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December 9, 2009 1:44:49 AM

Hi, I'm looking to build a gaming computer for my brother for as close to $400 as possible, taking into consideration that there comes a point where you go so low in price that it's just not worth it. I'll try and provide as much detail as I can, below:

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: This weekend

BUDGET RANGE: $400, including instant rebates but not including any mail-in rebates (I have had little luck in collecting them)

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: gaming primarily, although he is a drummer in a band and would like to do some stuff on his computer with that. Recording maybe, or modifying some of his music? I have no clue what that would entail as I am ignorant regarding all things musical. He is the artistic one - me, I listen to Elvis Presley sometimes but I almost never listen to music even on long trips.

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: I have a keyboard, mouse, DVD burner, hard drive, and an OS (Windows 7 courtesy of the family pack)

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: I have always used NewEgg, but I'm open to another site if there's one better

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: USA

PARTS PREFERENCES: Doesn't matter

OVERCLOCKING: No

MONITOR RESOLUTION: He has a 17 inch 1440x900 monitor (it's the eMachines E17T6W model which has an analog VGA input - will that be a problem?)

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: He's in his mid 40s, but we're both long-time gamers. We used to play Doom on my computers at work after hours. He's into FPS for the most part, and has a ton of older games he's loves (like Quake, Doom, some old crappy Star Trek games, old Star Wars games, X-Wing vs. TIE Fighter, etc.). I'd really like for him to be able to play some newer games, like Modern Warfare and Modern Warfare 2 even if the settings aren't that high, and I'd like for him to be able to play Flight Simulator 2004 or X.

I have a 320gb HD, a DVD burner, keyboard and mouse. He has the crappy 17" E17T6W VGA eMachines monitor (1440x900). Here's what I was looking at for other parts but I am sure there are combo deals and whatnot that I haven't found that could make things cheaper without sinking to the lowest of quality:

Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - $54.95
GIGABYTE GA-MA770T-UD3P AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - $79.99
Antec earthwatts EA500 500W Continuous Power - $69.99
AMD Athlon II X3 425 Rana 2.7GHz 3 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Processor - $76.99
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) - $89.99

Video card: I was looking at a 4850, but NewEgg is sold out. I saw this for $144.99
XFX HD-575X-ZNFC Radeon HD 5750 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0
but I was really hoping to save some money here. Maybe if I spent $150 bucks here it would make up for the shortcomings in the other areas? Or should I be looking at an nvidia card in the $115 price range instead of the 4850?

(I get the feeling I'm missing a component - it's that feeling one gets when one leaves the house and has to check that pants are being worn)

What I came up with costs $522 so I'm not too good at this. We're not rich, but he's fallen on worse times than me and so doesn't have the cash for the fun stuff. if I can swing it I'd like to hook him up. I need to buy him a couple of games, too. You guys helped me out with a build for my son awhile back, and I was new to the forums. I didn't understand the "pick the best answer" concept until I was reading through this time around, so I apologize for that. I won't miss that this time.

Thanks for your help.

-Dacker
December 9, 2009 2:08:44 AM

Dacker said:
Hi, I'm looking to build a gaming computer for my brother for as close to $400 as possible, taking into consideration that there comes a point where you go so low in price that it's just not worth it. I'll try and provide as much detail as I can, below:

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: This weekend

BUDGET RANGE: $400, including instant rebates but not including any mail-in rebates (I have had little luck in collecting them)

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: gaming primarily, although he is a drummer in a band and would like to do some stuff on his computer with that. Recording maybe, or modifying some of his music? I have no clue what that would entail as I am ignorant regarding all things musical. He is the artistic one - me, I listen to Elvis Presley sometimes but I almost never listen to music even on long trips.

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: I have a keyboard, mouse, DVD burner, hard drive, and an OS (Windows 7 courtesy of the family pack)

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: I have always used NewEgg, but I'm open to another site if there's one better

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: USA

PARTS PREFERENCES: Doesn't matter

OVERCLOCKING: No

MONITOR RESOLUTION: He has a 17 inch 1440x900 monitor (it's the eMachines E17T6W model which has an analog VGA input - will that be a problem?)

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: He's in his mid 40s, but we're both long-time gamers. We used to play Doom on my computers at work after hours. He's into FPS for the most part, and has a ton of older games he's loves (like Quake, Doom, some old crappy Star Trek games, old Star Wars games, X-Wing vs. TIE Fighter, etc.). I'd really like for him to be able to play some newer games, like Modern Warfare and Modern Warfare 2 even if the settings aren't that high, and I'd like for him to be able to play Flight Simulator 2004 or X.

I have a 320gb HD, a DVD burner, keyboard and mouse. He has the crappy 17" E17T6W VGA eMachines monitor (1440x900). Here's what I was looking at for other parts but I am sure there are combo deals and whatnot that I haven't found that could make things cheaper without sinking to the lowest of quality:

Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - $54.95
GIGABYTE GA-MA770T-UD3P AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - $79.99
Antec earthwatts EA500 500W Continuous Power - $69.99
AMD Athlon II X3 425 Rana 2.7GHz 3 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Processor - $76.99
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) - $89.99

Video card: I was looking at a 4850, but NewEgg is sold out. I saw this for $144.99
XFX HD-575X-ZNFC Radeon HD 5750 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0
but I was really hoping to save some money here. Maybe if I spent $150 bucks here it would make up for the shortcomings in the other areas? Or should I be looking at an nvidia card in the $115 price range instead of the 4850?

(I get the feeling I'm missing a component - it's that feeling one gets when one leaves the house and has to check that pants are being worn)

What I came up with costs $522 so I'm not too good at this. We're not rich, but he's fallen on worse times than me and so doesn't have the cash for the fun stuff. if I can swing it I'd like to hook him up. I need to buy him a couple of games, too. You guys helped me out with a build for my son awhile back, and I was new to the forums. I didn't understand the "pick the best answer" concept until I was reading through this time around, so I apologize for that. I won't miss that this time.

Thanks for your help.

-Dacker


AMD Athlon II X3 425 Rana 2.7GHz 3 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$77

MSI GF615M-P33 AM3 NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$57

APEX TX-381-C Black Steel Micro ATX Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$25

A-DATA 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333G (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model AX3U1333GB2G8-AG - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$89

Palit NE3TS25NFHD52 GeForce GTS 250 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$110 -Freeshipping

OCZ Fatal1ty OCZ550FTY 550W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$45 -After rebates

Total = $403 -After rebates, its just one rebate..
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December 9, 2009 3:16:55 AM

^ Above is a good setup...

but with some components can be improved on...
Mobo - Get any of these instead...would just add about $5-6 more but worth it...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

A suggestion about the CASE + PSU
Check this one
Antec 200 + Antec ECO 520W 80+ Certified, for nearly the same price(not including reabtes)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Graphics card -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM with Free shipping -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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December 9, 2009 3:22:28 AM

gkay09 said:
^ Above is a good setup...

but with some components can be improved on...
Mobo - Get any of these instead...would just add about $5-6 more but worth it...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

A suggestion about the CASE + PSU
Check this one
Antec 200 + Antec ECO 520W 80+ Certified, for nearly the same price(not including reabtes)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Graphics card -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM with Free shipping -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Thanks for the compliment!

But no fair! :kaola:  He said $400, you can always get more powerful stuff by saying: "Its only a few more dollars..." :p 

Oh and the 4770 is weaker than the GTX 250, Batcchuka told me so, even showed a chart.

And one of your gpu links is just a mobo..
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December 9, 2009 3:27:51 AM

^ :p  Well as for the mobo, I would rather get the 770 over that 6150 as the 770 has better support and is newer...So 5-6 bucks for that is not at all an unnecessary buy...
And HD 4770 is slower but also consumes far less power...For light gaming, am sure you wont notice much difference between those...
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December 9, 2009 3:34:10 AM

gkay09 said:
^ :p  Well as for the mobo, I would rather get the 770 over that 6150 as the 770 has better support and is newer...So 5-6 bucks for that is not at all an unnecessary buy...
And HD 4770 is slower but also consumes far less power...For light gaming, am sure you wont notice much difference between those...


I agree with the mobo, but I take budgets very seriously, so thats why I went with MSi.

The 4770 is a solid card, but when I tried a similar argument with Batchuka, he said what you do for these budget builds is go for the performance first, and don't waste budget on building "Castles in the sky." You know, spending cash on things other than gpu/cpu/ram.

But in a way I used the same argument you used for the mobo, get a cheap board and spend the extra $5-$10 on gpu, you just did it the other way around. :)  Weird huh?
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December 9, 2009 4:09:05 AM

^ :p  I feel investing in a better base(Mobo) is better as graphic cards can always be replaced easily when you have the money...
But when the budget is very tight, and if it is for gaming, even I would spend more on the graphics than any other part ;) 
And also I had just suggested only the mobo...others are all just options for the OP...
And as for the graphics card, I would put it this ways - Get the one that is cheaper...as nearly the HD 4850, GTS 250 perform similar and the HD 4770 lags only in certain places...
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December 9, 2009 4:14:28 AM

gkay09 said:
^ :p  I feel investing in a better base(Mobo) is better as graphic cards can always be replaced easily when you have the money...
But when the budget is very tight, and if it is for gaming, even I would spend more on the graphics than any other part ;) 
And also I had just suggested only the mobo...others are all just options for the OP...
And as for the graphics card, I would put it this ways - Get the one that is cheaper...as nearly the HD 4850, GTS 250 perform similar and the HD 4770 lags only in certain places...


WHAT!? I tried this exact same, specific argument with Batchucka and not only did he disagree, but the guy asking for advice went with his build!

Batchucka even said himself once that its better to get a cheap gpu to play the games that you want today and upgrade later, than to have a weak machine that can't support anything in the future. Yet he still disagreed with me despite him saying that! You should have backed me up man!! :lol: 
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December 9, 2009 4:37:51 AM

^ Lolz...
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December 9, 2009 3:55:20 PM

I remember that other argument (Batuchka was right). Gkay09 is here though. The mobo you spec'd only has 1000HT. It just isn't current.
Since most of the games are older, to make budget I might suggest going with a 790GX mobo and skip the GPU for now. The integrated HD3300 IGP is actually capable of gaming, especially at only 1440x900. Then, when budget allows, you can see how much of an improvement you want before deciding on a graphics card.
The other place not to be cheap is the PSU, and the Antec gkay09 linked should also be a decent choice.
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December 9, 2009 4:05:07 PM

Here is the cheapest COMPLETE (less OS) system I would build today:

Rosewill R222-P-BK Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Model #:R222-P-BK
Item #:N82E16811147095
$29.99 $29.99

ASRock M3A785GMH/128M AM3 AMD 785G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Model #:M3A785GMH/128M
Item #:N82E16813157168
$84.99 -$5.00 Instant $79.99

Antec EarthWatts Green EA-380D Green 380W Continuous power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power ... - Retail
Model #:EA-380D Green
Item #:N82E16817371033
$59.99 -$10.00 Instant $49.99

AMD Athlon II X2 250 Regor 3.0GHz Socket AM3 65W Dual-Core Processor Model ADX250OCGQBOX - Retail
Model #:ADX250OCGQBOX
Item #:N82E16819103681
$67.99 $67.99

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL8D-4GBRM - Retail
Model #:F3-10666CL8D-4GBRM
Item #:N82E16820231275
$91.99 $91.99

Western Digital Caviar Blue WD3200AAKS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Model #:WD3200AAKS
Item #:N82E16822136074
$49.99 $49.99

Sony Optiarc 24X DVD/CD Rewritable Drive Black SATA Model AD-7240S-0B - OEM
Model #:AD-7240S-0B
Item #:N82E16827118030

$31.99 $31.99
Total: $401.93

...but, you already have the drives, which saves $82. With that money, buy a HD4670, and possibly upgrade the CPU a little too.

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December 9, 2009 5:17:16 PM

Have you thought about going with the Athlon II x4 620 instead and maybe saving on the RAM?
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December 9, 2009 6:46:48 PM

Onus said:
Here is the cheapest COMPLETE (less OS) system I would build today:

Rosewill R222-P-BK Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Model #:R222-P-BK
Item #:N82E16811147095
$29.99 $29.99

ASRock M3A785GMH/128M AM3 AMD 785G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Model #:M3A785GMH/128M
Item #:N82E16813157168
$84.99 -$5.00 Instant $79.99

Antec EarthWatts Green EA-380D Green 380W Continuous power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power ... - Retail
Model #:EA-380D Green
Item #:N82E16817371033
$59.99 -$10.00 Instant $49.99

AMD Athlon II X2 250 Regor 3.0GHz Socket AM3 65W Dual-Core Processor Model ADX250OCGQBOX - Retail
Model #:ADX250OCGQBOX
Item #:N82E16819103681
$67.99 $67.99

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL8D-4GBRM - Retail
Model #:F3-10666CL8D-4GBRM
Item #:N82E16820231275
$91.99 $91.99

Western Digital Caviar Blue WD3200AAKS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Model #:WD3200AAKS
Item #:N82E16822136074
$49.99 $49.99

Sony Optiarc 24X DVD/CD Rewritable Drive Black SATA Model AD-7240S-0B - OEM
Model #:AD-7240S-0B
Item #:N82E16827118030

$31.99 $31.99
Total: $401.93

...but, you already have the drives, which saves $82. With that money, buy a HD4670, and possibly upgrade the CPU a little too.



AMD Athlon II X3 425 Rana 2.7GHz 3 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$77

ASRock M3A770DE AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$62

APEX TX-381-C Black Steel Micro ATX Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$25

A-DATA 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333G (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model AX3U1333GB2G8-AG - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$89

Palit NE3TS25NFHD52 GeForce GTS 250 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$110 -Freeshipping

Antec NEO ECO 400C 400W Continuous Power ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$60 -After rebates

Total = $423 -Its only $23 over budget, and here you get a very powerful gpu

The TS said he wants to play games, your build doesn't even include a gpu!


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December 9, 2009 6:53:58 PM

Onus said:
I remember that other argument (Batuchka was right). Gkay09 is here though. The mobo you spec'd only has 1000HT. It just isn't current.
Since most of the games are older, to make budget I might suggest going with a 790GX mobo and skip the GPU for now. The integrated HD3300 IGP is actually capable of gaming, especially at only 1440x900. Then, when budget allows, you can see how much of an improvement you want before deciding on a graphics card.
The other place not to be cheap is the PSU, and the Antec gkay09 linked should also be a decent choice.


Not fair. You just said that Batuchka was right, (get the most performance for budget builds, don't wasted on anything else), yet you just posted a build that wasted budget on stuff other than a cpu/gpu and had a weak psu a for gaming machine. In fact your $400 build didn't even have a gpu! My build did have a gpu and was still within budget. So your essentially using your using the castle in the sky argument in your build you just posted, yet you just said that Batuchka was right on performance over everything else. Hypocrite! :) 

Your post with the build in it completely contradicted your post above it agreeing with Batuchka. :kaola: 
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December 9, 2009 7:19:02 PM

Nope. The PSU in my build is sufficient; technically he could run a HD4850 on it. And, for the older games and/or lower settings the OP said he is willing to accept, the HD4200 IGP may be sufficient. If it isn't, my build allows room in the budget to get a HD4670, which absolutely will be sufficient (for 1440x900), and doesn't even need a power connector. You can pick one up for $65 now, which leaves enough money to bump the CPU from the X2 250 to a X3 425 and still make the budget, not go $23 over.
If he doesn't want to risk the HD4200 being enough, he can start with your mobo and my GPU, lowering the price another $17. I'd keep my case for the slightly better cooling it offers, and the PSU (as it is sufficient, and $10 less). I'd keep my RAM because it runs on lower voltage which means potentially better timings if pushed. The further $17 reduction may allow the GPU to be bumped up to a 9600GT, but only if you're willing to trust an off-brand like Zotac.

Edit: The point of all this is that it CAN be done. No, it won't play the latest games with max settings and high resolution, but it will play older games maxed at the OP's stated resolution, and newer ones with some lower settings.
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December 9, 2009 7:31:50 PM

Onus said:
Nope. The PSU in my build is sufficient; technically he could run a HD4850 on it. And, for the older games and/or lower settings the OP said he is willing to accept, the HD4200 IGP may be sufficient. If it isn't, my build allows room in the budget to get a HD4670, which absolutely will be sufficient (for 1440x900), and doesn't even need a power connector. You can pick one up for $65 now, which leaves enough money to bump the CPU from the X2 250 to a X3 425 and still make the budget, not go $23 over.
If he doesn't want to risk the HD4200 being enough, he can start with your mobo and my GPU, lowering the price another $17. I'd keep my case for the slightly better cooling it offers, and the PSU (as it is sufficient, and $10 less). I'd keep my RAM because it runs on lower voltage which means potentially better timings if pushed. The further $17 reduction may allow the GPU to be bumped up to a 9600GT, but only if you're willing to trust an off-brand like Zotac.


He probably only said he wants to play games at low settings because he wasn't sure what he could get on the budget. My build would let him play modern games at high settings for a low price, and thats awsome.

Ram isnt as important as cpu/gpu in budget gaming builds. But if this was $700 and up then yea I would agree.

True, if we took the best of our builds together, maybe he can a powerful machine at a lower price.

But no fair on your psu! :kaola:  He said he doesn't want rebates, so thats why I choose the psu I did!
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December 9, 2009 7:59:27 PM

My PSU has an Instant Rebate, not a mail-in one. I don't go for mail-in rebates either.
At 1440x900, a HD4670 will allow high (probably just no AA) settings on many fairly current games. On older games, an AMD IGP alone is probably enough; Guild Wars reaches 35-40FPS in most places with moderate settings on a HD3300, and that was using only a 4850e CPU (which bottlenecks a 4670 in that game).
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December 9, 2009 8:04:54 PM

Onus said:
My PSU has an Instant Rebate, not a mail-in one. I don't go for mail-in rebates either.
At 1440x900, a HD4670 will allow high (probably just no AA) settings on many fairly current games. On older games, an AMD IGP alone is probably enough; Guild Wars reaches 35-40FPS in most places with moderate settings on a HD3300, and that was using only a 4850e CPU (which bottlenecks a 4670 in that game).


Well I guess, but wouldn't a 9600 offer better performance for a similar price?
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December 9, 2009 9:12:12 PM

A 9600 is one tier higher than the HD4670. A Sapphire HD4670 is $65, and the cheapest 9600GT is $80. Using my build but your mobo, that would fit in the budget, but not leave enough to improve the CPU. I think I would rather have the 4670 with a X3 CPU, but then I do things besides games with my PC. Tough call.
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December 9, 2009 9:16:09 PM

Onus said:
A 9600 is one tier higher than the HD4670. A Sapphire HD4670 is $65, and the cheapest 9600GT is $80. Using my build but your mobo, that would fit in the budget, but not leave enough to improve the CPU. I think I would rather have the 4670 with a X3 CPU, but then I do things besides games with my PC. Tough call.



EVGA 01G-P3-N964-LR GeForce 9600 GSO 1GB 128-bit DDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$60 -After rebates, freeshippng
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December 9, 2009 9:51:51 PM

That one is $70 before a $10 MIR, and it is a GSO, not a GT, so it is on the same tier as the HD4670. Actually, that one has DDR2, so it may be even lower.
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December 9, 2009 10:04:23 PM


It took the best from jtt283's build and my own:

AMD Athlon II X3 425 Rana 2.7GHz 3 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$77

ASRock M3A770DE AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$62

APEX TX-381-C Black Steel Micro ATX Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$25

A-DATA 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333G (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model AX3U1333GB2G8-AG - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$89

SAPPHIRE 100295HDMI Radeon HD 4670 512MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$65

Antec EarthWatts Green EA-380D Green 380W Continuous power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$50

Total = $368
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December 9, 2009 10:16:08 PM

I didn't think it was possible, thanks so much for the help. That was a great thread to read through - I got to really see the thought that each of you put into it. I am going to go with the final build MothMusic put together but I know it was a joint effort.

Thanks again.

-Dacker
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December 9, 2009 10:22:04 PM

Dacker said:
I didn't think it was possible, thanks so much for the help. That was a great thread to read through - I got to really see the thought that each of you put into it. I am going to go with the final build MothMusic put together but I know it was a joint effort.

Thanks again.

-Dacker


Your welcome. I hope your brother enjoys his new PC! :) 
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December 9, 2009 10:27:44 PM

Since you are under budget, if you want to increase something, spend another $20 on the Antec Earthwatts 500W PSU. Then, if/when your brother upgrades his monitor, he will have the option of an even stronger GPU. The chart here: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5770,2446... shows the 380D would have no trouble with a 5770. It does not have the connectors for a 5850 though, even though it probably has enough juice for one.

Edit: Ah, nice. Have fun with the build, same to your brother.
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December 9, 2009 10:37:37 PM

Onus said:
Since you are under budget, if you want to increase something, spend another $20 on the Antec Earthwatts 500W PSU. Then, if/when your brother upgrades his monitor, he will have the option of an even stronger GPU. The chart here: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5770,2446... shows the 380D would have no trouble with a 5770. It does not have the connectors for a 5850 though, even though it probably has enough juice for one.

Edit: Ah, nice. Have fun with the build, same to your brother.



I am going to go with the 500W PSU. I can swing the extra $20.00. I still can't believe you guys came up with a build under $400.00 - thanks again.

-Dacker
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December 10, 2009 2:03:44 AM

@Moth that is a very good final setup...
But I dint like that case much...
How about this one for about $35 with Free Shipping ? The case that is linked, after including shipping may cost nearly the same but this case seems good...actually looks very good...
APEX Vortex 3620 SGCC
$39.99
Free Shipping*
$5 off w/ promo code EMCMNLW57, ends 12/14
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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December 10, 2009 2:06:50 AM

gkay09 said:
@Moth that is a very good final setup...
But I dint like that case much...
How about this one for about $35 with Free Shipping ? The case that is linked, after including shipping may cost nearly the same but this case seems good...actually looks very good...
APEX Vortex 3620 SGCC
$39.99
Free Shipping*
$5 off w/ promo code EMCMNLW57, ends 12/14
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Batchuka would say spend more on parts, not "Castles in the sky." Case aesthetics don't make video games run at high settings, and cost more money, breaking the budget. :) 
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December 10, 2009 2:30:29 AM

^ Lolz - If am not wrong the shipping of that case would come to $9.99...
So lets do the math -
$25 + $10(Shipping) = $35 -> Not a very good case.
$40 - $5(Discount) = $35 -> Far better case with better cooling.
So if one would be smarter, he would obviously choose the better one for the same price... ;) 
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December 10, 2009 2:34:37 AM

gkay09 said:
^ Lolz - If am not wrong the shipping of that case would come to $9.99...
So lets do the math -
$25 + $10(Shipping) = $35 -> Not a very good case.
$40 - $5(Discount) = $35 -> Far better case with better cooling.
So if one would be smarter, he would obviously choose the better one for the same price... ;) 


*sigh* You win this time. Hey Dacker if you want this case, go with it, no price difference.
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December 10, 2009 8:17:24 AM

lol, nice one.
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