

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL7D-4GBRH - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$100 -Freeshipping

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s
3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$55 -Freeshipping

SAPPHIRE 100283-2L Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$165

OCZ Fatal1ty OCZ700FTY 700W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready
80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$50 -After rebates, freeshipping

Sunbeam CR-CCTF 120 mm Core-Contact Freezer CPU Cooler W/TX-2 - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$25 -After rebates, Freeshipping

Total = $726 -After rebates
December 8, 2009 1:45:18 PM

MothMusic said:
Here it is folks. This is the ultimate AMD rig out there. It supports crossfire, overclocked cpu, has the reference design 5770 which is good for crossfire, and in general uses great parts for a low price.

Try this:

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB
L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$166

Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$55

ASUS M4A785TD-V EVO AM3 AMD 785G HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$100 -Freeshipping

A-DATA 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333G (PC3 10666) Desktop
Memory Model AX3U1333GB2G8-AG - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$89

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s
3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$55 -Freeshipping

XFX HD-577A-ZNFC Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI
Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$180 -Freeshipping

OCZ Fatal1ty OCZ700FTY 700W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready
80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$50 -After rebates, freeshipping

Sunbeam CR-CCTF 120 mm Core-Contact Freezer CPU Cooler W/TX-2 - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$25 -After rebates, Freeshipping

Total = $720 -After rebates



@Moth I have a question about that motherboard: NewEgg Specs show the PCIe 2.0 description as "2 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (blue @ x16 mode,gray @ x4 mode)". I understand some boards run 2 16's in x8 mode when SLI/CrossFire'd, but can you point me in the direction of enlightenment as to what this particular description is 'describing'? Does that mean they both cut down to x4 mode? Isn't that bad?
December 8, 2009 2:35:39 PM

You are right. You do not want to use that motherboard for Crossfire. Here is a very nice CPU + motherboard combo that will work great for your needs. The motherboard runs the GPU's at 8x speed in Crossfire.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $265.98 - $10 MIR (Phenom II X4 955 + Asus M4A79XTD EVO combo)

I would go with a cheaper 5770 and spend the extra money on this CAS 7 RAM kit that runs at 1.5v.

SAPPHIRE 100283-2L Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - Retail $164.99

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL7D-4GBRH - Retail $99.99
December 8, 2009 3:39:04 PM

shortstuff_mt said:
You are right. You do not want to use that motherboard for Crossfire. Here is a very nice CPU + motherboard combo that will work great for your needs. The motherboard runs the GPU's at 8x speed in Crossfire.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $265.98 - $10 MIR (Phenom II X4 955 + Asus M4A79XTD EVO combo)

I would go with a cheaper 5770 and spend the extra money on this CAS 7 RAM kit that runs at 1.5v.

SAPPHIRE 100283-2L Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - Retail $164.99

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL7D-4GBRH - Retail $99.99



@shortstuff_mt: Thanks for the tip. Just because it makes me nervous: the NewEgg site adds the following to the title/description of the RAM you suggest: "Dual Channel Intel Core i5 & Core i7 CPU for P55 motherboard".

My understanding is that this RAM should also work fine in an AMD motherboard. Am I correct, and is that extra description just for promotion, or is there a chance that the RAM won't be properly compatible if I go AMD?

Thanks!
December 8, 2009 3:58:15 PM

The RAM will work just fine with an AMD system. The only reason it mentions compatibility with the i5/i7 chips is because it runs under the 1.65v limit of those chips. I understand your worry, but it will work fine. It's great RAM.
December 8, 2009 9:29:40 PM

shortstuff_mt said:
You are right. You do not want to use that motherboard for Crossfire. Here is a very nice CPU + motherboard combo that will work great for your needs. The motherboard runs the GPU's at 8x speed in Crossfire.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $265.98 - $10 MIR (Phenom II X4 955 + Asus M4A79XTD EVO combo)

I would go with a cheaper 5770 and spend the extra money on this CAS 7 RAM kit that runs at 1.5v.

SAPPHIRE 100283-2L Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - Retail $164.99

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL7D-4GBRH - Retail $99.99



I'll update the build with the new mobo.

But really? Get a nosier gpu, for a some faster ram? Ram speed doesn't make any significant difference you know.
December 8, 2009 9:33:48 PM

MothMusic said:
But really? Get a nosier gpu, for a some faster ram? Ram speed doesn't make any significant difference you know.

Read the latest article (out today). Most games its less than 2%, but one game getting 1600 ram gave about an 8% speed increase. Must be a RAM intensive game. Lower voltage, higher speed and tighter timings give you more options when overclocking.
December 8, 2009 9:36:38 PM

dndhatcher said:
Read the latest article (out today). Most games its less than 2%, but one game getting 1600 ram gave about an 8% speed increase. Must be a RAM intensive game. Lower voltage, higher speed and tighter timings give you more options when overclocking.


Interesting. Do you have a link to the article? I've never heard anyone say that before, but if its that good, then I'll take your word for it a put it in the build, Thanks! :) 
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